[swinog] Re: Swisscom DNS issue: spectrum-conference.org wrongfully resolves to a bluewin address in swisscom mobile networks
Public DNS Providers could possibly abuse their position and see what users of it are doing on the internet. It‘s different though, because a public dns provider cannot see who the user is exactly, they could take a good guess at it, but it‘s not always certain. ISPs (atleast swiss providers) have logs of IPs to Customer. This would allow the ISP to see exactly what customer XYZ is doing on the internet. Even if it‘s not permitted by privacy laws, what stops the provider from accessing it? Public Providers could do the same, but they most definitely do not know the exact name, address and other details about the customer, as the ISP can. ___ swinog mailing list -- swinog@lists.swinog.ch To unsubscribe send an email to swinog-le...@lists.swinog.ch
[swinog] Re: Swisscom DNS issue: spectrum-conference.org wrongfully resolves to a bluewin address in swisscom mobile networks
That‘s the legal aspect of things. That is of course totally normal. Every ISP has to follow that. Blocking other sites at your own will, just like swisscom is doing here, is not. Having users that simply do not wish to be blocked by your blocking service for „gambling”, or those that simply do not trust your DNS servers should still be free to use public DNS servers. That still does not answer why you as an ISP try to convince your customers to not use Public DNS Servers, or „not seeing a reason“ in them doing so. ___ swinog mailing list -- swinog@lists.swinog.ch To unsubscribe send an email to swinog-le...@lists.swinog.ch
[swinog] Re: Swisscom DNS issue: spectrum-conference.org wrongfully resolves to a bluewin address in swisscom mobile networks
I find your last statement very ironic. There are valid reasons for using a different server than the ISP provided ones. Whether it‘s latency, as mentioned before deciding who gets to have access to the „valuable personal information“ or simply distrusting the ISP, as any ISP could „unintentionally“ or intentionally do the same as Swisscom has done here. That wouldn‘t colide with privacy laws in any way. ISP XYZ could say; Well that Website is „dangerous for our users“, let‘s send it to our blackhole / blocking „service“! -> And then the ISP wonders why users are switching DNS Servers? Matter of fact! That‘s what it looks like IMP is also (atleast attempting to be) doing. (blocklist.imp.ch) This is the exact same behaviour as Swisscom in this case. Getting back on topic, there are many valid reasons. The provider in this case shouldn‘t judge upon this user behaviour. Users are totally free to use their own or public large DNS servers to avoid ISP blocking. ___ swinog mailing list -- swinog@lists.swinog.ch To unsubscribe send an email to swinog-le...@lists.swinog.ch
