Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
Moin Roger Nothing special happened the last few days, everything worked as usual. irc.swinog.ch not reachable - you have any traceroute output? irc.subcult.ch also worked fine - for ident-issue, give identd a chance ;) For any questions ... /msg me in the ircnet now (you know my nick). Regards, Boris irc.swinog.ch is not reachable via bluewin irc.subcult.ch telling me after connect checking ident .. found your hostname .. and then stays like that whats happen ? Roger ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
Dear All irc.swinog.ch not reachable - you have any traceroute output? As a result of a DDoS against the SwissIX IP-Range the prefix of SwissIX is at the moment only reachable by its peers. We are working towards bringing the irc-server back online. But in the mean time eiher use another server of the mesh or have a SwissIX-connected ISP ;). -- Best regards, Roman Hochuli Operations Manager nexellent ag Saegereistrasse 29 CH-8152 Glattbrugg Phone: +41 44 562 30 40 Fax: +41 44 562 30 41 URL: www.nexellent.ch X-NCC-RegID: ch.nexellent Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality. -- Jules de Gaultier ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
PS: The actual list of all available servers is listed at: http://irc.subcult.ch As a result of a DDoS against the SwissIX IP-Range the prefix of SwissIX is at the moment only reachable by its peers. We are working towards bringing the irc-server back online. But in the mean time eiher use another server of the mesh or have a SwissIX-connected ISP ;). ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
why doesn't someone create a public Skype chat for SwiNOG? I think more people on this list have skype than IRC client software (me, for example :-) - Original Message From: Boris Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 3:51:20 PM Subject: Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ? PS: The actual list of all available servers is listed at: http://irc.subcult.ch As a result of a DDoS against the SwissIX IP-Range the prefix of SwissIX is at the moment only reachable by its peers. We are working towards bringing the irc-server back online. But in the mean time eiher use another server of the mesh or have a SwissIX-connected ISP ;). ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
why doesn't someone create a public Skype chat for SwiNOG? Will that work with my enter your chosen OS here? I think more people on this list have skype than IRC client software (me, for example :-) It's simple, it's vintage, it's reliable and clients are available for pretty much every known device. Or in other words: it's plain geeky. Reason enough? ;) -- Best regards, Roman Hochuli Operations Manager nexellent ag Saegereistrasse 29 CH-8152 Glattbrugg Phone: +41 44 562 30 40 Fax: +41 44 562 30 41 URL: www.nexellent.ch X-NCC-RegID: ch.nexellent Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality. -- Jules de Gaultier ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
installing a P2P phose client just for chatting ? IRC is basic, works very well even on very slow satelite link without causing congestion. And at least it doesnt depend on some thirdparty Services,the servers are under our control. Roger Am 6 Oct 2008 um 16:15 hat Roman Hochuli geschrieben: why doesn't someone create a public Skype chat for SwiNOG? Will that work with my enter your chosen OS here? I think more people on this list have skype than IRC client software (me, for example :-) It's simple, it's vintage, it's reliable and clients are available for pretty much every known device. Or in other words: it's plain geeky. Reason enough? ;) -- Best regards, Roman Hochuli Operations Manager nexellent ag Saegereistrasse 29 CH-8152 Glattbrugg Phone: +41 44 562 30 40 Fax: +41 44 562 30 41 URL: www.nexellent.ch X-NCC-RegID: ch.nexellent Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality. -- Jules de Gaultier ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
why doesn't someone create a public Skype chat for SwiNOG? Will that work with my enter your chosen OS here? well, almost :) http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/linux/ I think more people on this list have skype than IRC client software (me, for example :-) It's simple, it's vintage, it's reliable and clients are available for pretty much every known device. Or in other words: it's plain geeky. Reason enough? ;) almost anyone uses skype anyway, so why bother :) Roger IRC is basic, works very well even on very slow satelite link... show me a satellite link in Switzerland :-) ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
my grandmother in scheid is using one - its faster then the DSL there ;) costs around 40 Bucks / month :) astra2connect Stanislav Sinyagin schrieb: why doesn't someone create a public Skype chat for SwiNOG? Will that work with my enter your chosen OS here? well, almost :) http://www.skype.com/intl/en/download/skype/linux/ I think more people on this list have skype than IRC client software (me, for example :-) It's simple, it's vintage, it's reliable and clients are available for pretty much every known device. Or in other words: it's plain geeky. Reason enough? ;) almost anyone uses skype anyway, so why bother :) Roger IRC is basic, works very well even on very slow satelite link... show me a satellite link in Switzerland :-) ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
Hmm VoIP is very network sensitive and it would be useless in case of network troubles. I thinking about joining this Swinog IRC network, currently I'm on EFNET via irc.efnet.ch What are the right channels to join ? Regarding the stats of http://irc.subcult.ch looks to be more German channels than English ones. Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stanislav Sinyagin Sent: lundi, 6. octobre 2008 16:02 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ? why doesn't someone create a public Skype chat for SwiNOG? I think more people on this list have skype than IRC client software (me, for example :-) - Original Message From: Boris Meyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 6, 2008 3:51:20 PM Subject: Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ? PS: The actual list of all available servers is listed at: http://irc.subcult.ch As a result of a DDoS against the SwissIX IP-Range the prefix of SwissIX is at the moment only reachable by its peers. We are working towards bringing the irc-server back online. But in the mean time eiher use another server of the mesh or have a SwissIX-connected ISP ;). ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
I can never on monday :( so I vote for the beer events to be on another weekday once ;) and for a jabber room (there are a lot of jabber servers that could host one maintained by Swinog members) Silvan Marc Balmer schrieb: * Silvan Gebhardt wrote: I vote for a jabber chatroom ;) let's meet in a pub ;) [EMAIL PROTECTED] schrieb: installing a P2P phose client just for chatting ? IRC is basic, works very well even on very slow satelite link without causing congestion. And at least it doesnt depend on some thirdparty Services,the servers are under our control. Roger Am 6 Oct 2008 um 16:15 hat Roman Hochuli geschrieben: why doesn't someone create a public Skype chat for SwiNOG? Will that work with my enter your chosen OS here? I think more people on this list have skype than IRC client software (me, for example :-) It's simple, it's vintage, it's reliable and clients are available for pretty much every known device. Or in other words: it's plain geeky. Reason enough? ;) -- Best regards, Roman Hochuli Operations Manager nexellent ag Saegereistrasse 29 CH-8152 Glattbrugg Phone: +41 44 562 30 40 Fax: +41 44 562 30 41 URL: www.nexellent.ch X-NCC-RegID: ch.nexellent Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality. -- Jules de Gaultier ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
* on the Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 07:02:18AM -0700, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: why doesn't someone create a public Skype chat for SwiNOG? I think more people on this list have skype than IRC client software (me, for example :-) I don't. And I WON'T. I've done too much cmputer security, and now I've got a déformation professionelle. I won't use closed software for anything crucial like communication; something where I can't even run the server myself (or decide whose server I want to use). On the other hand, I've got an IRC-Server running too ;) And I'm available with Jabber, of course. Cheers Seegras -- Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin It's also true that those who would give up privacy for security are likely to end up with neither. -- Bruce Schneier ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
swissix stopped announcing the prefix because of this. i think you might join via irc.subcult.ch (which might have an interconnection with irc.swissix.ch). -steven -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Johannes Resch Sent: Monday, October 06, 2008 5:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ? Boris Meyer wrote: PS: The actual list of all available servers is listed at: http://irc.subcult.ch since this recent DDoS related change I cannot reach any of the listed IRC servers from hetzner.de space (AS24940, 78.46.0.0/15) anymore. would be great if somebody could fix this.. cheers, -jr As a result of a DDoS against the SwissIX IP-Range the prefix of SwissIX is at the moment only reachable by its peers. We are working towards bringing the irc-server back online. But in the mean time eiher use another server of the mesh or have a SwissIX-connected ISP ;). ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] Hot Red Flames (Was: IRC Server dead ?)
Peter Keel wrote: * on the Mon, Oct 06, 2008 at 07:02:18AM -0700, Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: why doesn't someone create a public Skype chat for SwiNOG? I think more people on this list have skype than IRC client software (me, for example :-) I don't. And I WON'T. I've done too much cmputer security, and now I've got a déformation professionelle. I won't use closed software for anything crucial like communication; You don't use Cisco's or Junipers? How do you use the Internet actually? Or for that matter, did you actually really get that BIOS source of your computer and that of the video card etc etc? And of course, with Open Source: did you check every single line of the source, and that of the compiler, and all the tools that that was made with etc etc etc? Ah, indeed you didn't, thus please don't claim that Open Source is more secure because you have the source, because it is impossible to check. something where I can't even run the server myself (or decide whose server I want to use). Some people like A, some people like B. Some people like irc.swinog.ch, some people like Undernet/IRCnet/EFnet/ whatever floats your boat. Greets, Jeroen signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
Salut, Roman, On Mon, 06 Oct 2008 16:15:47 +0200, Roman Hochuli wrote: It's simple, it's vintage, it's reliable and clients are available for pretty much every known device. Or in other words: it's plain geeky. Reason enough? ;) Nah. IRC is ubiquitous, that's it. If you want something geeky, there's ICB or SILC. Tonnerre signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?
it was about chat (plain text chat), not a conference call :-) - Original Message From: Tonnerre Lombard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2008 12:13:36 AM Subject: Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ? Salut, Stanislav, On Mon, 6 Oct 2008 07:02:18 -0700 (PDT), Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: why doesn't someone create a public Skype chat for SwiNOG? Why do you want to hear us snore? Tonnerre ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Hot Red Flames (Was: IRC Server dead ?)
Jeroen Massar wrote: And of course, with Open Source: did you check every single line of the source, and that of the compiler, and all the tools that that was made with etc etc etc? Ah, indeed you didn't, thus please don't claim that Open Source is more secure because you have the source, because it is impossible to check. The idea of open source is not so much that you get to check it yourself, but much more that it is open for hundreds of thousands of other people to check. If for instance the quality/security of a piece of code is proportional to the number of times it's been reviewed, then yes, open source is quite possibly more secure. /Per Jessen, Herrliberg ZH ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
