Re: [swinog] our zimbra webmail server is on the swisscom dns blacklist ...

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Hi Tobi

I've forwarded your mail to our abuse team.
They are now looking into this.

For (a possible) next time you can use this:
https://www.swisscom.ch/de/privatkunden/hilfe/internet/internetguard/formular.html

Cheers,
Günti

Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch  Im Auftrag 
von Tobias Oetiker
Gesendet: Freitag, 24. Juli 2020 08:40
An: swi...@swinog.ch
Betreff: [swinog] our zimbra webmail server is on the swisscom dns blacklist ...

Hi All

We are running a zimbra web mail server https://zimbox.ch for our customers. 
Yesterday afternoon swisscom has put its IP (46.140.183.201) on their DNS 
blacklist 
(https://www.swisscom.ch/de/res/hilfe/internet/internetguard/url-checker.html). 
Since the thing is running https, this leads to people with swisscom internet 
access to get some cryptic error message about SSL problems from their browser 
when they want to read their mail.

No, the server is not hacked, and we are running the latest version of zimbra 
web mail on it.

We have filled in the swisscoms 'de-blacklisting' web form but nothing has 
happened yet. We also called the swisscom kmu-hotline, but no, sorry we can not 
do anything.

Any advice ? For now we are advising our customers to set their dns server in 
their computers to 8.8.8.8 ...

By the light of day, swisscom is directly damaging our business with this ...

cheers
tobi (angry)
--
Tobi Oetiker, OETIKER+PARTNER AG, Aarweg 15 CH-4600 Olten, Switzerland
www.oetiker.ch t...@oetiker.ch 
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Re: [swinog] Swisscom RES to Cloudflare DNS - 20% packet drop

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Hi Mateusz,

Maybe you should try again.
Over my RES connection I reach 1.1.1.1 at SwissIX with 5-6ms

Cheers,
Günti

> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch  Im
> Auftrag von Mateusz Kowalski
> Gesendet: Sonntag, 19. Juli 2020 13:34
> An: swi...@swinog.ch
> Betreff: [swinog] Swisscom RES to Cloudflare DNS - 20% packet drop
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> Can someone confirm a similar issue with Cloudflare DNS from Swisscom
> residential network? What's interesting, from Swisscom SME I don't see
> that issue (both connections are in Zurich)... It started on 18th of July
> around 00h30 (CEST).
> 
>  >>> Cloudflare DNS from Swisscom RES
>   Host Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
>   1. _gateway 0.0%    31    1.1   5.7   0.4 158.3  28.3
>   2. 172.16.1.1 0.0%    31    1.2  12.9   0.7 255.0  49.4
>   3. 1.120.61.188.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch 0.0%    31    2.6
> 2.8   2.1   4.8   0.5
>   4. 10.140.42.24 0.0%    30    5.2   8.0   3.6  97.1  17.0
>   5. i79zhh-010-ae28.bb.ip-plus.net 0.0%    30    8.5   9.8   3.0  59.3
> 11.5
>   6. mira.ip-plus.net 0.0%    30    2.3   3.4   2.2  21.0   3.4
>   7. i68gem-005-ae2.bb.ip-plus.net
> 0.0%    30    6.3  12.3   5.7  65.7  12.6
>   8. i68cix-015-bun3.bb.ip-plus.net 0.0%    30    6.5   6.9   5.9
> 19.0   2.3
>   9. cixp-cloudflare.cern.ch 20.7%    30   17.5  20.8  17.5  41.5   6.8
> 10. one.one.one.one 3.3%    30   19.2  25.4  18.4  93.5  19.4
> 
>  >>> Cloudflare DNS from Swisscom SME
>   Host Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
>   1. _gateway 0.0%    21    0.3   0.3   0.2   0.4   0.0
>   2. 73.61.253.84.static.wline.lns.sme.cust.swisscom.ch 0.0%    20
> 0.6   0.6   0.4   1.2   0.2
>   3. 213.3.210.195 0.0%    20    3.8   3.7   3.5   3.9   0.1
>   4. ???
>   5. i62bsw-005-bun14.bb.ip-plus.net 0.0%    20    3.8   7.0   3.7
> 37.5   8.2
>   6. i68gem-005-ae1.bb.ip-plus.net
> 0.0%    20    5.3   6.9   4.6  42.0   8.3
>   7. i68cix-015-bun3.bb.ip-plus.net 0.0%    20    4.8   5.0   4.7
> 5.5   0.2
>   8. cixp-cloudflare.cern.ch 0.0%    20    5.6  10.0   5.4  42.3   9.3
>   9. one.one.one.one 0.0%    20    4.8   4.8   4.7   5.5   0.2
> 
>  >>> Google DNS from Swisscom RES
>   Host Loss%   Snt   Last   Avg  Best  Wrst StDev
>   1. _gateway 0.0%    21    0.5   0.7   0.5   3.2   0.6
>   2. 172.16.1.1 0.0%    21    1.2   1.4   0.5   6.2   1.1
>   3. 1.120.61.188.dynamic.wline.res.cust.swisscom.ch 0.0%    21    2.5
> 3.0   2.2   7.7   1.2
>   4. 10.140.42.28 0.0%    20    4.5   4.6   3.7   8.2   0.9
>   5. i79zhh-010-ae28.bb.ip-plus.net 0.0%    20    5.6   8.1   2.6
> 23.0   5.2
>   6. mira.ip-plus.net 0.0%    20    2.9   3.3   2.1  11.4   2.1
>   7. i79zhh-025-ae0.bb.ip-plus.net
> 0.0%    20    2.4   4.0   2.0  24.3   5.2
>   8. 72.14.223.0 0.0%    20    2.9   3.5   2.6   8.6   1.6
>   9. 172.253.50.235 0.0%    20    2.9   2.8   2.4   3.1   0.2 10.
> 172.253.50.21 0.0%    20    3.2   3.8   3.2   4.3   0.3 11. dns.google
> 0.0%    20    2.8   2.8   2.4   3.4   0.3
> 
> Cheers,
> Mateusz
> 
> 
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Re: [swinog] SafeHost AS21217 accused to leak routes for two hours to China Telecom AS4134 - anyone from SafeHost to comment?

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Hi,

Nobody of us made ever a typo...

Here is a good article:
https://blogs.oracle.com/internetintelligence/large-european-routing-leak-sends-traffic-through-china-telecom

Cheers,
Günti

Am 09.06.2019 um 13:43 schrieb Job Snijders mailto:j...@ntt.net>>:

And they have yet to explain how this could happen. I tried calling their NOC 
but they didn’t pick up the phone :-(

https://twitter.com/swisscolo/status/1136980918227341312?s=21

Kind regards,

Job

On Sun, Jun 9, 2019 at 7:25 Fredy Kuenzler 
mailto:kuenz...@init7.net>> wrote:
https://blog.apnic.net/2019/06/07/large-european-routing-leak-sends-traffic-through-china-telecom/

--
Fredy Kuenzler
Init7 (Switzerland) Ltd.
Technoparkstrasse 
5
CH-8406 
Winterthur
Switzerland

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Re: [swinog] Rack mounting Switch/Routers in Cold and Hot Isle DC

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Hi Patrick

better airflow vs. nice/easy cabling

better airflow= less HW issues
  = less impact
  = equip. lives longer 
  = saves finally money

nice/easy cabling = nice to see
  = less cable problems
  = faster changes/troubleshooting on HW-side

So my vote is clear for better airflow.

Cheers,
Günti

> -Original Message-
> From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-
> boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Patrick Studer
> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2016 2:31 PM
> To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
> Subject: ***Signed_Message*** Re: [swinog] Rack mounting Switch/Routers
> in Cold and Hot Isle DC
> 
> Hi
> 
> Thanks for all the input.
> 
> Unfortunately, my questions seems not to be clear enough.
> 
> I know, how to solve the issue.
> 
> I just wanted to know, if anybody is strictly following the best
> practice for the airflow or if some ignore the best practice in place
> for a proper cabling (and perhaps just leaves an additional U free for
> airflow)?
> 
> Or in other words, which option count more (better airflow vs. nice/easy
> cabling).
> 
> Kind regards
> 
> Patrick Studer
> 
> 
> 
> **
> X-NetConsulting GmbH Internet http://www.x-
> netconsulting.ch Nauenstrasse 49  E-
> Mail p.stu...@x-netconsulting.ch
> CH-4052 Basel    Telefon    +41 61 315 85 55
> Schweiz  Fax    +41 61 315 85 59
> 
> 
> **
> 
> 
> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-
> boun...@lists.swinog.ch]
> Im Auftrag von Gregor Riepl
> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 4. August 2016 23:16
> An: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
> Betreff: Re: [swinog] Rack mounting Switch/Routers in Cold and Hot Isle
> DC
> 
> > How to you solve this issue?
> 
> The easiest solution, if there is no fancy (i.e. software controlled)
> way to reverse fan flow:
> 
> Just open the switch, unscrew the fans, turn them around and remount
> them.
> 
> Our network engineer did that countless times, and it always works.
> 
> No need to spend heaps of $$$ on hardware with the "correct" flow
> direction.
> 
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Re: [swinog] A little OT: scans of old phonebook tarif pages

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Hi Simon

Have you tried this URL?:
http://www.mfk.ch/sammlung/ptt-archiv/

Cheers,
Günti


> -Original Message-
> From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-
> boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Martin Ebnoether
> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2016 10:35 AM
> To: Simon Biddle 
> Cc: swi...@swinog.ch
> Subject: Re: [swinog] A little OT: scans of old phonebook tarif pages
> 
> On the Wed, Apr 06, 2016 at 07:21:32AM +0200, Simon Biddle blubbered:
> 
> Hoi Simon.
> 
> >   Was wondering if any of you have old phonebooks (or an idea of) that
> > have the pricing for local, long-distance & internationals calls from
> > the 70s (or
> > earlier) to PTT breakup & privatisation (1998?)? If you could scan
> > them so we can compare with other bits of the world it'd be really
> cool.
> 
> Maybe the people from the Telefonmuseum in Islikon/TG can help you?
> 
> http://www.telephonica.ch/
> 
> CU, Martin
> 
> --
> „Wollen Sie mir gütigst sagen,“ fragte Alice etwas furchtsam, denn sie
> wusste nicht recht, ob es sich für sie schicke zuerst zu sprechen,
> „warum Ihre Katze so grinst?“ „Es ist eine Grinse-Katze,“ sagte die
> Herzogin, „darum!“  😻
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Re: [swinog] RFC1918 IP's im Internet-Trace outbound - eine Unsitte - oder liege ich falsch ?

[Robert.Guentensperger]

100% ACK

Gruss
Günti

> -Original Message-
> From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-
> boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of René Gallati
> Sent: Friday, March 06, 2015 3:14 PM
> To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
> Subject: Re: [swinog] RFC1918 IP's im Internet-Trace outbound - eine
> Unsitte - oder liege ich falsch ?
> 
> Hallo,
> 
> > seit gestern bin ich mit meinem 2. Internet-Homefeed wieder Sunrise
> Kunde.
> > Die haben nun RFC 1918 IP's im Trace, was ich als falsch empfinde.
> 
> Nur "ausgehend", bei Deinem inbound trace siehst Du ja keine RFC 1918
> IPs, d.h. sie leaken diese IPs auch nicht ins Internet. Aber in ihrem
> eigenen privaten Netz verwenden sie sie und die siehst Du.
> 
> Du machst ja exakt das gleiche mit Deinem internen Router und
> 192.168.208.1/24 ! Von aussen sieht man das nicht, ist man "hinter Dir"
> angeschlossen (Hast Du Gäste WLAN?) würde man es sehen. Weshalb also
> willst Du dass Sunrise etwas nicht macht dass Du selber fröhlich tust?
> 
> Am Ende bist Du an ihrem privaten Netz angeschlossen und Teile ihrer
> Infrastruktur verwenden offenbar private IPs. Natürlich sieht es
> hässlich aus und ja schöner wäre es wenn es "korrekte" IPs wären. Aber
> ich denke jeder weiss mittlerweile wie verschwendbar public v4 IPs so
> im allgemeinen sind; nicht jeder hat noch Berge zur Verwendung im
> Schrank stehen. Services und Geräte die vom Internet her direkt nicht
> ansprechbar sein müssen, wie offenbar diese Router hier dürfen meiner
> Meinung nach sehr wohl RFC 1918 IPs tragen. Wenn möglich aber dann auch
> so konfigurieren, dass sie nicht auf icmp's/Anfragen reagieren und
> antworten, kundenseitig her.
> 
> > Ich finde es FALSCH, im Internet auf Routern RFC1918 IP's zu
> verwenden.
> > (ausser auf Management IP's die NICHT in Traces etc zu sehen sind)
> > Siehe unten.
> 
> Das ist nicht "das Internet", das ist ein privates Netz einer privaten
> Firma welche Dir einen Service darauf anbietet. Sie leaken diese
> Adressen nicht ins Internet. Das siehst Du im inbound trace.
> 
> Gruss
> 
> René
> 
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Re: [swinog] Swisscom 6RD and MTU

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Hi Vincent,

I've asked our 6rd Guru.
This is related to our PPPoE-customers. Their MTU is reduced by another 8 Bytes 
because of the PPPoE header.

I hope this helps to clear the confusion.

Regards,
Günti


> -Original Message-
> From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-
> boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Vincent Bernat
> Sent: Sunday, November 09, 2014 12:33 PM
> To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
> Subject: [swinog] Swisscom 6RD and MTU
> 
> Hi!
> 
> At home, I have replaced Swisscom internet box by my own (Linux)
> router. For IPv6, I noticed that the MTU is 1472 instead of 1480 (1500
> - 20). For IPv4, MTU is 1500.
> 
> Does anyone know why the MTU on those 6RD links has to be 1472 and not
> 1480? Have other people with the same setup noticed that too?
> --
> printk("HPFS: G... Kernel memory corrupted ... going on, but
> it'll crash very soon :-(\n");
> 2.4.3 linux/fs/hpfs/super.c
> 
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[swinog] SwiNOG #27

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Dear organisation-team

Thank's a lot for organising Yesterday's meeting!
It's been very interesting and a pleasure as usual.

Cheers,
Günti


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Re: [swinog] AGUR12

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Frei nach Obelix: die spinnen, die Berner

Gruss
Günti


Am 08.12.2013 um 20:46 schrieb Oliver Schad :

> Hallo zusammen,
> 
> habt ihr schon das Papier der AGUR12 gelesen?
> https://www.ige.ch/fileadmin/user_upload/Urheberrecht/d/Schlussbericht_der_AGUR12_vom_28_11_2013.pdf
> 
> Kapitel 9 enthält Forderungen, z.B.:
> 
> | In der Schweiz befindliche Access Provider sollen auf behördliche
> | Anweisung hin in schwerwiegenden Fällen den Zugang zu Webportalen mit
> | offensichtlich illegalen Quellen über IP- und DNS-Blocking sperren.
> 
> China wir kommen und zwar nicht, weil wir gefährliche Terroristen
> jagen, sondern gefährliche Kopierer.
> 
> Schön auch die Hilfspolizistenaufgaben, wo Provider selbständig nach
> illegalen Inhalten suchen dürfen.
> 
> Meinungen?
> 
> Schöne Grüsse
> Oli
> 
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Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #25 / WCIT

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Dear all,

I can only follow up Arnold's words and say: Thank's a lot to all involved in 
the organization of SwiNOG-25!

Cheers,
Günti

|-Original Message-
|From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-
|boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Arnold Nipper
|Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2012 8:50 PM
|To: swi...@swinog.ch
|Subject: Re: [swinog] SwiNOG #25 / WCIT
|
|Thanks for giving me the opportunity to present on this matter.
|
|This is the RIR's pov ...
|http://www.nro.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/joint-submission-WCIT-RIR.pdf
|
|Ans as always: very excellent meeting. Big thanks goes to the
|organisers. And big thanks to all my Swiss friends,
|
|
|
|Arnold
|--
|Arnold Nipper / nIPper consulting, Sandhausen, Germany
|email: arn...@nipper.de  phone: +49 6224 5593407 2
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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 79, Issue 1: remotely-controlled network tests, like packet capture

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Ähmm Stan,


|>6-cell battery (!)

Spezifikationen (on Detail page)
...
Akku Technologie
3 cell Li-ion Battery up to 4 hour battery life
^^

Cheers,
Günti


|-Original Message-
|From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-
|boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Stanislav Sinyagin
|Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2011 2:33 PM
|To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
|Subject: Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 79, Issue 1: remotely-
|controlled network tests, like packet capture
|
|
|
|
|
|- Original Message -
|> From: "Fischer, Martin" 
|> To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
|> Cc:
|> Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2011 1:30 PM
|> Subject: Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 79, Issue 1: remotely-
|controlled network tests, like packet capture
|>
|> Stanislav Sinyagin  wrote:
|>
|>    Migros is selling a cheap netbook for CHF 222.-
|>   http://goo.gl/1tZ5C 
|>    Acer Aspire One AOD 255E-13DQws
|>    1024x600 screen, 1GB RAM, 250GB disk
|>    6-cell battery (!)
|>
|>    It's a perfect device for remotely-controlled network tests, like
|>    packet capture or any telnet/snmp/SIP/perlscript testing
|>    scenarios that you like.
|>
|> (...)
|>
|> My Experience is that notebooks are not realy useful for packet
|> sniffing...as more an more Gibabit is common and laptops are no a
|> recommended option to measure data transmission.
|>
|> Especialy when capture filters will be used...
|>
|> Also the available disc space is very limited...
|>
|> I prefer older server infrastructure, that is able to run captures
|from
|> several points with 2-4 or more NIC's in a ringbuffer configuration...
|
|
|You are right in the sense that the right tool should be used for the
|right job :)
|
|Of course it's not suitable for high-bandwidth sniffing, although quite
|useful for
|the occasions where you don't have high-volume traffic.
|For example, I use one such notebook for an IP-telephony deployment near
|the
|border controllers. As it's not yet in production, I know exactly how
|much traffic
|I'm going to have.
|
|The benefit is that I easily bring this notebook to the customer
|location,
|and it doesn't need much (rack)space. Also I don't have to ask the
|customer to
|provide new PC hardware.
|
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Re: [swinog] Bluewin dynamic IP-ranges

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Dear all

Since our IP-addresses are not a secret, I can deliver them on request.
We are thinking about a separate webpage where we publish our customer-ranges.
There are more and more such requests from customers/partners/providers for 
this.

Cheers,
Günti


|-Original Message-
|From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-
|boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Peter Keel
|Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2011 9:44 AM
|To: Stefan Rothenbuehler
|Cc: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
|Subject: Re: [swinog] Bluewin dynamic IP-ranges
|
|Hello
|
|* on the Wed, Mar 09, 2011 at 04:28:34PM +0100, Stefan Rothenbuehler
|wrote:
|> If you're providing a service for all Bluewin customers, I assume
|> that the project partner is Swisscom.
|> So I'm your project partner within Swisscom can give you the desired
|> IP range information.
|
|You might be shocked to hear that it's possible that an ISP wants to
|whitelist all Bluewin-Ranges *despite* having nothing to do with
|Swisscom or Bluewin itself.
|
|In fact, we also have the same issue; we need to firewall something,
|but our customer, which happens to use a dynamic IP in the
|Swisscom/Bluewin
|range, needs to have access. And its far better to allow all your
|dynamic
|IP-ranges than to allow the rest of the world as well.
|
|Cheers
|Seegras
|--
|"Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve
|neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin
|"It's also true that those who would give up privacy for security are
|likely to end up with neither." -- Bruce Schneier
|
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Re: [swinog] 128M ATA Flash Card

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Hi Michel

A cheap CFcard & Adapter would be available in every Compi-store. Just be 
carefull with this in a Supervisor Engine. Makes trouble to remove...

Cheers,
Günti



Am 18.02.2011 um 14:07 schrieb "Michel Renfer" 
mailto:mic...@swinog.org>>:

Hi All!

Anyone had some unused PCMCIA ATA Flash Cards (128M)?

cheers,
michel

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Re: [swinog] Best Sales 2010!

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Full ACK

Cheers,
Günti
 

-Original Message-
From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On 
Behalf Of Fredy Kuenzler
Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2010 12:19 PM
To: swi...@swinog.ch
Subject: Re: [swinog] Best Sales 2010!

Am 10.08.2010 09:03, schrieb Viktor Steinmann:
> IMHO the time for moderation has arrived...

Disagree. This is the first spam in the list for years. If you find at least 
three volounteers to moderate the list with guaranteed response time we can 
talk about moderation, but even then I don't think it's necessary. This list 
became rather low volume in the recent past, despite that it has today 863 
subscribers, and there is not much noise either.

F.



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Re: [swinog] A fake online shop ?

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Hi Charles

I agree that the ratings may not be up-to-date.
But it's a a good indicator.

As far as possible I buy on invoice.
Or by credit card.

There are too many criminals in the internet. So paying in advance is not an 
option for me.

Cheers
Günti


-Original Message-
From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On 
Behalf Of Charles Buckley
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 10:41 AM
To: swi...@swinog.ch
Subject: Re: [swinog] A fake online shop ?

Careful.  The ratings on toppreise aren't always up-to-date.  

A while back, I bought some networking gear from the Speicher-Shop.  They were 
also well-rated, but somehow the fact that the owner was going bankrupt and 
didn't have any money to pay his employees was overlooked.

I chose payment in advance -- the usual conditions in Switzerland are such that 
it is much more expensive if you don't.  When my goods didn't arrive, and 
e-mail exchanges with the shop asking for either the goods or a refund after a 
while didn't get answered, I started calling around.  I spoke to an employee of 
the shop who told me the situation.  While he was happy to give me the handy 
number of the owner, he told me that I would only be lied to.  

So I made use of the prosecution office (Betreibungsamt) for the first time, 
other than to get an extract of my own clean record.  The referred me to the 
corresponding office in Rorschach, to whom I wrote a letter.  (Annoying thing 
is, everytime you write those people, they want Fr. 30 from you to do
anything.)

About that time, all mention of Speicher-Shop mysteriously disappeared from 
toppreise.  

Apparently my letter made it to the Attorney General of St Gallen, along with 
complaints from others.  They prosecuted and convicted the owner, and sent me a 
list of several hundered plaintiffs with the amountd they were awarded.  My 
award covered the cost of what I ordered, the Betreibungskosten, and a bit 
more, but nowhere near enough to cover the lost revenue from the project I 
could not start on time because the device never
arrived.

And of course, the bankrupt owner never paid me anything back.  I bet the only 
costs that got recovered out of that operation are around Fr. 3'500 in court 
costs.  

So one should definitely beware of these online places on toppreise.
Perhaps the rating service could be expanded to cover financial soundness of
the offerors on a voluntary basis?   



-Original Message-
From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch]
On Behalf Of Steven Glogger
Sent: Freitag, 22. Januar 2010 09:59
To: Gregoire Huet
Cc: swi...@swinog.ch
Subject: Re: [swinog] A fake online shop ?

hi greg

i've ordered 2-3 things in the past ~2 years - never had any issue.

-steven

Gregoire Huet wrote:
> Hello Swinog,
>
> Has anybody ever ordered something by the Techmania shop ?
>
> I'm just wondering if it is a *real* shop, despite its quite good 
> notation on Toppreise. Maybe has it turned to some thieves 
> association, not answering emails and not delivering the goods.
>
> I'm looking for a contact there, i would be glad if you give me one.
>
> Thank you
>
> Greg
> --
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Re: [swinog] A fake online shop ?

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Hi Gregor

I have never had any contact with them, but seen them on toppreise since a 
long(er) time.
Have you checked the rating?
http://www.toppreise.ch/shop_306.html

Cheers
Günti


From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On 
Behalf Of Gregoire Huet
Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 9:39 AM
To: swi...@swinog.ch
Subject: [swinog] A fake online shop ?

Hello Swinog,

Has anybody ever ordered something by the Techmania shop ?

I'm just wondering if it is a *real* shop, despite its quite
good notation on Toppreise. Maybe has it turned to some
thieves association, not answering emails and not delivering
the goods.

I'm looking for a contact there, i would be glad if you give
me one.

Thank you

Greg

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[swinog] Help from sunrise needed

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Hello 

Can someone from sunrise-NOC contact me off-list please?
There's a routing problem.

Cheers
Günti

079 308 46 44

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Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 60, Issue 1

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Hi

We're investigating.

Cheers
Günti
 

-Original Message-
From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On 
Behalf Of supp...@hightechbits.com
Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 9:20 PM
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Subject: Re: [swinog] swinog Digest, Vol 60, Issue 1

here same problem, bluewin is death

bluewin dns
195.186.1.110
195.186.4.110

kind regards mark


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Betreff: swinog Digest, Vol 60, Issue 1

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Today's Topics:

   1. Bluewin DNS problems (Benjamin Schlageter)
   2. Re: Bluewin DNS problems (Flavio Tischhauser)
   3. Re: Bluewin DNS problems (Umberto Annino)
   4. Re: Bluewin DNS problems (Adrian Ulrich)
   5. Re: Bluewin DNS problems (Simon Leins)
   6. Re: Bluewin DNS problems (Benjamin Schlageter)
   7. routing quirks with IP-MAN (Marc SCHAEFER)
   8. Re: Bluewin DNS problems (Romain Bourdy)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:16:14 +0100
From: Benjamin Schlageter 
Subject: [swinog] Bluewin DNS problems
To: 
Message-ID: 
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi

Anybody knows something about big DNS troubles with Bluewin ADSL/VDSL?
As I saw, my router can?t resolve any domains... Lucky I got some other dns 
servers =)

Cheers,
Benjamin
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 20:37:03 +0100
From: Flavio Tischhauser 
Subject: Re: [swinog] Bluewin DNS problems
To: Benjamin Schlageter 
Cc: SWINOG 
Message-ID:
<9bb210121001041137sc5835f3v55035b859e007...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

On Mon, Jan 4, 2010 at 20:16, Benjamin Schlageter 
wrote:
> Anybody knows something about big DNS troubles with Bluewin ADSL/VDSL?
> As I saw, my router can?t resolve any domains... Lucky I got some 
> other
dns servers =)
>

Same here, also receiving IMs from other swisscom customers telling me that 
"their internet is broken".

regards

Flavio



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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:37:25 +0100
From: "Umberto Annino" 
Subject: Re: [swinog] Bluewin DNS problems
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Message-ID: <20100104193725.146...@gmx.net>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

I don't KNOW anything about it, but I am experiencing the same here, since 
about one hour. Some sites respond well, others not or only very shaky or 
partial.

DNS query time between 500-700ms.

I particularly like how bluewin is capable of presenting me a NICE and 
easy-to-find status page of their service - NOT. stone age or what?

regards,
Umbi

 Original-Nachricht 
> Datum: Mon, 04 Jan 2010 20:16:14 +0100
> Von: Benjamin Schlageter 
> An: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
> Betreff: [swinog] Bluewin DNS problems

> Hi
> 
> Anybody knows something about big DNS troubles with Bluewin ADSL/VDSL?
> As I saw, my router can?t resolve any domains... Lucky I got some 
> other dns servers =)
> 
> Cheers,
> Benjamin



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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 20:40:53 +0100
From: Adrian Ulrich 
Subject: Re: [swinog] Bluewin DNS problems
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Message-ID: <20100104194054.0d0308...@echelon.blinkenlights.ch>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

> Anybody knows something about big DNS troubles with Bluewin ADSL/VDSL?

No: Bluewin-DNS is fine for me. But i had some ADSL problems on 2-3. Jan:
I had about ~30% packet loss with any (?) gateway in 195.186.252.0/24.

Re-Connecting until i got a gateway in the 253-range fixed the problem for me

Regards,
 Adrian



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 20:46:11 +0100
From: Simon Leins 
Subject: Re: [swinog] Bluewin DNS problems
To: Benjamin Schlageter 
Cc: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Message-ID:
<6b2e368e1001041146m5966a8fcydb6308ac0996f...@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"

Pity, it's going to be a pain for Youporn stats tonight. Can't seem to find
out anything

Re: [swinog] Cisco router problem: config lost

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Hi Sebastien

There is a free tool for the config-registers available which is very usefull:
http://www.boson.com/FreeUtilities.html

--> Config Reg Calculator

Best regards,
Günti
 

-Original Message-
From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On 
Behalf Of Rob Thomas
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2009 9:42 PM
To: . .
Cc: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Subject: Re: [swinog] Cisco router problem: config lost

Hi, Sebastien.

>   --- System Configuration Dialog ---
> 
> Would you like to enter the initial configuration dialog? [yes/no]:
> 
> --
> 
> 
> what`s the problem here?

Sounds like a config-register needs to be altered.  Take a peek here:




Hope this helps!

Thanks,
Rob.
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Re: [swinog] "Hackerparagraph" (fwd)

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Hi Christa

> (do you have any decision procedures?)
I guess that the only decission would be, who pays you the beer/drink/prosecco 
or whatever.
;-)

Cheers
Günti


From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On 
Behalf Of Christa Pfister
Sent: Wednesday, March 18, 2009 4:22 PM
To: swi...@swinog.ch
Subject: Re: [swinog] "Hackerparagraph" (fwd)

I have a suggestion: I could draft a comment (regarding "hacking-tools") for 
the Vernehmlassung and submit it to the mailing-list for approval and input by 
SWINOG members. As the author of a doctoral thesis on Art. 143bis (the Swiss 
hacking provision), I might be able to add a certain academic weight to the 
SWINOG position.

I would be prepared to do this for free, it wouldn't be a paid "Gutachten", but 
rather a joint statement by an association of people who deal with this issues 
on a daily basis and a lawyer who has studied this provision in depth.

If SWINOG agrees (do you have any decision procedures?), I would submit a draft 
by 15 May 2009. The Vernehmlassung ends 30 June, so that would leave us enough 
time for discussion.

Regards,
Christa



Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch im Auftrag von Daniel Roethlisberger
Gesendet: Mi 18.03.2009 15:45
An: SWINOG
Betreff: Re: [swinog] "Hackerparagraph" (fwd)


Andreas Fink  2009-03-17:
> Collegues,
>
> The federal adminstration wants to change the law about cyber crime.
>
> See also:
>
> >http://www.admin.ch/ch/d/gg/pc/pendent.html#EJPD
> (or especially Genehmigung und Umsetzung des Übereinkommens des
> Europarates über die Cyberkriminalität  )
[...]

Note that according to the "Adressatenliste", SwiNOG was
explicitly invited to comment on the proposed change of law.

I guess SwiNOG should comment on Art. 143bis Abs. 2 and request a
clarification, in order to make sure that academical, commercial
and private IT security research will not be affected by the
change of law.  The proposed wording of Abs. 2 currently does not
adequatly honour the fact that security tools are dual-use goods
by nature; i.e. they are not inherently good or evil.  Or in
other words, there is no practical way to distinguish a tool used
by a professional penetration tester from a tool used by a
blackhat.  The difference between the two is not in the tools,
it's in the contracts (i.e. approval of the target's owner).

--
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http://daniel.roe.ch/

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Re: [swinog] SWITCH Sourceforge mirror available again

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Hi

>  the topic isn't that easy!
Especially when you have hundreds and not only 20 or 30 devices in the 
network...

Cheers
Günti
 

-Original Message-
From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On 
Behalf Of Mario Iseli
Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:18 AM
To: swi...@swinog.ch
Subject: Re: [swinog] SWITCH Sourceforge mirror available again

Hi Andreas,

On Mon, 2009-02-23 at 10:12 +0100, Andreas Fink wrote:
> IPv6 is available to the end user by default with many ISP's. just not 
> on the lazy ones like Swisscom, Cablecom etc... ;-).

sorry - that's not entirely true! Sometimes you have a dependency on the 
Layer2-Protocol to support new Layer3-Protocols. It's now always as nice as 
Ethernet where you just change the Ethertype. For example take DOCSIS, you can 
use native IPv6 only with the 3.0 standard of DOCSIS, which most cable 
operators in .ch don't use yet

So just think a bit before shouting "lazy ISP", the topic isn't that easy!

Cheers,
Mario

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Re: [swinog] Post from Canton de Vaud

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Funny "Verfügung".
But what about Swisscom and sunrise and maybe others?
Are those not ISP??

Just a stupid question...

Cheers,
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Re: [swinog] following to my illegal service secret stuff

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Full ACK

Günti

--- Ursprüngliche Nachricht ---
Von: "Stanislav Sinyagin" 
Betreff: Re: [swinog] following to my illegal service secret stuff
Datum: 2. Februar 2009
Uhrzeit: 20:18:22


i think it makes sense to set up the approval for subscription
requests, and ban all anonymous users - this makes it fair for everyone.




- Original Message 
> From: Steven Glogger 
> To: Zorg 421 ; swi...@swinog.ch
> Sent: Sunday, February 1, 2009 10:12:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [swinog] following to my illegal service secret stuff
>
> sorry, zorg
>
> 1) but if you continue like this we have to think about putting this
> mailinglist into some kind of moderated mode. we will not allow you to abuse
> this list for any kind of revenge, for any kind of political fight or any
> kind of propaganda.
>
> 2) you're probably the only guy using a nick name / now showing the real
> name. do you have to hide something?
>
> 3) please read again the charter of swinog
> (http://www.swinog.ch/charter/index.asp) to get an idea what is this
> mailinglist - what is swinog for. especially the 3rd bullet might be
> interesting.
>
> greetings
>
> -steven
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> From: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch
> [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] On Behalf Of Zorg 421
> Sent: Sunday, February 01, 2009 4:54 PM
> To: swi...@swinog.ch
> Subject: [swinog] following to my illegal service secret stuff
>
>
> Hello,
>
> A following to my service secret stuff:
>
> - It does not seem linked much to the vaud state police before
> may-june 2008.
> - Between 2002 and 2007, it definitively seems linked to the DDPS /
> SRS (Strategischer Nachrichtendienst SND), the "agents" close to me being
> RENATO and GADLU.
>
> The goal of all of this mess:
>
> Infiltrating the internet community (in this experiment, thru me)
> and get close to people able to engineer
> traffic spying device, by using the filtrating proxy and
> anti-pedocriminality "coverup".
>
> The whitebox setup is a perfect setup for illegal spying activities
> that spying shop are so eager to have under their hands.
> Don't dream much: they are laws regulating that kind of action, but
> service secret office people always complain about
> the hassle to go thru the legal way.
>
> With me, their have been pushing way too far, but beware, they may
> act more sensibly next time.
>
> I've added some abstract and conclusion to the website, but it's
> still in french only.
>
> http://helvetic-park.bravehost.com/
>
>
> Regards.
>
>
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Re: [swinog] IRC Server dead ?

[Robert.Guentensperger]

You're right!
Some (!) paranoia is not too bad.

Cheers
Günti


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rainer Duffner] 
IRC Server dead ?

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Re: [swinog] primary / backup BGP multi homed issue

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Roman wrote:
> There is a good chance your transit-providers will leave them on your route...

As long as i've been responsible: No

Cheers,
Günti


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Roman Hochuli
Sent: Thursday, September 04, 2008 12:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [swinog] primary / backup BGP multi homed issue

> Sunrise changed their as-communities recently so that's no longer
> possible for our backup provider to influence their local-pref.

Did you tried to mark your routes with the L3-communities for local-pref? There 
is a good chance your transit-providers will leave them on your route and thus 
make you able to influence your routing within L3.

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Operations Manager

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[swinog] RE: Switzerlandwide Internet problem

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Hi Michele

No known problems/attacks, also all statistics look fine here.

Cheers
Günti


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michele 
Capobianco
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 3:00 PM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [swinog] Switzerlandwide Internet problem

Hey all

A friend just told me that Cybernet told him there is a Switzerlandwide 
Internet Problem.
Does anybody know something?

Cheers
Michele

Online Consulting AG, Michele Capobianco, System Administrator, Weststrasse 38, 
CH-9500 Wil
Phone +41 (0)71 913 31 31, Fax +41 (0)71 913 31 32
http://www.online.ch, [EMAIL PROTECTED]





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RE: [swinog] Interxion Stromausfall?

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Hi Marco

No idea.
But inteXion's homepage tells nothing about this...

Cheers
Günti


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marco Fretz
Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2008 2:36 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [swinog] Interxion Stromausfall?

hi SwiNOG

Does anyone know what has happened to Interxion today? This article doesn't say 
verys much. I dont think it was interxions fault or am i wrong? :)

http://www.tagi.ch/dyn/news/wirtschaft/875026.html

We were not really affected what has happened, but its interesting...


best regards
marco fretz
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[swinog] Swinog-16

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Dear Board members

I would say "THANK YOU" for the organization of this (again) wonderfull day!
And also a big thanks to our sponsors. 
I know it's always a hard work.

Best regards
Günti
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RE: [swinog] Hackattaken

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Hi Xaver
 
TCP-SYN Attacks??
Actually nothing for Bluewin.
Actually...
 
Cheers,
Günti



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Xaver Aerni
Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 4:49 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [swinog] Hackattaken


Hallo,
Sorry das ich das auf Deutsch schreibe...
Seit am Freitag haben wir in der Sekunde über 25 000 Hackattaken auf unser 
System. Mit der Folge, das die Leitung dicht ist und auch die Firewall mal kurz 
zu macht...

Unserer Analsyse kommen die Attaken von diversen Systemen... Es werden wie 
gesagt über 24 000 Sessionen geöffnet. (in Kurzer Zeit)
Der Angriff dauert zwischen 8 und 15 Minuten... So wie es aussieht im Moment 
sinkend. (ohne Gewähr).
Der Angriff wird alle 100 Minuten wiederholt
 
Das tragische ist das während des Angriffes keinen Traffic mehr durchkommt. Ist 
auch anderen Providern das Problem bekannt...
Gruss Xaver
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RE: [swinog] dns1.bluewin.ch not replicating

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Hi Mike

Our DNS-Specialist declines any problems.

Cheers,
Günti

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Kellenberger
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [swinog] dns1.bluewin.ch not replicating

Hi all

Is there a problem with dns1.bluewin.ch? Requests for domains which were 
recently registered with switch do not resolve...

The serial number on the response supports my theory.

; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> bilder-floriannussbaumer.ch ANY @dns1.bluewin.ch ; (1 
server found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 4 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; 
QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUERY SECTION:
;;  bilder-floriannussbaumer.ch, type = ANY, class = IN

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
ch. 39m51s IN SOA   domreg.nic.ch. helpdesk.nic.ch.
(
2008012300  ; serial
1H  ; refresh
30M ; retry
4w2d; expiry
1H ); minimum


; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> bilder-floriannussbaumer.ch ANY @dns2.bluewin.ch ; (1 
server found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4 ;; flags: qr rd ra; 
QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUERY SECTION:
;;  bilder-floriannussbaumer.ch, type = ANY, class = IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
bilder-floriannussbaumer.ch.  23h39m IN MX  10 hermes.escapenet.ch.
bilder-floriannussbaumer.ch.  23h39m IN SOA  dns1.escapenet.ch.
webmaster.escapenet.ch. (
200801221   ; serial
3H  ; refresh
1H  ; retry
1W  ; expiry
1D ); minimum

bilder-floriannussbaumer.ch.  23h39m IN A  193.9.122.15 
bilder-floriannussbaumer.ch.  23h39m IN NS  dns2.escapenet.ch.
bilder-floriannussbaumer.ch.  23h39m IN NS  dns1.escapenet.ch.


Regards

-- 
Mike Kellenberger  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Escapenet - the Web Company   Tel +41 52 235 0700
http://www.escapenet.ch   Skype mikek70atwork
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RE: [swinog] dns1.bluewin.ch not replicating

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Hi Mike

I've forwarded your mail internally.

Happy weekend,
Günti
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Kellenberger
Sent: Friday, January 25, 2008 11:49 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [swinog] dns1.bluewin.ch not replicating

Hi all

Is there a problem with dns1.bluewin.ch? Requests for domains which were 
recently registered with switch do not resolve...

The serial number on the response supports my theory.

; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> bilder-floriannussbaumer.ch ANY @dns1.bluewin.ch ; (1 
server found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NXDOMAIN, id: 4 ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; 
QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 0, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUERY SECTION:
;;  bilder-floriannussbaumer.ch, type = ANY, class = IN

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
ch. 39m51s IN SOA   domreg.nic.ch. helpdesk.nic.ch.
(
2008012300  ; serial
1H  ; refresh
30M ; retry
4w2d; expiry
1H ); minimum


; <<>> DiG 8.3 <<>> bilder-floriannussbaumer.ch ANY @dns2.bluewin.ch ; (1 
server found) ;; res options: init recurs defnam dnsrch ;; got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 4 ;; flags: qr rd ra; 
QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 5, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0 ;; QUERY SECTION:
;;  bilder-floriannussbaumer.ch, type = ANY, class = IN

;; ANSWER SECTION:
bilder-floriannussbaumer.ch.  23h39m IN MX  10 hermes.escapenet.ch.
bilder-floriannussbaumer.ch.  23h39m IN SOA  dns1.escapenet.ch.
webmaster.escapenet.ch. (
200801221   ; serial
3H  ; refresh
1H  ; retry
1W  ; expiry
1D ); minimum

bilder-floriannussbaumer.ch.  23h39m IN A  193.9.122.15 
bilder-floriannussbaumer.ch.  23h39m IN NS  dns2.escapenet.ch.
bilder-floriannussbaumer.ch.  23h39m IN NS  dns1.escapenet.ch.


Regards

-- 
Mike Kellenberger  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Escapenet - the Web Company   Tel +41 52 235 0700
http://www.escapenet.ch   Skype mikek70atwork
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RE: [swinog] Justice Order to block websites

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Hi Manuel

I'm not a lawyer.
But I guess ignoring wouldn't be a good idea.

Cheers
Günti
 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Manuel Wenger
Sent: Monday, January 07, 2008 9:09 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [swinog] Justice Order to block websites

Happy New Year to everyone :-)

Are there any news on this? We have also received the letter. Is there a 
standard reply to send? Or can we just ignore the letter?

regards
-Manuel


Il giorno 25-dic-07, alle ore 15:27, Xaver Aerni ha scritto:

> I ask you have all ISP's receive this letter. I know 3 ISP' in Zuerich 
> or St. Gallen, they haven't received it.
>
>
>> -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
>> Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von Pascal Gloor
>> Gesendet: Montag, 24. Dezember 2007 10:45
>> An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>> Betreff: Re: [swinog] Justice Order to block websites - more in the 
>> press !
>>
>> http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/101028
>>

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RE: [swinog] adobe.com down?

[Robert.Guentensperger]

http://www.adobe.com/de/

is working from Bluewin.

Cheers,
Günti 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andreas Weiler - 
Kabelfernsehen Boedeli AG
Sent: Wednesday, November 07, 2007 2:19 PM
To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch
Subject: [swinog] adobe.com down?

Hi all

I'm getting no answer from the adobe.com or adobe.de site. Looks like adobe is 
not reachable at the moment.

Can anybody confirm this?

Andreas Weiler
Kabelfernsehen Boedeli AG

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RE: [swinog] Patch Documentation Tool

[Robert.Guentensperger]

Hi Steven

If it hasn't really to be freeware/GPL then have a look into this tool:
http://www.genesiscom.ch/de/2/products/nms/netViz_1457.asp

I've seen a demonstration. It's powerfull, but not for free.

Cheers,
Günti

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Glogger Steven, 
FX-IT-SME-NEO
Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 5:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [swinog] Patch Documentation Tool

hi all

i'm just wondering what is the community using to document patchings within 
their datacenter?
sure, there will be a lot of people telling me: excel - please no such answers 
,-)

i'm looking for a kind of "intelligent" application (or at least based on a 
database).
anything around? maybe opensource based?

-steven
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