Re: [swinog] Contact at web.de?

2010-03-23 Diskussionsfäden Martin Blapp

Hi,

> It’s completely different about that what RP is offering.

ReturnPath is listed as cooperation partner so I guess they are 
exchanging their 'whitelists'.


The business model behind this whitelisting services pushes e-mail into 
a "paid by the byte" model.
Senders pay (by different models) to be included in a whitelist. Of 
course, commercial providers
have an incentive to enforce their policies (otherwise people would stop 
using them), but only
potentially "bad" senders have an incentive to make use of such paid 
services.


The new thing is, ISP don't have to pay, but Bulk mailers have to ...

I found this on their website ...


  >Price List

>This document contains the registration fees and continuous dues 
according to business size as
>well as payment methods. The service is free of charge to internet 
service providers.

>Bulk Mailers who have memberships with the DDV or eco receive a discount.

How nice ... Web.de should better use DNSWL.org which is free for anyone.

Just my few cents ...

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Re: [swinog] Contact at web.de?

2010-03-23 Diskussionsfäden André Görmer
It’s completely different about that what RP is offering.
Please read it in detail and the question was if there is a possibility, yes 
there is one.
http://www.certified-senders.eu/csa_html/en/index_en.htm

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André


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Von: Gregory Agerba [mailto:gregory.age...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. März 2010 17:05
An: André Görmer
Cc: Mike Kellenberger; swi...@swinog.ch
Betreff: Re: [swinog] Contact at web.de?

What a joke. This is just as irrelevant as ReturnPath.net: you can spam us, but 
pay for it!
2010/3/23 André Görmer mailto:a.goer...@ecircle.com>>
Hello Mike,

yes and the only way to get whitelisted is to be a member of the csa:
http://www.certified-senders.eu/csa_html/en/index_en.htm

Contact address:
mailsecur...@webde.de<mailto:mailsecur...@webde.de>


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André


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Im Auftrag von Mike Kellenberger
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Betreff: [swinog] Contact at web.de<http://web.de/>?

Does anybody have a contact person at web.de<http://web.de/> responsible for 
e-mail?
Their anti-spam settings seem to be pretty harsh. When our customers try
to send newsletters with more than about 10 web.de<http://web.de/> recipient 
addresses,
further mails are being blocked for quite some time, causing delays and
filling our outbound queue. Is there an easy way to get on a whitelist
at web.de<http://web.de/>?

Cheers,

Mike

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Re: [swinog] Contact at web.de?

2010-03-23 Diskussionsfäden Gregory Agerba
What a joke. This is just as irrelevant as ReturnPath.net: you can spam us,
but pay for it!

2010/3/23 André Görmer 

> Hello Mike,
>
> yes and the only way to get whitelisted is to be a member of the csa:
> http://www.certified-senders.eu/csa_html/en/index_en.htm
>
> Contact address:
> mailsecur...@webde.de
>
>
> Regards,
> André
>
>
> André Görmer
> Project Manager / Deliverability Manager
>
>
> eCircle
> P: +49 (0)89 / 120 09-762 | F: +49 (0)89 / 120 09-750
> E: a.goer...@ecircle.com
> Nymphenburger Str. 86, 80636 München
>
> Stay in touch
> Web: www.ecircle.com/de | Newsletter: www.ecircle.com/index.php?id=63&L=0
>
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> Support: support...@ecircle.com.
>
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> Download Whitepaper: www.ecircle.com/index.php?id=61&L=0
>
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> Volker Wiewer (Vorsitzender), Thomas Wilke, Lars Wössner,
> Alexander Meyer Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Dr. Mark Wössner
>  -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch]
> Im Auftrag von Mike Kellenberger
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. März 2010 15:39
> An: swi...@swinog.ch
> Betreff: [swinog] Contact at web.de?
>
> Does anybody have a contact person at web.de responsible for e-mail?
> Their anti-spam settings seem to be pretty harsh. When our customers try
> to send newsletters with more than about 10 web.de recipient addresses,
> further mails are being blocked for quite some time, causing delays and
> filling our outbound queue. Is there an easy way to get on a whitelist
> at web.de?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Mike
>
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Re: [swinog] Contact at web.de?

2010-03-23 Diskussionsfäden André Görmer
Hello Mike,

yes and the only way to get whitelisted is to be a member of the csa:
http://www.certified-senders.eu/csa_html/en/index_en.htm

Contact address:
mailsecur...@webde.de


Regards,
André


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-Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
Von: swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch [mailto:swinog-boun...@lists.swinog.ch] Im 
Auftrag von Mike Kellenberger
Gesendet: Dienstag, 23. März 2010 15:39
An: swi...@swinog.ch
Betreff: [swinog] Contact at web.de?

Does anybody have a contact person at web.de responsible for e-mail?
Their anti-spam settings seem to be pretty harsh. When our customers try
to send newsletters with more than about 10 web.de recipient addresses,
further mails are being blocked for quite some time, causing delays and
filling our outbound queue. Is there an easy way to get on a whitelist
at web.de?

Cheers,

Mike

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