Re: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE82 - 1st of February 2010 @ Outback / ZH
Enjoy Today.. Thomas -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Steven Glogger Gesendet: Montag, 25. Januar 2010 14:12 An: swi...@swinog.ch Betreff: [swinog] SwiNOG-BE82 - 1st of February 2010 @ Outback / ZH hi everybody here's the announcement for the next beer event. the facts for the next event: - Date: 1st of February 2010 Time: starting around 18.30 o'clock Location: @ the Outback Bahnhof Stadelhofen http://www.outback-lodge.ch/ Already registred: 1 Registration deadline: 30.01.2010 20:00:00 - Please register here: http://swinog.mrmouse.ch/ since we have to make reservations, i need to know who's coming and who not. If you cannot attend and you're registered please inform me asap (+41 79 277 92 35). greetings from barcelona -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Debian vs. Ubuntu
Hey guys, Thanks for all replys. As I see, every distribution has their own pros and cons. For me I'll stay atm on debian - maybe I'll do a mixture of debian and ubuntu - as stan said, in ubuntu are all pre-requisites done for torrus. :) At the end, every sysadmin need to know by himself, why he uses his own distri. ;) /Benj Am 31.01.10 22:13 schrieb Ihsan Dogan unter ih...@dogan.ch: I would say Solaris. Stable, well designed, full featured Unix with a stable API. Ihsan Am 30.01.10 21:51, schrieb Mehmet Akcin: I would say CentOS... ;) Stable, compatible and quick on patching critical stuff.. I have never trusted Ubuntu on my servers maybe its because of the great with desktops etc.. Never been a fan of debian.. On Jan 30, 2010, at 15:45, Peter Keel seeg...@discordia.ch wrote: * on the Sat, Jan 30, 2010 at 01:36:52PM +0100, Per Jessen wrote: AFAICT from that list, you'd be fine on openSUSE too. Still, nothing wrong with untar+config+make :-) Yes, very wrong. Maintainability goes trough the floor. Or are you sure not to miss a security-relevant update in an insignificant program like tar? Or any other program or library which might be a dependancy of the software you're compiling? And if you're compiling yourself, because the package in the distribution is too outdated, make packages, and name them after the same scheme as the distribution. That way your package might be upgraded automatically if the distribution ships a newer one. Cheers Seegras -- Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. -- Benjamin Franklin It's also true that those who would give up privacy for security are likely to end up with neither. -- Bruce Schneier ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] looking for Telco Rack 600*300
I'm looking for Telco rack which fits the space 600*300 (frame is ok, no doors required) - please contact me offlist, if you have a spare one in your storage. Would pay in beer ... IKEA has plenty ;-) http://wiki.eth-0.nl/index.php/LackRack - this will be the first time for me visiting IKEA! Damn good and handy idea. Thanks for the hint. Thomas ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] dirt cheap netbook at Mediamarkt
If it runs Snow Leopard, this would rock! Does anybody know? (I don't have much experience in running Mac OS on Atoms, so my question may be totally newbish ;) as far as I remember, atom support has been removed in last leopard updates. but someone made it to put it manually back... -steven ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Debian vs. Ubuntu
Am 28.01.2010 um 17:08 schrieb Mauro Calderara: Hi Thanks for the info. Just running normal ISP services like dhcp, dns, webserver and so on. Main focus is the long support, maybe I'll wait for 10.04 LTS - so I got support to the year 2015 :) If you are going to pick Ubuntu because of the more predictable and long-term support[1], make sure the packages you need are in the repository 'main' and not in 'universe'. If you have to use packages from universe, I'd be careful. They do not have official security support for the same time but are 'supported by the community'. I've seen very sad states of packages in Ubuntu 'universe', there were even known broken kernels released in 'universe'. 'Main' is generally very nice, though. I think this is the most important thing to consider. I have an LTS Version of Ubuntu something or other running (How does one get the version out of this thing, certainly not with uname(1)), actually it is 6.06.1 LTS aka dapper. Almost all of the things which I use on this box (Web, Mail, FTP Server) is not in main, but in universe, and might get updated and might not. Stuff like clamav, postfix, amavisd-new, pure-ftpd and loads of other goodies are in universe. On Debian all packages are officially supported equally good or bad by the security team, but generally for a shorter time. Long story short: If you can cover your needs with Ubuntu 'main', go for Ubuntu. If not, I'd rather use Debian. Definitively true, I ended up getting debian packages for clamav, patching them, and then compiling them, since there was no up-to-date clamav on Ubuntu. You can check in what repository a given package is by searching for it on http://packages.ubuntu.com Just my 5 cents I think you are selling your experience short. Cheers, -daniel (New year's resolution: update the ubuntu box and change its IP Addresses, if any spare time is to be found somewhere, update it to freebsd) ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Functional Tests - only Nagios?
There is another solution which is based on Nagios (Linux distribution): http://fannagioscd.sourceforge.net/ Nagios + Centreon + Nagvis + Nareto Cheers Luc Beat Siegenthaler a écrit : On 28.01.10 13:12, Luca Cappiello wrote: Nagios would be probably the best choice, but maybe there other concepts I'm not aware of. If You mention NAGIOS, you should look at http://www.icinga.org/ which is a fork of NAGIOS. Real Programmers are saying, that NAGIOS is a code nightmare and more or less a one man show of Ethan Galstad. I run NAGIOS myself for Years. Also for easier configuration of Nagios the Groundwork Stuff is Real (SCNR) http://www.groundworkopensource.com/ Beat ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
