[swinog] Re: Microsoft massive spam outbreak
Hi All, Honestly... if Microsoft is the Solution I'd rather keep my problem. Jokes aside... They are simply trying to play the "we are bigger than you"-game - which isn't really working. Never has. Tobias -- E = M * C^2 +/- 3db > On 23 Jan 2024, at 10:10, Marc SCHAEFER via swinog > wrote: > > Hello, > > On Mon, Jan 22, 2024 at 04:07:26PM +0100, Benoit Panizzon via swinog wrote: >> I am aware, Microsoft Office365 customer service blames this on us >> 'falsely and for no reason' blocking email from those ip addresses, and >> when presented with Evidence of what happened, they close the case with >> 'issue solved' which was never the case. > > I see, here you can see a more detailed feedback (mostly from users though): > > > https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/all/microsoft-outlook-365-server-blacklisted-by-spam/851d8fc4-11b9-445a-860b-1704897a02b2 > > A customer of mine was hit with his problem, and I suggested work-arounds and > to > show the customer customer's the extent of the problem. > > The obvious solution would be that everyone gets a Microsoft hosted mail > service and drops independant service providers :) > > NB: apart from the joke, it gets every day more complicated to manage an >independant SMTP provider, notably due to a very feelable concentration >of individuals, but also enterprises within one or two GAFAMs: > unfortunately >we no longer live in an Internet world where we can say "Microsoft is > irrelevant": >most universities and enterprises seem to have been lurred there. > ___ > swinog mailing list -- swinog@lists.swinog.ch > To unsubscribe send an email to swinog-le...@lists.swinog.ch > signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP ___ swinog mailing list -- swinog@lists.swinog.ch To unsubscribe send an email to swinog-le...@lists.swinog.ch
Re: [swinog] FDV Technische Vorschriften Netzqualität
Hi Jeroen, > On 12 Jun 2020, at 23:51 , Jeroen Massar wrote: > So I guess that all these providers will apply nice "QoS" to the well known > speedtest prefix, while still applying negative "QoS" for the competition, or > by not doing proper peering etc etc etc... Isn't that already the case for some providers? I always tell customers if you use Speedtest, the only thing you're measurement is going to tell you is: How fast is your Link to Speedtest (or whatever you use). This, most of the time, does not reflect any real-time scenarios... > Also, it seems that there are monopoly providers who are present at IXs and > won't peer then with other ISPs, thus not very useful all that, as the > speedtest will be amazing, but the actual packets to the other ISP will fly > over timbooktoo... AFAIR, we do already have this situation with UPC In the end... if you choose the wrong provider (especially as a service provider) and find out later you're in for some massive work (renumbering, most of the times). I am currently evaluating new links here since we're going to have FTTH soon. For private users it's relatively easy to change. Most of the time, the end-customer unfortunately won't really get what's wrong anyways. "I'm with so it must be good" is what I hear quite often. Tobias -- E = M * C^2 +/- 3.2db signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] mail.protection.outlook.com - dns issues?
Hi All, Anyone else having problems with customers using mail.protection.outlook.com or spf.protection.outlook.com in their SPF Records? Just asking (both records seem to be not resolvable at the moment...) Tobias -- E = M * C^2 +/- 3.2db signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] datacomm/vtxnet and quicknet/kfsb are missing TLS on their mailservers
Hi Tobi Well, you actually *can* technically enforce TLS. I'm not saying that it would make any... but if you want to revive don quixote one more time... yes, you can. I would be happy already if people would create working SPF records with enforcement for all domains (and stop using outlook and thinking of exchange as a technologically sound mailserver) Even big financial companies fail at creating SPF Records... and wonder why they have so many bounces. I do have mandatory TLS for some domains... but not as a global requirement (although... in a perfect world...) Tobias -- E = M * C^2 +/- 3.2db > On 2 Feb 2018, at 11:22 , Tobi wrote: > > You cannot force any other party to apply YOUR policy to THEIR systems. > "Your server your rules, but my server my rules" :-) > Furthermore mandatory tls can fail for a bunch of other reasons except > from "not offering tls at all" ex no common cipher/tls version can be > negotiated. > I do mandatory tls on my servers too, but not globally. Just for > selected rcpt-domains/next-hops > > Cheers > > tobi > > Am 02.02.2018 um 09:36 schrieb Peter Keel: >> Hi >> >> I get these errors: >> >> | TLS is required, but was not offered by host mx1.datacomm.ch[212.40.2.32] >> >> and >> >> | TLS is required, but was not offered by host relay.kfsb.ch[213.202.32.8] >> >> Since I've made TLS for SMTP mandatory. The respective admins of these >> servers >> might want finally at least enable voluntary TLS; some of their customers >> apparently would like to receive mails from my server. >> >> And by the way, RFC 2487 that is referred to for instance in the postfix >> manpage >> and stated that one must not make TLS mandatory has been obsoleted by RFC >> 3207. >> >> Cheers >> Seegras >> > > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] Someone from OVH on this list?
Hi All, Could someone (preferably from the NOC / ABUSE) Team from OVH please contact me off-list? Thanks in advance Kind Regards Tobias Göller -- E = M * C^2 +/- 3db signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Cablecom Winterthur blocking outgoing SMB connections?
Hi Jeroen, First of all, it's a transparent proxy so there's nothing like a proxy.pac or anything else for configuration. The proxy just sits there, listens and filters. Can be done with a variety of tools like squid, dansguardian and some more. The most advanced I know is the proxy combination Astaro uses at current. My installation is - by far - simpler. Second, I'm not talking about users who know what they're doing. The users I host are in fact users who have absolutely no clue about what they're doing at all. Some of them even struggle with right-clicks and left-clicks. If they click, it's mostly the very well known "klick-you-should-not-have-done". It's challenging for them to use E-Mail. And it's even more challenging for them not to open up a message of a sender they don't know. It's the sort of users AOL may be sending away because they think this kind of people should not be allowed to use electricity at all. And, to make one thing clear: I'm not serving 1000s of users. I'm, in fact, serving about 10-20 users in the neighborhood. As I get all the calls when something goes wrong anyway I have choosen the proxy to get rid of those IE, FF & MSN viruses. The virus-scanner included in the proxy is keeping out most of the stuff (and there's quite a lot according to the log-file). For skype this is not yet possible. But for "my" users, they're not even using it with the exception of about two or three of them. I absolutely agree with you that the solution I have is probably an (perhaps even excellent) solution for a problem that should never have existed in the first place. CU tobias ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Cablecom Winterthur blocking outgoing SMB connections?
Hi Jerome, Jeroen Massar wrote: > You are blocking port 80? Wow. Yes, partly. I force those users to use a proxy-system... works quite well. CU Tobias ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Cablecom Winterthur blocking outgoing SMB connections?
Hi, Peter Guhl Listenempfänger wrote: > That's incomming traffic, I guess. Blocking that is a good idea. True. I don't know Cablecom's network structure but I think blocking outgoing traffic will deny you to connect any other share, too (since you're not able to open a CIFS connection). > Blocking outgoing smb is not entirely pointless too since it stops scans > for open shares at the source. I agree with you that it's better to use > CIFS in a tunnel since it's everything else but secure. The users I have on my network are only allowed to access the really required ports. Direct SMTP and other funny things as well as SMB/CIFS is blocked by the firewall. As for MSN (ieck!) I only allow the chat-protocol - downloads are blocked. I really don't want them to open up shares over the internet especially since they really have no clue what they're doing (if they weren't my neighbours they'd probably use AOL). If they use VPN, however, this is not blocked in any way. CU Tobias ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Cablecom Winterthur blocking outgoing SMB connections?
Hi Benoit, Benoit Panizzon wrote: > Can somebody confirm that cablecom blocks outgoing smb connections from > customers in Winterthur? No, I actually can't. But I would very much appreciate it if it were the case. If you have a closer look at your firewall-log you will probably see why. CIFS is not a protocol I would use for exchanging files over the internet directly. I don't care if there's a vpn below - but direct CIFS is not what I would recommend at all. I have a current malicious traffic of about 100KBit/s coming from some chinese ISPs... most time they try to accesss ports 138/139 and 445. CU Tobias ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Windows-Pizza
Hi All, Peter Rohrer wrote: > Am Montag, 26. November 2007 18:43 schrieb Andre Timmermann: >> anyone want a pizza? >> >> http://www.pizza-joker.com/ >> >> You just can order a pizza if you use windows internet exploiter. If >> you dare to use another browser, you will get insulted: >> > I just started a Windows 2k with IE 6 in a VirtualBox to see the website > and the site of the creators (novalku.com) the way it should look for > the 96% which use MSIE. > Well, it is horrible, looks like it was designed in the last century > (only without an "Under Construction" Button). Wow, you must have a really good health... my eyeballs were just popping' out after two seconds... still searching the second one! > This must be either some stupid projekt of modern art (they advise you > to disable the popup and phishing-protection in IE) or these guys are > completely insane. Funny thing is that the "world-standard" and "technology leadership" is prohibiting them the use of any 8-bit character as umlauts :-) > >> My colleague told me, that this is a REAL pizza-restaurant. I wonder >> if they treat the customers the same in the restaurant;) >> > You may get kicked out of the restaurant if you don't look like the > average Joe. ;-) No, but the pizza will look more like a kebab and it will be served by a penguin :-) CU Tobias P.S: The site designed for IE isn't running on a IIS, by the way! See: http://www.pizza-joker.com/idiocy-inside.html And the Admin doesn't seem to really care about security... ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Test your Browser
Hello... Martin Ebnoether wrote: > No, it's not a bitmap, it's pure html. You're wrong. It *IS* a bitmap - but not a BMP file. CU Tobias -- 09:F9:11:02:9D:74:E3:5B:D8:41:56:C5:63:56:88:C0 ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] spamhaus.org
Hello, Adrian Ulrich wrote: > Hi Tobias, > >> I've stopped using spamhaus.org when they started blocking 127.0.0.1 > > Didn't notice this and currently it is not listed. You're right. It's no longer listed. I took the list out more than a year ago. > Do you have any 'evidence' (or references) ;-) (Mailing-list postings, etc) At current: no. >> (what a very nice idea if you have a system that sends logs... very clever). > > IMO this is your own fault because our MTA is configured incorrectly. Not entirely. There are some MTAs around where you can't switch this off. Mostly they run on some kind of broken or embedded os... I absolutely agree: This is not how it should be implemented. However, if this is the only fault a tool has and the rest is ingenious, I'd still use this tool instead of not having a lot of functionality. CU Tobias -- 09:F9:11:02:9D:74:E3:5B:D8:41:56:C5:63:56:88:C0 ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] spamhaus.org
well, it's about a very efficient way for spamhaus to decrease their traffic... because they'll be obsolete within a short amount of time (DNSBL providers behaving that way can't be considered professionals and therefor can't be used for productive systems). I've stopped using spamhaus.org when they started blocking 127.0.0.1 (what a very nice idea if you have a system that sends logs... very clever). CU Tobias Andreas Anderson wrote: > Hi Guys. > > any opinions on the game [1] that spamhaus.org is playing? Is there > someone left who uses them to reject mails on smtp level? > > > > Regards, > > > Andreas > > > [1] http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/91587 > > _ > Live Search delivers results the way you like it. Try live.com now! > http://www.live.com > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog -- 09:F9:11:02:9D:74:E3:5B:D8:41:56:C5:63:56:88:C0 ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: AW: AW: AW: [swinog] Whitelist website
Hello, Radek Mrskos wrote: > Ok, but this is exactly what do not belongs to this list. *.mail.ru (many > others also) is a spamer domain. > If the postmaster of *.rr.com, *.net.br, *.com.br calls you to enter his > ranges, will you enter it? Depends. If they give me the ranges of their servers: Why not? As long as they provide the dialup / dyn ranges, too? BTW: You're free to start something like this. Maybe others will join. Unique Selling Point may be a buzzword but it *can* help. > PS: Was the voice of this mistress at least erotic? ;) Hmm, no idea how an email can have a voice. CU! ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: AW: [swinog] Whitelist website
Well, In my point of view this makes about the same sense as if we'd take the decision to start up something like a new standard for inter-ISP-communications (ever thought about IPv7, maybe IPv7.25?) - for switzerland only. This would just move the source of the problem to another point - but would not help solve the problem: SPAM. Sorry, but the internet is a medium almost without any fences and doors. The whitelist would be enhanced soon by entries for german ISPs who are partners of swiss ISPs, soon then there will be all german ISPs in (and the french, and the italian, and so on). At the end we would have a 4-TB Oracle Database with the IPs of any ISPs mail server system - just for a whitelist... hmmm. Why don't we start up a second RIPE? Sponsors? The swinog mailinglist has a whitelist already - and if you're trying to reach someone participating you already have two ways of how to get in touch with who you want to contact: direct mail or via list. CU Tobias Radek Mrskos wrote: > Something like whitelist.swinog.ch - swinog controlled whitelist swiss > ISP only > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Im Auftrag von Tobias Goeller > Gesendet: Dienstag, 27. März 2007 14:38 > An: swinog@swinog.ch; [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Betreff: Re: [swinog] Whitelist website > > > Hello, > > Given the fact that there are many ISPs who volontarily provide IP's for > Spamming purposes this won't work. Given the fact that there are ISPs > like T-Online, where SPAM IS a problem, this might fail. > > Sorry, but I don't think that this would work at all... > > CU > Tobias > > > Radek Mrskos wrote: >> What about a "whitelist" website, every ISP could enter the IPs of his > MTA's >> and everybody could use for his whitelisting? >> >> Radek Mrskos Email[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> volume.chTel:+41 43 534 40 24 >> Baechlerstr. 12 Mob:+41 79 219 68 66 >> CH-8802 KilchbergFax:+41 86079 2196 866 >> PGP:0x8CB69F6D URL:http://volume.ch >> >> >> >> ___ >> swinog mailing list >> swinog@lists.swinog.ch >> http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Whitelist website
Hello, Given the fact that there are many ISPs who volontarily provide IP's for Spamming purposes this won't work. Given the fact that there are ISPs like T-Online, where SPAM IS a problem, this might fail. Sorry, but I don't think that this would work at all... CU Tobias Radek Mrskos wrote: > What about a "whitelist" website, every ISP could enter the IPs of his MTA's > and everybody could use for his whitelisting? > > Radek Mrskos Email[EMAIL PROTECTED] > volume.ch Tel:+41 43 534 40 24 > Baechlerstr. 12 Mob:+41 79 219 68 66 > CH-8802 Kilchberg Fax:+41 86079 2196 866 > PGP:0x8CB69F6DURL:http://volume.ch > > > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: AW: [swinog] Prevent Bounces from MS-Exchange?
'llo, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Why would you subject internally generated mail to blacklist > processing at all? good question. Problem is that my central mail-relay is shown to the outside (as a mail relay is supposed to be) - and it generates some triggers and alert mails upon special events (i.e. ssh probes etc.). And if those mails don't slip through... well... > I find it a bit questionable to use any blacklists > in a binary fashion (unless you're _really_ 100% in line with their > listing policy, which I'm normally not unless I compose the list > myself;-)). Well, this is a bit difficult if you're running a mail system with about 60 messages / minute for private purposes... > Assign a hit a weight, and only drop if you're above a > treshold (and if your recipient mailbox agrees to such drops, or > the threshold). And certainly only do this with traffic from the > "Most Evil Internet", not from trusted networks... Just my $0.02;-) that's the problem... my central mail relay is processing a lot evil content :-) CU Tobias ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: AW: [swinog] Prevent Bounces from MS-Exchange?
Hi all, Tobias Orlamuende wrote: > Anyway IMHO classifying mailservers as "spam"-servers just because of > auto-responders is one thing why I would never use blacklists like spamcop. > Imagine you have customers with so-called "catch-all" or "multidrop" accounts > which are also using auto-responders. I cannot figure out a solution for this > scenario without getting listed at spamcop at their current policy. > If somebody knows a solution for qmail+vpopmail+chkuser => Please tell! Using > another server for sending bounces/auto-responders is IMHO not a solution. > Spamcop again... I really don't know what they're on. There are lots of DNSBL servers that do a good job, spamcop ist just about to drive all it's users crazy... I kicked Spamcop when they started blacklisting 127.0.0.1 so that no system logs could be sent out by E-Mail... CU Tobias ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Cablecom Internet Port 25
Hallo... Xaver Aerni wrote: Hat die Cablecom den Ausgang auf für SMTP raus neu gesperrt. Wir haben diverse Hispeed Kunden, die Mails nicht mehr per SMTP über unsere Server senden können. Zur Zeit sind es 3 Reklamationen alles CC Kunden kann ich mir kaum vorstellen, wenn ich mir mein AV-Log so ansehe. da hat's diverse infizierte CCom-Hispeed rechner darunter - immer etwa die gleichen. Leider reagiert CCom auf abuse meldungen nicht... ausser dem autoresponder passiert nix. Ich hab' jetzt seit einer Woche so nen Fall - no reaction. CU Tobias -- Tobias Goeller E = M * C^2 +/- 3db SkypeIN: +1 (415) 691-6170 ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages
Quoting Marco Huggenberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: 2005/12/6, Nik Hug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Hopefully Santa has its VPN from Telenor and not TDC otherwise this will lead to a reindeer-grounding tonight. Hmm Nik! Don't you know that sunrise has outsourced santa: http://www.ianai.net/jokes/BangaloreSanta.jpeg Well... this may explain why the links are broken: Overload because of to much traffic to bangalore :-) CU Tobias -- Tobias Göller E = m * c^2 +/- 3db ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: AW: [swinog] couple of sunrise dsl outages
Hello... Quoting Fredy Kuenzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Viktor Steinmann wrote: Implementation cycles at Sunrise are now > 3 weeks for a 30 minutes BGP4 configuration job. Well, I suggest this is a CFO-Problem. If there's no budget for nothing, nothing will happen at all... at least: nothing positive. And, by the way, there are other companies having problems with DSL, too... CU Tobias -- Tobias Göller E = m * c^2 +/- 3db ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] swiss jurisprudence regarding spam
'llo! Quoting Attila Kinali <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: On Wed, 9 Nov 2005 16:22:43 +0100 The regio protection is already declared illegal in Switzerland. Or why do you think you can here to buy a region-free dvd player while you cannot in Germany ? [..] BTW: It's also illegal to sell copy protected music CDs that carry the compact disc label[1], as they do not conform to the compact disc standard. Please don't mix those up, they're 100% independent each from another. The first thing is a legal fact valid for switzerland, it is swiss law (iirc "Verbraucherrecht"). The second is a copyright / patent issue brought up by philipps who is the owner of the Compact-Disc standard. All others using this label are licensing this standard. Since those Copy-Protected CDs do not comply with this standard, Philipps sees a patent-violation in this. CU Tobias -- Tobias Göller E = m * c^2 +/- 3db ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Auskunft Polizei
Gabriel Ambuehl wrote: > Interessantes Detail: wenn ich das (übrigens sehr gute!) Mail von von > Tonnerre im Thunderbird öffnen will, crasht es mir (und zwar jedes Mal). Hmmm? > Setzt sonst noch jemand Thunderbird ein und kann das reproduzieren? Ja. Nein :-) Gruss Tobias P.S: V1.0.2 Linux x86. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Auskunft Polizei
Hello, Joschua Brunner wrote: > Ich erhielt kürzlich von Deutschen Polizisten ein Auskunftsbegehren (Per > Mail übber die GL) über einen unseren Freemail user (Letze IP Adresse). > Das vorgehen war äusserst unprofessionel welches mich stutzig machte. Dann würde ich keine Auskunft geben. > Wie handhabt Ihr das? was verlangt Ihr von den behörden um sich zu > identifizieren? Gerade eben, hat die GL wieder nach einer IP verlangt. > Vermutlich wieder auf verlangen von ausländischen behörden... Meiner Meinung nach dürfte die dt. Polizei solche Dinge gar nicht im Ausland eintreiben. Der Server steht - so wie ich Dich verstanden habe - in der Schweiz. Das heisst, die dt. Polizei müsste ein Rechthilfegesuch in der Schweiz stellen und die zuständige schweizer Behörde müsste hier die Daten einsammeln. ... das wäre sonst in meinem Verständnis in etwa so, wie wenn die Badenwürttembergische Polizei einen Radarkasten vor dem Gubrist aufstellen würde oder die deutsche Polizei in der Schweiz nen Einbrecher festnehmen wollte... Ich bin mir nichtmal sicher, ob Du überhaupt solche Daten ohne Rechtshilfegesuch ins Ausland geben *darfst* (Datenschutz). In meinen Augen hat die Polizeistelle in Deutschland hier ihre Gebietsrechte verletzt... Gruss Tobias ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] swisscom dsl down?
'llo... Martin Ebnoether wrote: > I wonder when the first customer calls to ask, what > car he should buy at Züri West (our neighbors). ... well... that's the next level of wholesale :-) Rgds Tobias ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] ohh, what a surprise: Breitband viel zu teuer
Andre Oppermann wrote: Tobias Goeller wrote: Andre Oppermann wrote: 100% too. That leaves 17.4% for the ISP to cover all his costs including Internet bandwidth, investments for routers, helpdesk, I think that's a good point. The ISP has to cover the Bandwith costs... I think my provider is not too happy with me either - I have about 2-4GB / day and pay CHF ~200/month That depends on your ISP. If it's Bluewin or Cablecom it doesn't really matter. If it's some other ADSL ISP then yes, you are not the ideal customer. ;-) ok, in that case I will add some more customers to reach the 20GB/day :-) ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] ohh, what a surprise: Breitband viel zu teuer
Andre Oppermann wrote: 100% too. That leaves 17.4% for the ISP to cover all his costs including Internet bandwidth, investments for routers, helpdesk, I think that's a good point. The ISP has to cover the Bandwith costs... I think my provider is not too happy with me either - I have about 2-4GB / day and pay CHF ~200/month CU Tobias ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: Antw: Re: [swinog] New member ;) (Abwesenheit - Out of Office)
Roelof Speekenbrink wrote: I regret not to be able to answer your mail until the 21st March. In urgent cases please contact Ms. C. Sooder ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Anyone... could you forward all replies to Ms. Sooder??? :-) I *love* ooo-messages! ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] New member ;)
Peter Keel wrote: * on the Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 04:34:22PM +0100, Tobias Goeller wrote: I originally meant the dead-tree version of the bible... but thanks :-) You mean the other one: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/076453162X/ref=rm_item Not exactly... :-) CU Tobias ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] New member ;)
Peter Keel wrote: * on the Tue, Mar 01, 2005 at 04:22:50PM +0100, Tobias Goeller wrote: Well, I know it's in the bible (as my name is, too). But the last thing I expect from techies is that they even have this book :-) apt-get install bible-kjv-text and of course you should do apt-get install anarchism then as well. I originally meant the dead-tree version of the bible... but thanks :-) CU Tobias ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
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Salome Baumann wrote: Tobias Goeller wrote: Salome Baumann wrote: Funny... People don't seem to know operas at all, huh? *smile* yes. Ok - my parents found the name in the bible... so people don't know operas AND the bible ;) Well, I know it's in the bible (as my name is, too). But the last thing I expect from techies is that they even have this book :-) CU Tobias ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
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Salome Baumann wrote: ;) That's not the reason why I mentioned my gender... It's just my firstname... sooo many people think that I'm a guy so I started to > ... so... Funny... People don't seem to know operas at all, huh? CU Tobias ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
