Re: [swinog] Recommanded IOS Package for 7206VXR + NPE400 to do IPv6/BGP + AS Number 4-byte

2011-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Patrick Studer
Hi

@Manfredo/Daniele - Hmm..Already thought about perhaps switching to one of this 
routers. Is a 2921
really taking all (Full IPv4/IPv6 Features incl. all BGP, ASN 4-bytes) just 
with the regular IP Base = Part-No. CISCO2921/K9?
What can we expect as maximum traffic for this configuration?

@Andy/Michael - Would the SP not be sufficient. Or why should we use Advanced 
IP or Advanced Enterprise service?

@Kurt - What are the hardware specification of your setup for you Quagga? Is 
Quagga able to do HSRP or something
similar? How much bandwidth do you handle with that configuration?

@All, is enabling of IPv6 taking that much memory, so 512 MB with two full feed 
and some SwissIX peering would
be enough?

Thanks already for your pervious answers.

Kind Regards

Patrick

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Manfredo Miserocchi [mailto:m...@wari.net] 
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Juli 2011 07:34
An: Patrick Studer
Cc: 'swi...@swinog.ch'
Betreff: Re: [swinog] Recommanded IOS Package for 7206VXR + NPE400 to do 
IPv6/BGP + AS Number 4-byte


Patrick,

only one issue on RAM needed. NPE400 supports 512Mb, that's not enough for a 
full-view BGP. We better use 7301 or 2921 with 1Gb and 15.0 software.

Cheers
Manfredo

-Original Message-
From: Andy Davidson a...@nosignal.org
To: Patrick Studer p.stu...@x-netconsulting.ch
Cc: 'swi...@swinog.ch' swi...@swinog.ch
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:40:30 +0100
Subject: Re: [swinog] Recommanded IOS Package for 7206VXR + NPE400 to do 
IPv6/BGP + AS Number 4-byte

 
 On 11 Jul 2011, at 17:23, Patrick Studer wrote:
 
  We want to go a step further with our infrastructure and start 
  testing/implementing IPv6.
   
  Has anybody here a 7206VXR + NPE400 running and doing IPv6 / Full 
  BGP / 4-byte ASN? If yes, which IOS Version and Package do you have 
  installed. How much memory / flash do you have installed?
   
  We currently have “only” two upstreams and some SwissIX peering.
 
 Hey Patrick. :-)
 
 I was running some 7206 in my past job, although these had an NPE-G1 or 
 NPE-G2, with 1GB of RAM.
 
 You need Advanced IP Services or Advanced Enterprise services for v6 routing, 
 and Multiprotocol (i.e. v4 and v6) BGP.
 You need 12.4(24)T, or 12.2(33)SRE1 (or later, including all 15.0) for 4 byte 
 ASNs.
 
 So you should get away with, assuming your NPE has the storage and RAM 
 :  c7200-advipservicesk9-mz.12.2-33.SRE1 to SRE4, or 
 c7200-advipservicesk9-mz.124-24.T5.bin.
 
 And of course, we at as6939/he.net would like to help with your v6. 
 :-)
 
 Andy
 
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Re: [swinog] Recommanded IOS Package for 7206VXR + NPE400 to do IPv6/BGP + AS Number 4-byte

2011-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Mathias Seiler
Hi Patrick

I've seen 2921 doing 150 Mbit/s mixed HTTP traffic (without many services 
configured and with about 50% CPU load). And yes, with the new IOS version 15 
you can run full BGP and IPv6 BGP with the IP Base Feature Set. I can confirm 
this. Also OSPFv3 is working in IP Base.

Since this is a software router it depends very much what services you 
configure (rpf checks etc.). Also if you get DoSed the box won't last for long. 
But they're pretty powerful if you consider the price. You can get it with 1.5 
or 1 GBytes factory upgraded memory, 512 MB should work too, but IMHO not for 
long :)

If you want to go a step higher consider a pair of ASR1001, but the price gap 
from the 2921 or even 2951 is fairly large.


HTH
- Mathias

On 14 Jul 2011, at 16:52, Patrick Studer wrote:

 Hi
 
 @Manfredo/Daniele - Hmm..Already thought about perhaps switching to one of 
 this routers. Is a 2921
 really taking all (Full IPv4/IPv6 Features incl. all BGP, ASN 4-bytes) just 
 with the regular IP Base = Part-No. CISCO2921/K9?
 What can we expect as maximum traffic for this configuration?
 
 @Andy/Michael - Would the SP not be sufficient. Or why should we use Advanced 
 IP or Advanced Enterprise service?
 
 @Kurt - What are the hardware specification of your setup for you Quagga? Is 
 Quagga able to do HSRP or something
 similar? How much bandwidth do you handle with that configuration?
 
 @All, is enabling of IPv6 taking that much memory, so 512 MB with two full 
 feed and some SwissIX peering would
 be enough?
 
 Thanks already for your pervious answers.
 
 Kind Regards
 
 Patrick
 
 -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
 Von: Manfredo Miserocchi [mailto:m...@wari.net] 
 Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Juli 2011 07:34
 An: Patrick Studer
 Cc: 'swi...@swinog.ch'
 Betreff: Re: [swinog] Recommanded IOS Package for 7206VXR + NPE400 to do 
 IPv6/BGP + AS Number 4-byte
 
 
 Patrick,
 
 only one issue on RAM needed. NPE400 supports 512Mb, that's not enough for a 
 full-view BGP. We better use 7301 or 2921 with 1Gb and 15.0 software.
 
 Cheers
 Manfredo
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Andy Davidson a...@nosignal.org
 To: Patrick Studer p.stu...@x-netconsulting.ch
 Cc: 'swi...@swinog.ch' swi...@swinog.ch
 Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:40:30 +0100
 Subject: Re: [swinog] Recommanded IOS Package for 7206VXR + NPE400 to do 
 IPv6/BGP + AS Number 4-byte
 
 
 On 11 Jul 2011, at 17:23, Patrick Studer wrote:
 
 We want to go a step further with our infrastructure and start 
 testing/implementing IPv6.
 
 Has anybody here a 7206VXR + NPE400 running and doing IPv6 / Full 
 BGP / 4-byte ASN? If yes, which IOS Version and Package do you have 
 installed. How much memory / flash do you have installed?
 
 We currently have “only” two upstreams and some SwissIX peering.
 
 Hey Patrick. :-)
 
 I was running some 7206 in my past job, although these had an NPE-G1 or 
 NPE-G2, with 1GB of RAM.
 
 You need Advanced IP Services or Advanced Enterprise services for v6 
 routing, and Multiprotocol (i.e. v4 and v6) BGP.
 You need 12.4(24)T, or 12.2(33)SRE1 (or later, including all 15.0) for 4 
 byte ASNs.
 
 So you should get away with, assuming your NPE has the storage and RAM 
 :  c7200-advipservicesk9-mz.12.2-33.SRE1 to SRE4, or 
 c7200-advipservicesk9-mz.124-24.T5.bin.
 
 And of course, we at as6939/he.net would like to help with your v6. 
 :-)
 
 Andy
 
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Re: [swinog] Recommanded IOS Package for 7206VXR + NPE400 to do IPv6/BGP + AS Number 4-byte

2011-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Michael Theurl
Hy Patrick,

For a Service Provider or Carrier yes. The most importing stuff is in:
(BGP/OSPF/HSRP/VRRP/ASN4BYTE/IPV6/ACL/NETFLOW)

check out the feature list:
c7200-spservicesk9-mz.122-33.SRE3 -
http://tools.cisco.com/ITDIT/CFN/Dispatch

GET Memory usage BGP Process:
show processes memory | begin BGP Router
Get the holding row are in bytes 

So if you try to use 2 ipv4 full peerings you router maybe reload cause
of memory overflow. Or you optimize the routing tables maybe it holds,
One ipv4 full table and one or two ipv6 full tables, that should work
quite nicely.

But if you would make it professional you get a little newer system ;)

http://www.cisco.com/en/US/prod/collateral/routers/ps341/prod_end-of-life_notice0900aecd806b8c96.html


best regards

Michael



On Thu, 2011-07-14 at 16:52 +0200, Patrick Studer wrote:
 sufficient.



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Re: [swinog] Recommanded IOS Package for 7206VXR + NPE400 to do IPv6/BGP + AS Number 4-byte

2011-07-14 Diskussionsfäden Guazzoni Daniele, CH
We have 4 x 2921 as frontend BGP routers carring 100 Mbps average with full BGP 
table @ v4 / v6.
With 1 GB RAM and a lean straight configuration the CPU load is topping at 18%.

Regarding the memory for full-table BGP:
With 512 M in total you will run really short (depending how much is reserved 
for I/O, buffers, ...).
With 1G you still have plenty of space to be filled with v6 prefixes :-)

Daniele

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To: 'swi...@swinog.ch'
Subject: Re: [swinog] Recommanded IOS Package for 7206VXR + NPE400 to do 
IPv6/BGP + AS Number 4-byte

Hi

@Manfredo/Daniele - Hmm..Already thought about perhaps switching to one of this 
routers. Is a 2921 really taking all (Full IPv4/IPv6 Features incl. all BGP, 
ASN 4-bytes) just with the regular IP Base = Part-No. CISCO2921/K9?
What can we expect as maximum traffic for this configuration?

@Andy/Michael - Would the SP not be sufficient. Or why should we use Advanced 
IP or Advanced Enterprise service?

@Kurt - What are the hardware specification of your setup for you Quagga? Is 
Quagga able to do HSRP or something similar? How much bandwidth do you handle 
with that configuration?

@All, is enabling of IPv6 taking that much memory, so 512 MB with two full feed 
and some SwissIX peering would be enough?

Thanks already for your pervious answers.

Kind Regards

Patrick

-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: Manfredo Miserocchi [mailto:m...@wari.net]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 13. Juli 2011 07:34
An: Patrick Studer
Cc: 'swi...@swinog.ch'
Betreff: Re: [swinog] Recommanded IOS Package for 7206VXR + NPE400 to do 
IPv6/BGP + AS Number 4-byte


Patrick,

only one issue on RAM needed. NPE400 supports 512Mb, that's not enough for a 
full-view BGP. We better use 7301 or 2921 with 1Gb and 15.0 software.

Cheers
Manfredo

-Original Message-
From: Andy Davidson a...@nosignal.org
To: Patrick Studer p.stu...@x-netconsulting.ch
Cc: 'swi...@swinog.ch' swi...@swinog.ch
Date: Mon, 11 Jul 2011 20:40:30 +0100
Subject: Re: [swinog] Recommanded IOS Package for 7206VXR + NPE400 to do 
IPv6/BGP + AS Number 4-byte


 On 11 Jul 2011, at 17:23, Patrick Studer wrote:

  We want to go a step further with our infrastructure and start 
  testing/implementing IPv6.
 
  Has anybody here a 7206VXR + NPE400 running and doing IPv6 / Full
  BGP / 4-byte ASN? If yes, which IOS Version and Package do you have 
  installed. How much memory / flash do you have installed?
 
  We currently have “only” two upstreams and some SwissIX peering.

 Hey Patrick. :-)

 I was running some 7206 in my past job, although these had an NPE-G1 or 
 NPE-G2, with 1GB of RAM.

 You need Advanced IP Services or Advanced Enterprise services for v6 routing, 
 and Multiprotocol (i.e. v4 and v6) BGP.
 You need 12.4(24)T, or 12.2(33)SRE1 (or later, including all 15.0) for 4 byte 
 ASNs.

 So you should get away with, assuming your NPE has the storage and RAM
 :  c7200-advipservicesk9-mz.12.2-33.SRE1 to SRE4, or 
 c7200-advipservicesk9-mz.124-24.T5.bin.

 And of course, we at as6939/he.net would like to help with your v6.
 :-)

 Andy

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