Re: [swinog] Suche nach neuem Registrar
On 23.01.15 21:38, Beat Siegenthaler wrote: Hi all, to quote myself: > I know i am on the wrong place here for this, but i want simply the same > "swissness service" i had from switch. It seems i have another year to let the free market registrars do their homework! Instead of the advice to transfer my .ch i get a letter from Switch with a new invoice for renewal. For me that's ok! ;-) Beat ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Suche nach neuem Registrar
Thank you for pointing that out - maybe for somebody VS was so far away as AU ;-) There's still some time for the change... We'll support DNSSEC shortly and I'm sure others are working on additional features as well. Changes are never simple. Regards Ralf -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] Im Auftrag von Beat Siegenthaler Gesendet: Freitag, 23. Januar 2015 21:39 An: swinog@lists.swinog.ch Betreff: Re: [swinog] Suche nach neuem Registrar On 23.01.15 15:47, Oli Schacher wrote: > there is a (incomplete/possibly inaccurate) community generated list > here: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UWK6ijLCiLXSIuTT4sS_h0zCqPMCjj > hry0byQprysts/edit?usp=sharing Hi, Wow, the "where" row seems to be very inaccurate, or there are some explanations needed. Amazon, Switchplus, Metanet are really located in Austria? And Brig (rhone.ch) is now located in Australia? :-) And many "CH" registrars: I am pretty sure they have no business in Switzerland... I know i am on the wrong place here for this, but i want simply the same "swissness service" i had from switch. With IPv6 glue and DNSSEC. With a fair price...;-) Beat ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Suche nach neuem Registrar
On 23.01.15 15:47, Oli Schacher wrote: > there is a (incomplete/possibly inaccurate) community generated list > here: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UWK6ijLCiLXSIuTT4sS_h0zCqPMCjjhry0byQprysts/edit?usp=sharing Hi, Wow, the "where" row seems to be very inaccurate, or there are some explanations needed. Amazon, Switchplus, Metanet are really located in Austria? And Brig (rhone.ch) is now located in Australia? :-) And many "CH" registrars: I am pretty sure they have no business in Switzerland... I know i am on the wrong place here for this, but i want simply the same "swissness service" i had from switch. With IPv6 glue and DNSSEC. With a fair price...;-) Beat ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Suche nach neuem Registrar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Fr den 23. Jan 2015 um 18:22 schrieb Florian Bruhin: > * Klaus Ethgen [2015-01-23 18:16:25 +0100]: > > Am Fr den 23. Jan 2015 um 15:47 schrieb Oli Schacher: > > > there is a (incomplete/possibly inaccurate) community generated list > > > here: > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UWK6ijLCiLXSIuTT4sS_h0zCqPMCjjhry0byQprysts/edit?usp=sharing > > > > Hmmm... As all google services, it complains that I have a not supported > > browser (current Firefox, well Iceweasel). However, At least I can see > > something. It is just not possible to scroll as google seems to not > > implement that. > > > > Isn't there a csv version or something like that? > > File -> Download as -> csv. File is named "Datei" here and it is greyed out. There is nothing that is reacting on clicking the stuff. Thats also one of the reasons why I wrote: "..., dessen Web-GUI möglichst ohne Java, JavaScript, suspekte Zertifikatstellen oder ähnlichem Schmu daherkommt. Ich möchte kein pretty-buntie Wackel-Web-2.0-Zeugs, ich möchte nen einfaches Frontend daß in _jedem_ Browser, notfalls auch in w3m, funktioniert." Google /was/ one site that did in the past. There services are not matching that conditions. > I uploaded it here: http://paste.the-compiler.org/view/raw/04405eee Thanks, great. Gruß Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJUwoZgAAoJEKZ8CrGAGfasGF4MAKujfV2hFu37ZGSZNjrvODVf FP2YktX2jBuI6DVNEWX/uxorpb1TQMJOBeLCQMkIj6kIUqEq2igBMdxy1TtzOsiR VDSh97tbY6rlnZrisyR+9+2cbo/ZfyOL5JFmmFvT94OP1saMM5nNDWgNMf2nNET9 nG1sTP0ZbMutDivE5nDEs6l5WHUtAUuC1FrZkEEgggxtAQPrspeVKeh1Y+mWAg0i /sPoGxHwWd4HX61ZdV59PXmPB2EIyce/wtoyaCagE1fI+SZkThNNSDue9sz9UvKN VdrlmqSvsMK6Ly08PlswZAacgCInida2UwlJVL4HKOhuDoNBUOBGOhny3DOA9NHj 4QeDYSCeCOfpbcdxBJvVyWwSmSIgE7EmqWuHDPhD3hOVWkRT3FU9PyROQKlGhTQD JEvhHF28YQy+9IHHYYGwsI9dcEddeR8Xi7dirC2ZJDnbwn1TcLuMZVPvkuyi3+pL I0+1bsGWaju46Blm4iSzEYNJUhkXmrjwWTcfd0B3LA== =wqfB -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Suche nach neuem Registrar
* Klaus Ethgen [2015-01-23 18:16:25 +0100]: > Am Fr den 23. Jan 2015 um 15:47 schrieb Oli Schacher: > > there is a (incomplete/possibly inaccurate) community generated list > > here: > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UWK6ijLCiLXSIuTT4sS_h0zCqPMCjjhry0byQprysts/edit?usp=sharing > > Hmmm... As all google services, it complains that I have a not supported > browser (current Firefox, well Iceweasel). However, At least I can see > something. It is just not possible to scroll as google seems to not > implement that. > > Isn't there a csv version or something like that? File -> Download as -> csv. I uploaded it here: http://paste.the-compiler.org/view/raw/04405eee Florian -- http://www.the-compiler.org | m...@the-compiler.org (Mail/XMPP) GPG: 916E B0C8 FD55 A072 | http://the-compiler.org/pubkey.asc I love long mails! | http://email.is-not-s.ms/ pgpiz0QVZa0Y9.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Suche nach neuem Registrar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am Fr den 23. Jan 2015 um 15:47 schrieb Oli Schacher: > there is a (incomplete/possibly inaccurate) community generated list > here: > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UWK6ijLCiLXSIuTT4sS_h0zCqPMCjjhry0byQprysts/edit?usp=sharing Hmmm... As all google services, it complains that I have a not supported browser (current Firefox, well Iceweasel). However, At least I can see something. It is just not possible to scroll as google seems to not implement that. Isn't there a csv version or something like that? Nevertheless, that is something like what I had in mind. I appreciate the personal mails I got for my request but I like more to have that information spread a bit more to the public here as there are many that needing this informations. Gruß Klaus - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJUwoHnAAoJEKZ8CrGAGfasjLIL/RRmr1P3R6+RUUIOjVuuxV20 hbwBRFgx7q1F2zlpWHEoyqG2bgu2JOS81CLgeiNZp/QeNQtijWXQUUUoExLnWKru M3v0CW/biT0CRHkURC9fPcgZeHkI2Uw8920LR5RPWVHy8REOvcvBnYUIvcrJiiMK 7alfXURZ48gmGCDzFaQ8Dyyp25rkS4X9P/3m5u4kx9AazDGauCgC4GtcjDfslC94 KJkcwAeLecjD80aMBgzcgB0dqApef/a1w78uVv8WEwISo+6Q8zrgBvW6rnr5WWCb INufoYWdNBbUoYjbhc2woq9pY5PUaEnCe8v1tnVDe7Zdi0+pAh3f4KxuQr8oYanP fCYHZqL6VnXSB8sDZTUtDjgnVo5JJSaBfMj2pMUn0vlVZQMf1vjORhMCDZOXzRod p8PxjjMjH/5IJjYPGVWgCi4vzCe25egUcvs4RGn0cAneBflBSULaPBMp80ggd98Y 5mj/evYCSrl63PKdeKTphSaNX0LDFfs3db3uL8S+Lg== =8dKS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Suche nach neuem Registrar
I propose adding the following columns: -- Payment periods (for example, "1y, 2y, 5y, 10y") -- Payment methods (need abbreviations for invoice, paypal, credit card, Paynet, LSV) On Fri, Jan 23, 2015 at 4:02 PM, Benoit Panizzon wrote: >> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UWK6ijLCiLXSIuTT4sS_h0zCqPMCjjhry0b >> yQprysts/edit?usp=sharing > > Nice! exactly what I had in mind :-) > > Mit freundlichen Grüssen > > Benoit Panizzon > -- > I m p r o W a r e A G- > __ > > Zurlindenstrasse 29 Tel +41 61 826 93 07 > CH-4133 PrattelnFax +41 61 826 93 02 > Schweiz Web http://www.imp.ch > __ > > > ___ > swinog mailing list > swinog@lists.swinog.ch > http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog -- Stanislav Sinyagin Senior Consultant, CCIE #5478 ssinya...@k-open.com +41 79 407 0224 ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Suche nach neuem Registrar
Am Friday, 23. January 2015, 13.48:04 schrieb Peter Keel: > Hi > > I'm looking for one as well. DNSSEC and IPv6 glue records (and > reachable via IPv6 of course) are a must. > > Is there a list somewhere where one can look up such things? I als got the letter from switch, they point out, that domain ownsers using DNSSEC should use one of those registrars: https://www.icann.org/resources/pages/deployment-2012-02-25-en Actualy I can only find _one_ registrar based in switzerland, offering DNSSEC. And it's own domain is _not_ signed and he has no records for his NS Servers. So there is actualy not a single swiss registrar except switch iteslf offering DNSSEC AND IPv6? Maybe wo should start a wiki for documentation what features all registrar offer: I would suggest collecting information about: * Contact Address Management (via WebGui/Email Bot / Via Support) * NS Glue Management (via WebGui/Email Bot / Via Support) * DNSSEC DS Record Management (via Web/Email GUI / Via Support) * IPv6 Glue * IPv6 reachability * Invoice via Mail 'Einzahlungsschein' * Invoice via e-mail * Invoice via PayNet * Payment by Credit Card * Swiss Support Telephone Number * 24x7 Emergency Support * Price That would give a nice overview and facilitate choosing the right one. Mit freundlichen Grüssen Benoit Panizzon -- I m p r o W a r e A G- __ Zurlindenstrasse 29 Tel +41 61 826 93 07 CH-4133 PrattelnFax +41 61 826 93 02 Schweiz Web http://www.imp.ch __ ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Suche nach neuem Registrar
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UWK6ijLCiLXSIuTT4sS_h0zCqPMCjjhry0b > yQprysts/edit?usp=sharing Nice! exactly what I had in mind :-) Mit freundlichen Grüssen Benoit Panizzon -- I m p r o W a r e A G- __ Zurlindenstrasse 29 Tel +41 61 826 93 07 CH-4133 PrattelnFax +41 61 826 93 02 Schweiz Web http://www.imp.ch __ ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Suche nach neuem Registrar
On Fri, 23 Jan 2015 13:48:04 +0100 Peter Keel wrote: > Hi > > I'm looking for one as well. DNSSEC and IPv6 glue records (and > reachable via IPv6 of course) are a must. > > Is there a list somewhere where one can look up such things? > > Cheers > Seegras there is a (incomplete/possibly inaccurate) community generated list here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1UWK6ijLCiLXSIuTT4sS_h0zCqPMCjjhry0byQprysts/edit?usp=sharing Best regards Oli -- message transmitted on 100% recycled electrons ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
Re: [swinog] Suche nach neuem Registrar
Hi I'm looking for one as well. DNSSEC and IPv6 glue records (and reachable via IPv6 of course) are a must. Is there a list somewhere where one can look up such things? Cheers Seegras -- "Those who give up essential liberties for temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety." -- Benjamin Franklin "It's also true that those who would give up privacy for security are likely to end up with neither." -- Bruce Schneier ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog
[swinog] Suche nach neuem Registrar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hallo Liste, ich weiß, hier waren schon ein paar ähnliche Mails, keine hat jedoch dieses Thema angesprochen. Wie in aller Munde, ist ja 2015 das Jahr des großen .ch-Domainzügelns. Es gibt ja viele Anbieter auf dem Markt, aber bei den meisten kann man erst nach Vertragsabschluß deren mehr oder weniger wunderbares Web-GUI bestaunen. Nun suche ich ein Registrar, dessen Web-GUI möglichst ohne Java, JavaScript, suspekte Zertifikatstellen oder ähnlichem Schmu daherkommt. Ich möchte kein pretty-buntie Wackel-Web-2.0-Zeugs, ich möchte nen einfaches Frontend daß in _jedem_ Browser, notfalls auch in w3m, funktioniert. Hat da wer hier auf der Liste schon Erfahrungen gemacht? Positive? Negative? Die Kosten sind eher zweitranging. Die liegen ja eh alle recht nahe beieinander. Und wenn es ein seriöser Anbieter ist, dann hab ich kein Problem damit, wenn der zwei Franken teurer ist. Gruß und schönen Start in die Woche Klaus Ethgen - -- Klaus Ethgen http://www.ethgen.ch/ pub 4096R/4E20AF1C 2011-05-16 Klaus Ethgen Fingerprint: 85D4 CA42 952C 949B 1753 62B3 79D0 B06F 4E20 AF1C -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iQGcBAEBCgAGBQJUs5ptAAoJEKZ8CrGAGfasu8QL/1OqBWp+FHfNC6VlJW1Qi83h M8NCh3w0v9kj3GrNeTKcbaKb7Aqvtdd1Bm++lk8CFcSGNliU7ikxCWwCQ+SKhTsu 65iV3Y0FYvidOYQFO2qFBI/UTfXaE2fBQ19hTISITIZBxIiV3+xPSiVboIFq/SOz cBK2gMDocacp4wZzwVf651JEPV7G6ivBfb9mljvOoQaOpohA6ll8wmJoYBJAZOwa +6wEdRc5o0FbDfa16kOyADyc8L6vcuthWyj4LRup3dcJ1862ML/0Es93VT3tKvGz 7xYxQ6xWK4+v7nrCzNbsf+QZAzSRYLFmwU+7E9ZnHCLtWa8er4nHtxnSUzrg4S/7 KiqBmCLU7/eDcd3J9K2bok5706dL5AQp6IxYFf2rUoooLyxFZSyRAEbgW7ylsH7H i1eegq6jQk6E7+jRYGMoNyPxGXOcmxqnaA5uCzdtNbT4Fy1+nIjl80N8AZzNgnFs l1CNOpNDk9CO4NYbBDmmYEbmApbH1REhiAP+Esqw6A== =iwkp -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ swinog mailing list swinog@lists.swinog.ch http://lists.swinog.ch/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/swinog