Re: [swinog] Init7 peering
Hey Arnold, Maybe reading, understanding and acting along http://www.denog.de/pdf/004-Tremmel-Attractive_for_Peering.pdf does help ;-) Some advices are good, other are senseless to me. By the way, that comes straight from DECIX people. Remind me that is DECIX? ;) That would be silly if they wouldn't try to sell their services undirectly in some ways... To me it sounds a but like would if it would be some brand of class clothes saying dress well to sign better contracts ads. Best regards, Arnold NB: nothing sneaky to catch from my reply ;) Cheers. Alex -- Alexandre Egger Neocarrier Communications LTD 311, SHOREHAM STREET S2 4FA SHEFFIELD United Kingdom E : a.eg...@neocarrier.com W : www.neocarrier.com ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Init7 peering
Alexandre Egger wrote: By the way, that comes straight from DECIX people. Remind me that is DECIX? ;) That would be silly if they wouldn't try to sell their services undirectly in some ways... To me it sounds a but like would if it would be some brand of class clothes saying dress well to sign better contracts ads. dress well to sign better contracts - it's not bad advice. /Per -- Per Jessen, Zürich (9.9°C) ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Init7 peering
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:42:32 +0100, Per Jessen per.jes...@enidan.ch wrote: dress well to sign better contracts - it's not bad advice. /Per Per, I agree. But I was using this as metaphor that obviously a very expensive brand will tell you to buy their clothes to do it better just as a brand of car would tell you their cars are betters than other and will get you further. You don't need to buy the most expensive clothes - that's what I meant. From them it cannot be considered as neutral opinion. Cheers. Alex -- Alexandre Egger Neocarrier Communications LTD 311, SHOREHAM STREET S2 4FA SHEFFIELD United Kingdom E : a.eg...@neocarrier.com W : www.neocarrier.com ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Init7 peering
On 22.11.2009 19:51 Alexandre Egger wrote On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 19:42:32 +0100, Per Jessen per.jes...@enidan.ch wrote: dress well to sign better contracts - it's not bad advice. /Per Per, I agree. But I was using this as metaphor that obviously a very expensive brand will tell you to buy their clothes to do it better just as a brand of car would tell you their cars are betters than other and will get you further. You don't need to buy the most expensive clothes - that's what I meant. From them it cannot be considered as neutral opinion. Iirc Wolfgang's presentation does not say that you you have to buy DE-CIX services, neither does it say that you have to peer with everyone. Doesn't it? Or did you only want to say that DE-CIX is expensive? Which is also not true. Arnold -- Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany email: arn...@nipper.de phone: +49 6224 9259 299 mobile: +49 172 2650958 fax: +49 6224 9259 333 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Init7 peering
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009 22:00:30 +0100, Arnold Nipper arn...@nipper.de wrote: I did reply to this just for fun and nothing else. Iirc Wolfgang's presentation does not say that you you have to buy DE-CIX services, neither does it say that you have to peer with everyone. Doesn't it? I am not saying anything of this kind. Probably I did not express myself accurately. My fault. Or did you only want to say that DE-CIX is expensive? Which is also not true. Arnold I am also not saying this. I do not want to comment their prices. Just keep in mind that it's a commercial company which aims at making money out of this business (at least with a honourable purpose). I will turn green for now and save cooling, bandwidth, diskspace and power and leave SwiNOGers rest for the weekend :-) Cheers. Alex -- Alexandre Egger Neocarrier Communications LTD 311, SHOREHAM STREET S2 4FA SHEFFIELD United Kingdom E : a.eg...@neocarrier.com W : www.neocarrier.com ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] Cablecom Issue: no route from Aorta.net Gateway in Holland to Level 3 in the US
I came back from the weekend on Sunday, and discovered that routing was down between Cablecom's Aorta.net and the Level3 network on which a provider of mine is located. As a Cablecom customer, I would have reported it directly to Cablecom, but they seem to have reorganized away any possibility of reporting technical problems. All I could find is a number that helps me configure my e-mail, and even that closes at 18:00 on Sunday. Hmmm. From our other provider, who use nexcellent, and get their connectivity via Level3 from Zürich, there was no connectivity problem. Local connectivity via Cablecom was also not a problem, just routing between Aorta.net Level3's network. Clearly a provider issue. Ultimately the problem was remedied, but I'd like to know, is there anyway of contacting Cablecom whereby the assumption is other than that the person reporting the problem is a clueless moron? I'd prefer not to have to wait until someone discovers this by happenstance. Charles Buckley ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
