[swinog] trillian & IRC

2007-10-14 Thread robert

Hi,

Anybody using trillian for irc? I've been having problems recently and  
therefore I haven't been in the swinog channel for a while ...


Any hints and tips are therefore very welcome ;-)

Cheers
Robert
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Re: [swinog] trillian & IRC

2007-10-14 Thread Will van Gulik
I guess my best advice would be to use something else than trillian, as 
irssi for *nix system ... I'm not too aware anymore of what still exists 
on  w32, I'd say mirc or xchat are still around ...


Good luck ;)

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Hi,

Anybody using trillian for irc? I've been having problems recently and 
therefore I haven't been in the swinog channel for a while ...


Any hints and tips are therefore very welcome ;-)

Cheers
Robert
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Re: [swinog] SwissIX goes 10Gig!

2007-10-14 Thread Pim van Pelt
On Sun, Oct 14, 2007 at 01:02:30AM +0200, Daniel G. Kluge wrote:
>> Can you send us a trace from your location and probably an ip-address
>> close to you we may ping/trace?
>>
>> Followup please to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Because this is of general interest, I'll keep swinog looped in;

When I try to reach www.swissix.ch from the internet, it seems that I do
make it into AS13030, hitting r9.ipv6.init7.net (2001:1620::9). But the
pollux.swissix.ch machine doesn't seem to have a route back to me (AS12859
for example).

I noticed that you are using an IXP prefix for your webserver.
Looking at SixXS' distributed looking glass[1], I see that still many
ISPs are not accepting this /48 into their routing tables (and in my
opinion, rightfully so). The IXP prefixes were not meant to host
services in, rather only to make sure switch fabric is using a globally
unique prefix (which comes in handy with stuff like DNS and ICMP
unreachables and the like). I think that RIPE NCC has mentioned something 
to that effect when 2001:7f8:24::/48 was allocated.

It might make more sense to host the webserver from a prefix that is
visible in the DFZ everywhere, but I don't think that's the problem
here. [1] shows that many people do not have a route for your /48

groet,
Pim

[1] 
http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/lg/?when=now&year=2007&month=10&day=14&hour=19&show=allpaths&format=html&report_grhwork=on&report_grhfail=on&findtype=prefix&find=2001%3A7f8%3A24%3A%3A%2F48

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Re: [swinog] SwissIX goes 10Gig!

2007-10-14 Thread Roman Hochuli
Hello Pim

>>> Followup please to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Because this is of general interest, I'll keep swinog looped in;
>
> But the pollux.swissix.ch machine doesn't seem to have a route back
> to me (AS12859 for example).

As I explained in another mail already we are probably hit by a
kernel-bug which is corrupting the ipv6 kernel-routingtable altough the
bgpd-routingtable has a correct view of the world. We are working on
this issue and will keep you posted.

> I noticed that you are using an IXP prefix for your webserver.

Yes, that's correct.

> Looking at SixXS' distributed looking glass[1], I see that still many
>  ISPs are not accepting this /48 into their routing tables (and in my
>  opinion, rightfully so). The IXP prefixes were not meant to host 
> services in, rather only to make sure switch fabric is using a
> globally unique prefix (which comes in handy with stuff like DNS and
> ICMP unreachables and the like). I think that RIPE NCC has mentioned
> something to that effect when 2001:7f8:24::/48 was allocated.

RIPE's policy to this topic is clear:
http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-256.html

--snip
4.0 Warning
Networks assigned under this policy may not be globally routable.
--snap

So, yes, you're right, there might be some networks that will not route
our ipv6-prefix. Thank you for pointing this out. OTOH we had, have and
most probably will operate some services for our members running in that
ip-space (also reachable via ipv4).

Running these services in another ip-space would afford some entity to
sponsor the service and hardware or housing while, at the moment, some
peers are generously sponsoring some upstream and we can take care of
the rest. Since the later option is a very short amount of work for the
sponsors I guess it will stay this way. I think the board maybe will
have to consider to stop running the services on IPv6 for the sake of
availability. OTOH I'd be interested to hear if any of our peers is
blocking our prefix since they are the main audience for our services...

-- 
Best regards,
Roman Hochuli
Operations Manager

nexellent ag
Saegereistrasse 29
CH-8152 Glattbrugg

Phone:   +41 44 562 30 40
Fax: +41 44 562 30 41
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Re: [swinog] SwissIX goes 10Gig!

2007-10-14 Thread Jeroen Massar
Roman Hochuli wrote:
[..]
> OTOH I'd be interested to hear if any of our peers is
> blocking our prefix since they are the main audience for our services...

According to http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/dfp/ripe/ :

2001:7f8:24::/48 SWISSIX-20031113 AS20612 72%

As such only 72% of the BGP peers of GRH actually have that prefix.
Then peek at http://www.sixxs.net/tools/grh/lg/?find=2001:7f8:24::/48
and you will find the active peers who are not seeing the prefix.

Of course, more ISP's are always welcome to donate their prefixes to the
system with the little cost of a EBGP connection to GRH, but as can be
seen above this allows one to very easily see what is going on and where.

Telia seems to be your only transit btw, you might want to checkup if
filters really allow the IX prefix out from their network.

Greets,
 Jeroen



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AW: [swinog] trillian & IRC

2007-10-14 Thread Michele Capobianco
Iam quite happy with Trillian and irc.
I just use it now and then. it works good, even with the Trillian Astra alpha

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Hi,

Anybody using trillian for irc? I've been having problems recently and
therefore I haven't been in the swinog channel for a while ...

Any hints and tips are therefore very welcome ;-)

Cheers
Robert
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