[swinog] Problems reaching large Websites

2008-01-28 Thread Mike Kellenberger
Hi all

Anbody else having problems to reach large websites, such as
www.microsoft.com or www.dell.com? Problems in or to the akamai network?

Trying from AS13030 (Init7) here...

Cheers,

Mike

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Re: [swinog] Problems reaching large Websites

2008-01-28 Thread Silvan Gebhardt

dell.com  working perfectly, from init7-VDSL
Am 28.01.2008 um 17:20 schrieb Mike Kellenberger:


Hi all

Anbody else having problems to reach large websites, such as
www.microsoft.com or www.dell.com? Problems in or to the akamai  
network?


Trying from AS13030 (Init7) here...

Cheers,

Mike

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Re: [swinog] Problems reaching large Websites

2008-01-28 Thread Steven Glogger

hm... from AS12429 its working fine.
your problem sounds for me like a MTU and/or firewall problem...

-steven


Mike Kellenberger schrieb:

Hi all

Anbody else having problems to reach large websites, such as
www.microsoft.com or www.dell.com? Problems in or to the akamai network?

Trying from AS13030 (Init7) here...

Cheers,

Mike


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RE: [swinog] Problems reaching large Websites

2008-01-28 Thread Jérôme Tissières
Hi,

All is working good from VTX. 
Also with Akamai network and Akamaized content.


Cheers,
Jerome
 

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> Hi all
> 
> Anbody else having problems to reach large websites, such as 
> www.microsoft.com or www.dell.com? Problems in or to the 
> akamai network?
> 
> Trying from AS13030 (Init7) here...
> 
> Cheers,
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AW: [swinog] Problems reaching large Websites

2008-01-28 Thread Mike Kellenberger
dell.com works, but try any other host that is being contacted while loading 
www.dell.com and is hosted by akamai, such as i.dell.com


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dell.com  working perfectly, from init7-VDSL
Am 28.01.2008 um 17:20 schrieb Mike Kellenberger:

> Hi all
>
> Anbody else having problems to reach large websites, such as
> www.microsoft.com or www.dell.com? Problems in or to the akamai  
> network?
>
> Trying from AS13030 (Init7) here...
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mike
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Re: [swinog] Problems reaching large Websites

2008-01-28 Thread Per Jessen
Mike Kellenberger wrote:

> Hi all
> 
> Anbody else having problems to reach large websites, such as
> www.microsoft.com or www.dell.com? Problems in or to the akamai
> network?

I've been unable to get to www.dell.ch since sometime yesterday at
least.

 

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Re: [swinog] Problems reaching large Websites

2008-01-28 Thread Peter Rohrer
Hi Mike

Am Montag, 28. Januar 2008 17:20 schrieb Mike Kellenberger:
> Anbody else having problems to reach large websites, such as
> www.microsoft.com or www.dell.com? Problems in or to the akamai
> network?
>
> Trying from AS13030 (Init7) here...
>
I am also Init7 ADSL customer, and it looks similar from my side, 
reaching microsoft or dell as well as ebay.com or ikea.com is nearly 
impossible.
I restarted my DSL-Modem and tried it on two Computers with different 
opearating systems, but it was still not working.
I now switched to my Sunrise Backup-Link over EDGE, and now everything 
seesm to work fine again (although it is a bit slow), so there must be 
a problem in the init7 network.

Greetingd
Peter
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Re: [swinog] Problems reaching large Websites

2008-01-28 Thread Fabian Wenk

Hello

Steven Glogger wrote:

hm... from AS12429 its working fine.
your problem sounds for me like a MTU and/or firewall problem...


I don't think so, I could also not reaching http://www.sf.tv/ 
around 20:00, but now it is working again.


During the outage (hop 3 + 4 are ch-zrh01a-ra1-ge-1-1-0.aorta.net 
[213.46.171.49]):


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ traceroute www.sf.tv
traceroute: Warning: www.sf.tv has multiple addresses; using 
80.67.84.75
traceroute to www.sf.tv.edgesuite.net (80.67.84.75), 64 hops max, 
40 byte packets

 1  gate2.home4u.ch (62.2.85.177)  2.090 ms  1.683 ms  1.139 ms
 2  cc-10-179-64-1.home4u.ch (10.179.64.1)  8.117 ms  6.147 ms 
4.760 ms

 3  * * *
 4  * * *
 5  tix2-nap.netarch.akamai.com (194.42.48.48)  15.525 ms  5.481 
ms  6.043 ms

 6  * * *
 7  * *^C
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ host www.sf.tv
www.sf.tv is an alias for www.sf.tv.edgesuite.net.
www.sf.tv.edgesuite.net is an alias for a1133.g.akamai.net.
a1133.g.akamai.net has address 80.67.84.75
a1133.g.akamai.net has address 80.67.84.74
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$


Now it looks different:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ traceroute www.sf.tv
traceroute: Warning: www.sf.tv has multiple addresses; using 
212.243.221.214
traceroute to www.sf.tv.edgesuite.net (212.243.221.214), 64 hops 
max, 40 byte packets

 1  gate2.home4u.ch (62.2.85.177)  47.432 ms  1.574 ms  1.106 ms
 2  cc-10-179-64-1.home4u.ch (10.179.64.1)  32.915 ms  4.358 ms 
8.884 ms

 3  * * *
 4  * * *
 5  i79tix-015-gig2-4.bb.ip-plus.net (164.128.22.9)  17.091 ms 
20.524 ms  9.976 ms
 6  i79zhh-015-xxx1-4.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.73)  18.855 ms 
 7.312 ms  25.770 ms
 7  i79zhh-005-gig6-0x2.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.45)  23.617 
ms  6.916 ms  5.532 ms
 8  i79zhh-101-vla201.bb.ip-plus.net (138.187.129.42)  7.519 ms 
6.321 ms  7.802 ms

 9  212.243.221.214 (212.243.221.214)  16.905 ms  8.681 ms  7.759 ms
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ host www.sf.tv
www.sf.tv is an alias for www.sf.tv.edgesuite.net.
www.sf.tv.edgesuite.net is an alias for a1133.g.akamai.net.
a1133.g.akamai.net has address 212.243.221.214
a1133.g.akamai.net has address 212.243.221.208
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$

Seems really to have been a problem somewhere on Akamai's network, 
also i.dell.com does resolv the same now:


[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ host i.dell.com
i.dell.com is an alias for img.dell-cidr.akadns.net.
img.dell-cidr.akadns.net is an alias for img.dell.com.edgesuite.net.
img.dell.com.edgesuite.net is an alias for a569.g.akamai.net.
a569.g.akamai.net has address 212.243.221.208
a569.g.akamai.net has address 212.243.221.214
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$


Could it be possible, that edgesuite.net/akamai.net is doing 
anycast [1] with its IP addresses? This would explain why it could 
be reached from some places but not from others.


  [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anycast


bye
Fabian

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Re: [swinog] Problems reaching large Websites

2008-01-28 Thread Adrian Senn

Same problem here

tracert www.sf.tv

from home
Routenverfolgung zu a1133.g.akamai.net [80.67.84.74]  über maximal 30 
Abschnitte

:

  1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms  smc.senntec.ch [10.1.1.1]
  2 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms  eth0.r1.senn.ch [213.144.132.49]
  312 ms13 ms13 ms  lo0.lns1.bbcs.init7.net [213.144.128.205]
  413 ms17 ms23 ms  r1.core.init7.net [213.144.128.1]
  512 ms13 ms13 ms  tix2-nap.netarch.akamai.com [194.42.48.48]
  6 *


from switch

 Traceroute to 80.67.84.74

traceroute to 80.67.84.74 (80.67.84.74), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
 1  swiCS5-V108 (130.59.108.5)  0.267 ms  0.204 ms  0.194 ms
 2  swiCS3-10GE-1-3 (130.59.15.189)  0.248 ms  0.212 ms  0.214 ms
 3  swiEZ2-10GE-5-2 (130.59.36.18)  0.221 ms  0.212 ms  0.219 ms
 4  swiIX1-10GE-1-1 (130.59.36.250)  0.386 ms  0.354 ms  0.340 ms
 5  tix2-nap.netarch.akamai.com (194.42.48.48)  0.509 ms  0.504 ms 
0.323 ms

 6  * * *



; <<>> DiG 9.3.1 <<>> www.sf.tv @213.144.132.52
; (1 server found)
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 53005
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 9, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.sf.tv. IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.sf.tv.  1779IN  CNAME   www.sf.tv.edgesuite.net.
www.sf.tv.edgesuite.net. 21579  IN  CNAME   a1133.g.akamai.net.
a1133.g.akamai.net. 20  IN  A   80.67.84.74
a1133.g.akamai.net. 20  IN  A   80.67.84.75

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
g.akamai.net.   1778IN  NS  n5g.akamai.net.
g.akamai.net.   1778IN  NS  n6g.akamai.net.
g.akamai.net.   1778IN  NS  n7g.akamai.net.
g.akamai.net.   1778IN  NS  n8g.akamai.net.
g.akamai.net.   1778IN  NS  n0g.akamai.net.
g.akamai.net.   1778IN  NS  n1g.akamai.net.
g.akamai.net.   1778IN  NS  n2g.akamai.net.
g.akamai.net.   1778IN  NS  n3g.akamai.net.
g.akamai.net.   1778IN  NS  n4g.akamai.net.

;; Query time: 574 msec
;; SERVER: 213.144.132.52#53(213.144.132.52)
;; WHEN: Mon Jan 28 23:58:31 2008
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 287
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AW: [swinog] Problems reaching large Websites

2008-01-28 Thread Mike Kellenberger
was ok a few minutes ago, now the problem is back...

tracert www.sf.tv

Tracing route to a1133.g.akamai.net [80.67.84.75]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  111 ms<1 ms<1 ms  192.168.10.1
  2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms  r1.escapenet.init7.net [82.197.167.89]
  3 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms  82.197.174.1
  4 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms  r1.core.init7.net [213.144.128.1]
  5 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms  tix2-nap.netarch.akamai.com [194.42.48.48]
  6 *


tracert i.dell.com

Tracing route to a569.g.akamai.net [80.67.84.74]
over a maximum of 30 hops:

  1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  192.168.10.1
  2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms  r1.escapenet.init7.net [82.197.167.89]
  3 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms  82.197.174.1
  4 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms  r1.core.init7.net [213.144.128.1]
  5 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms  tix2-nap.netarch.akamai.com [194.42.48.48]
  6 ** 



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Betreff: Re: [swinog] Problems reaching large Websites

Same problem here

tracert www.sf.tv

from home
Routenverfolgung zu a1133.g.akamai.net [80.67.84.74]  über maximal 30 
Abschnitte
:

   1 1 ms 1 ms 1 ms  smc.senntec.ch [10.1.1.1]
   2 3 ms 3 ms 3 ms  eth0.r1.senn.ch [213.144.132.49]
   312 ms13 ms13 ms  lo0.lns1.bbcs.init7.net [213.144.128.205]
   413 ms17 ms23 ms  r1.core.init7.net [213.144.128.1]
   512 ms13 ms13 ms  tix2-nap.netarch.akamai.com [194.42.48.48]
   6 *


from switch

  Traceroute to 80.67.84.74

traceroute to 80.67.84.74 (80.67.84.74), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets
  1  swiCS5-V108 (130.59.108.5)  0.267 ms  0.204 ms  0.194 ms
  2  swiCS3-10GE-1-3 (130.59.15.189)  0.248 ms  0.212 ms  0.214 ms
  3  swiEZ2-10GE-5-2 (130.59.36.18)  0.221 ms  0.212 ms  0.219 ms
  4  swiIX1-10GE-1-1 (130.59.36.250)  0.386 ms  0.354 ms  0.340 ms
  5  tix2-nap.netarch.akamai.com (194.42.48.48)  0.509 ms  0.504 ms 
0.323 ms
  6  * * *



; <<>> DiG 9.3.1 <<>> www.sf.tv @213.144.132.52
; (1 server found)
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 53005
;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 4, AUTHORITY: 9, ADDITIONAL: 0

;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.sf.tv. IN  A

;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.sf.tv.  1779IN  CNAME   www.sf.tv.edgesuite.net.
www.sf.tv.edgesuite.net. 21579  IN  CNAME   a1133.g.akamai.net.
a1133.g.akamai.net. 20  IN  A   80.67.84.74
a1133.g.akamai.net. 20  IN  A   80.67.84.75

;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
g.akamai.net.   1778IN  NS  n5g.akamai.net.
g.akamai.net.   1778IN  NS  n6g.akamai.net.
g.akamai.net.   1778IN  NS  n7g.akamai.net.
g.akamai.net.   1778IN  NS  n8g.akamai.net.
g.akamai.net.   1778IN  NS  n0g.akamai.net.
g.akamai.net.   1778IN  NS  n1g.akamai.net.
g.akamai.net.   1778IN  NS  n2g.akamai.net.
g.akamai.net.   1778IN  NS  n3g.akamai.net.
g.akamai.net.   1778IN  NS  n4g.akamai.net.

;; Query time: 574 msec
;; SERVER: 213.144.132.52#53(213.144.132.52)
;; WHEN: Mon Jan 28 23:58:31 2008
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 287
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Re: AW: [swinog] Problems reaching large Websites

2008-01-28 Thread Adrian Ulrich

> dell.com works, but try any other host that is being contacted while loading 
> www.dell.com and is hosted by akamai, such as i.dell.com

No problem via Bluewin-DSL:

$ telnet i.dell.com 80
Trying 212.243.223.139...
Connected to i.dell.com (212.243.223.139).
Escape character is '^]'.
HEAD / HTTP/1.0

HTTP/1.0 400 Bad Request
Server: AkamaiGHost
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/html
Content-Length: 187
Expires: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:05:56 GMT
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 17:05:56 GMT
Connection: close


(Bad Request ? WTF?)

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Re: AW: [swinog] Problems reaching large Websites

2008-01-28 Thread Nicolas Strina
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Hello,

Works perfectly from here.

Cu,

Nico

> was ok a few minutes ago, now the problem is back...
> 
> tracert www.sf.tv
> 
> Tracing route to a1133.g.akamai.net [80.67.84.75]
> over a maximum of 30 hops:
> 
>   111 ms<1 ms<1 ms  192.168.10.1
>   2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms  r1.escapenet.init7.net [82.197.167.89]
>   3 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms  82.197.174.1
>   4 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms  r1.core.init7.net [213.144.128.1]
>   5 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms  tix2-nap.netarch.akamai.com [194.42.48.48]
>   6 *
> 
> 
> tracert i.dell.com
> 
> Tracing route to a569.g.akamai.net [80.67.84.74]
> over a maximum of 30 hops:
> 
>   1<1 ms<1 ms<1 ms  192.168.10.1
>   2 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms  r1.escapenet.init7.net [82.197.167.89]
>   3 7 ms 7 ms 7 ms  82.197.174.1
>   4 8 ms 7 ms 7 ms  r1.core.init7.net [213.144.128.1]
>   5 8 ms 8 ms 8 ms  tix2-nap.netarch.akamai.com [194.42.48.48]
>   6 ** 
> 
> 
> 
> Freundliche Grüsse
> 

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Re: AW: [swinog] Problems reaching large Websites

2008-01-28 Thread Per Jessen
Mike Kellenberger wrote:

> was ok a few minutes ago, now the problem is back...
> 

Access to dell.ch, ikea.com and sf.tv are now all fine from here
(easynet).



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