[swinog] Anyone from Green here?
One of my customers has just been told he needs to pay to get a DNS reverse map entry for thei Green ADSL line with fixed IP. Is that really true?? /Per Jessen, Herrliberg ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Anyone from Green here?
Marc SCHAEFER wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:37:35AM +0200, Per Jessen wrote: One of my customers has just been told he needs to pay to get a DNS reverse map entry for thei Green ADSL line with fixed IP. Is that really true?? I had a similar query lately, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied that with MPS1 (1 IP address) they won't do it, they will do it only for MPS8 and with a delegation. That's the answer my customer got too. That's a pity, but it's how marketing works. It's not only very poor marketing, it's incredibly arrogant. Selling a static IP and then charging extra for the reverse mapping ... /Per Jessen, Herrliberg ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Anyone from Green here?
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:37:35AM +0200, Per Jessen wrote: One of my customers has just been told he needs to pay to get a DNS reverse map entry for thei Green ADSL line with fixed IP. Is that really true?? I had a similar query lately, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied that with MPS1 (1 IP address) they won't do it, they will do it only for MPS8 and with a delegation. That's a pity, but it's how marketing works. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Anyone from Green here?
If the reverse mapping points to some valid A record, why do you need to change it? There aren't many applications that really depend on the reverse name - for most of the things it's enough that the reverse name is a valid one. - Original Message From: Per Jessen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 11:29:04 AM Subject: Re: [swinog] Anyone from Green here? Marc SCHAEFER wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:37:35AM +0200, Per Jessen wrote: One of my customers has just been told he needs to pay to get a DNS reverse map entry for thei Green ADSL line with fixed IP. Is that really true?? I had a similar query lately, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied that with MPS1 (1 IP address) they won't do it, they will do it only for MPS8 and with a delegation. That's the answer my customer got too. That's a pity, but it's how marketing works. It's not only very poor marketing, it's incredibly arrogant. Selling a static IP and then charging extra for the reverse mapping ... /Per Jessen, Herrliberg ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Anyone from Green here?
Hey Stan There aren't many applications that really depend on the reverse name - for most of the things it's enough that the reverse name is a valid one. You never tried to operate a mailserver behind a DSL-connection yet, right? :) -- Best regards, Roman Hochuli Operations Manager nexellent ag Saegereistrasse 29 CH-8152 Glattbrugg Phone: +41 44 562 30 40 Fax: +41 44 562 30 41 URL: www.nexellent.ch X-NCC-RegID: ch.nexellent Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality. -- Jules de Gaultier ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Anyone from Green here?
well, I used to support customers which were running mail servers behind a broadband connection. Most spam filters and blacklists like SORBS check the reverse naming, and if it doesn't have words like cable, ppp, dynamic and such, it's quite safe to work with it. It just has to have some decent name, but the name shouldn't be necessarily customizable by the user. Anyway, who's going to send email directly from a broadband connection, instead of using the ISP's relay? :-) - Original Message From: Roman Hochuli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 12:20:57 PM Subject: Re: [swinog] Anyone from Green here? Hey Stan There aren't many applications that really depend on the reverse name - for most of the things it's enough that the reverse name is a valid one. You never tried to operate a mailserver behind a DSL-connection yet, right? :) -- Best regards, Roman Hochuli Operations Manager nexellent ag Saegereistrasse 29 CH-8152 Glattbrugg Phone: +41 44 562 30 40 Fax: +41 44 562 30 41 URL:www.nexellent.ch X-NCC-RegID: ch.nexellent Imagination is the one weapon in the war against reality. -- Jules de Gaultier ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Anyone from Green here?
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: Anyway, who's going to send email directly from a broadband connection, instead of using the ISP's relay? :-) Provided everything is properly set up, why shouldn't they? /Per Jessen, Herrliberg ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Anyone from Green here?
Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: If the reverse mapping points to some valid A record, why do you need to change it? In this case, the reverse lookup returns something like zux000-nnn-nnn.adsl.green.ch. The customer is (quite reasonably) running a mailserver on it, and would like the reverse mapping to be set up properly. /Per Jessen, Herrliberg ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Anyone from Green here?
We had asked several time green.ch for a delegation for a MPS8 and MPS16 contract - and they denied it. So submitted a list of hosts to be added to their DNS for adding PTRs. No reply, and still only the default PTR entries... Has anything changed in this since the TIC merger? -Kurt. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marc SCHAEFER Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2008 11:25 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [swinog] Anyone from Green here? On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 10:37:35AM +0200, Per Jessen wrote: One of my customers has just been told he needs to pay to get a DNS reverse map entry for thei Green ADSL line with fixed IP. Is that really true?? I had a similar query lately, and [EMAIL PROTECTED] replied that with MPS1 (1 IP address) they won't do it, they will do it only for MPS8 and with a delegation. That's a pity, but it's how marketing works. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Anyone from Green here?
Marc SCHAEFER wrote: It's not only very poor marketing, it's incredibly arrogant. Selling a static IP and then charging extra for the reverse mapping ... That was reason enough for me to change provider. There are other ISPs on this list which are RIPE compliant, less arrogant and more customer oriented. Daniele No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.169 / Virus Database: 270.6.19/1665 - Release Date: 9/10/2008 7:00 PM This e-mail, any associated files and the information contained in them are confidential and is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you have received this message in error please notify the originator and delete the email immediately. The unauthorised use, disclosure, copying or alteration of this message is strictly forbidden. E-mails to and from the company are monitored for operational reasons and in accordance with lawful business practices. Any opinions expressed are those of the individual and do not necessarily represent the views of the company. The company does not conclude contracts by email and all negotiations are subject to contract. We make every effort to maintain our network free from computer viruses but accept no responsibility for any viruses which might be transferred by this e-mail. ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Anyone from Green here?
Salut, Stanislav, On Thu, 11 Sep 2008 03:54:47 -0700 (PDT), Stanislav Sinyagin wrote: Anyway, who's going to send email directly from a broadband connection, instead of using the ISP's relay? :-) The case of an ISP's mail server accepting mail originating from a non-ISP address (e.g. not @tiscali.ch for tiscali, just as an example) to a non-local address is not very common as far as I can tell. That may well be a reason why one might have to do it. Alternatively, one can of course get some fully managed solution but that's not what you might want if you do special magic or don't trust anyone or have whatever other legitimate reason. Tonnerre signature.asc Description: PGP signature ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
