Re: [swinog] Cloudflare DMCA Takedown requests - but content not present under mentioned IP

2021-07-06 Thread Matias Meier
Hello Benoit

>Do others get similar takedown notices? Maybe even for that same domain?
Yes we did once because of text (a company was mentioned) on a site, but it was 
not against any swiss law, so we informed Cloudflare about that, they were OK 
with that.

Some of our customers do use Cloudflare, they all only open port 80 and 443 for 
the Cloudflare servers.

Freundliche Grüsse
 
Matias Meier


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under mentioned IP

Dear List

I am a bit puzzled by repeated Cloudflare Takedown Requests regarding
the domain: lord-film.cash we are getting.

lord-film.cash has address 172.67.181.230
lord-film.cash has address 104.21.32.5
lord-film.cash has IPv6 address 2606:4700:3035::6815:2005
lord-film.cash has IPv6 address 2606:4700:3032::ac43:b5e6

According to Cloudflare, the content is hosted at an IP address under
our control, on a Webserver on Port 80.

I told them some time ago, there is no Webserver running under the IP
address they mention.

They replied, they could verify the IP with:

curl -v -H "Host: lord-film.cash" [IPADDRESS]/

Still, every time I try, I don't get a connection. No wonder, that is a
NAT router with Firewall.

So I wonder, if either the user of that IP Address has cleverly set up a
firewall which blocks all requests not via Cloudflare proxies, or if
this domain uses some kind of P2P Protocol and the IP of that user
is just one of 'many' which is only reachable, when some P2P tool is
running and opening a UPNP Port.

When I try to access the site itself: http://lord-film.cash/ I get
'access denied' from Cloudflare.

Do others get similar takedown notices? Maybe even for that same domain?

Mit freundlichen Grüssen

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Re: [swinog] Cloudflare DMCA Takedown requests - but content not present under mentioned IP

2021-07-06 Thread Markus Wild
Hello Benoit,

> I am a bit puzzled by repeated Cloudflare Takedown Requests regarding
> the domain: lord-film.cash we are getting.
> 
> lord-film.cash has address 172.67.181.230
> lord-film.cash has address 104.21.32.5
> lord-film.cash has IPv6 address 2606:4700:3035::6815:2005
> lord-film.cash has IPv6 address 2606:4700:3032::ac43:b5e6
> 
> According to Cloudflare, the content is hosted at an IP address under
> our control, on a Webserver on Port 80.

I find this a bit odd, that they'd send you take-down requests for their own IP 
addresses

when I search the domain in google, they show some site with cyrillic 
description (russian?), and you can even look at
the cached page in google, and it does seem to host movies (just ran it through 
google translate). My guess is the
entry page is probably geo fenced. I then clicked some of the russian links, 
was again redirected through cloudflare
with their infamouse captchas, but was finally shown this link:

https://hd-1.lordfilms.help/2019/01/06/vpered-v-proshloe-2007.html

which, again, is hosted at cloudflare...

It definitely looks illegal for consumers in DMCA countries...

Cheers,
Markus


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Re: [swinog] Cloudflare DMCA Takedown requests - but content not present under mentioned IP

2021-07-06 Thread Benoit Panizzon
Am Tue, 6 Jul 2021 12:01:58 +0200
schrieb Markus Wild :

> I find this a bit odd, that they'd send you take-down requests for their own 
> IP addresses

No, that was me resolving the domain. :-)

They of course mention the IP in our ranges, which I don't want to
expose here as I can not find any way to verify the DMCA claims.

Mit freundlichen Grüssen

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Re: [swinog] Cloudflare DMCA Takedown requests - but content not present under mentioned IP

2021-07-06 Thread Eliot Lear
I'm not sure I have a clear picture here.  It sounds like you're saying 
that cloudflare is retrieving information from your IP addresses that 
you don't yourselves see or serve.  Could your prefix have been hijacked?


Eliot

On 06.07.21 13:20, Benoit Panizzon wrote:

Am Tue, 6 Jul 2021 12:01:58 +0200
schrieb Markus Wild :


I find this a bit odd, that they'd send you take-down requests for their own IP 
addresses

No, that was me resolving the domain. :-)

They of course mention the IP in our ranges, which I don't want to
expose here as I can not find any way to verify the DMCA claims.

Mit freundlichen Grüssen

-Benoît Panizzon-




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Re: [swinog] Cloudflare DMCA Takedown requests - but content not present under mentioned IP

2021-07-06 Thread Jeroen Massar
They could simply take it down by:

 - Contacting their own customer (for which they are proxying)
 - Stop providing proxy services to any entity and often for 'free'...

Fun that they contact you, while they are exposing it to the Internet ;)


Greets,
 Jeroen

> On 20210706, at 13:20, Benoit Panizzon  wrote:
> 
> Am Tue, 6 Jul 2021 12:01:58 +0200
> schrieb Markus Wild :
> 
>> I find this a bit odd, that they'd send you take-down requests for their own 
>> IP addresses
> 
> No, that was me resolving the domain. :-)
> 
> They of course mention the IP in our ranges, which I don't want to
> expose here as I can not find any way to verify the DMCA claims.
> 
> Mit freundlichen Grüssen
> 
> -Benoît Panizzon-
> -- 
> I m p r o W a r e   A G-Leiter Commerce Kunden
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> 
> Zurlindenstrasse 29 Tel  +41 61 826 93 00
> CH-4133 PrattelnFax  +41 61 826 93 01
> Schweiz Web  http://www.imp.ch
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