[swinog] Re: Swisscom DNS issue: spectrum-conference.org wrongfully resolves to a bluewin address in swisscom mobile networks

2024-04-23 Diskussionsfäden Oliver Schad via swinog
On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 08:59:07 +0200
Gert Doering via swinog  wrote:

> On Tue, Apr 23, 2024 at 08:55:49AM +0200, Serge Droz via swinog wrote:
> > Yes, I understand the technical issues. And yes it's ugly.   
> > But do you have a better solution?  
> 
> Since this is not a "solution", just a new sort of problem, it doesn't
> even qualify for a comparison.

Even IF it would have a relevant impact on the spread of malware (and I
agree with you that it definitely CAN'T), triggering actions that you
CAN'T know the further consequences of is not a good idea.

And furthermore, breaking protocols is usually an approach to do as
much damage as you want. It is not technically intended for providers
to do this. There is no interface to indicate that you are bending DNS
for security reasons.

In the end, this is just another approach to justify interfering with
the network. Once the lever has been successfully applied because of
cybercrime or malware, this will be extended more and more politically.
All experience to date simply shows that.

The Russians are evil? So block the network. The Chinese are evil? So
network blocking. Wikileaks is evil? Network blocking. Because the
users are poor sheep that we have to protect from evil information. And
it's not the users who decide what information is evil.

Best Regards
Oli

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[swinog] Re: Swisscom DNS issue: spectrum-conference.org wrongfully resolves to a bluewin address in swisscom mobile networks

2024-04-23 Diskussionsfäden Oliver Schad via swinog
On Tue, 23 Apr 2024 08:51:41 +0200
Serge Droz via swinog  wrote:

> It's actually a pretty smart and light way of protection the majority
> of users from malware. And yes, there will always be false positives.

Do you plan to compensate financial losses through that behaviour, i.e.
you block a webshop, a bank, an insurance?

Do you plan to compensate health issues through that behaviour, i.e.
you block an important health service?

Do you plan to compensate social issues through that behaviour, i.e.
you block an important social service, maybe a forum for unstable
personalities, who rely on that platform? Maybe to avoid suicide?

Are you sure, that this mechanism is "smart"? Maybe protection against
malware is less important, than you think when you don't know the
consequences of your actions.

Best Regards
Oli

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