Re: Re: [swinog] The truth about UCEPROTECT-Blocklists

2008-01-16 Thread f . jachiet
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Re: Re: [swinog] The truth about UCEPROTECT-Blocklists

2008-01-16 Thread Claus v. Wolfhausen
Hi Michael,

we have Level 1 listed the IP 195.162.162.159 spamming the list with it's
stupid autoresponder,
so if swinog uses UCEPROTECT-Level 1 the loop should be broken now. 

http://www.uceprotect.net/de/rblcheck.php?ipr=195.162.162.159

Yours

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Re: Re: [swinog] The truth about UCEPROTECT-Blocklists

2008-01-16 Thread Claus v. Wolfhausen
Hi Michael,
 
>I hope you don't expect me to award you with the King's cross for 
>doing that. I don't like your reaction. It seems childish to me. 
>This specific behaviour inidcates to me one more time that 
>UCE-pro* is acting out of resigantion (and arrogance?) rather 
>than trying to be usefull. But that again just reflects the 
>impression I got a few years ago.

No i just tried to be helpfull, and it seems to work.
Would you preferre that stupid autoresponder had continued the loop
up till someone at GPSTECHNIK will stop it? 

I guess you would not.

That said i really have no idea what your problem is.

Perhaps you don't know that i took over the UCEPROTECT-Project in
June 2007, so if you had any problems with UCEPROTECT some 
years ago, then you had differences with my predecessor and not with me.

Many things have changed here since i am responsible for the project.

Yours

Claus von Wolfhausen
UCEPROTECT-Network
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Re: Re: [swinog] The truth about UCEPROTECT-Blocklists

2008-01-16 Thread Claus v. Wolfhausen
Hi Simon,

>are you located in marketing or engineering?

I'm the technical director so it's about 80% engineering, 15% marketing and
additional 5% other things.

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Re: Re: [swinog] The truth about UCEPROTECT-Blocklists

2008-01-17 Thread Daniel Kamm
Dear Claus

On Thu, 2008-01-17 at 02:41 +0100, Claus v. Wolfhausen wrote:
> we have Level 1 listed the IP 195.162.162.159 spamming the list with
it's 
> stupid autoresponder,
> so if swinog uses UCEPROTECT-Level 1 the loop should be broken now.

Tell me, that you are not really blocking IPs because of some email
domains behind are throwing automatically created reponses back? You are
really comparing apple to pears. You should block email domains but not
IPs.

Let's say you have a load balanced environment with let's say 100'000
domains and 1 mio email addresses, using a /24 for email services. The
collateral damage you are taking in account if one single address is
throwing back automated responses is immense. Not to mention if you are
blocking one IP - you then have a lottery if email will get transmitted.

Sorry, but that gets me upset.

Cheerz
 - Dan

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Re: Re: Re: [swinog] The truth about UCEPROTECT-Blocklists

2008-01-16 Thread f . jachiet
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Re: Re: Re: Re: [swinog] The truth about UCEPROTECT-Blocklists

2008-01-16 Thread f . jachiet
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: [swinog] The truth about UCEPROTECT-Blocklists

2008-01-16 Thread f . jachiet
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2008-01-16 Thread f . jachiet
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2008-01-16 Thread f . jachiet
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2008-01-16 Thread f . jachiet
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2008-01-16 Thread f . jachiet
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2008-01-16 Thread f . jachiet
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