Re: [sword-devel] Using Perl script usfm2osos.pl in Windows?
Thanks DM. Very helpful response. Just one point might need further elaboration (as I see it). Were one to enhance the Perl code to take the directory name as the argument, how would one know what Windows file extension the USFM filenames might have? We have already come across all of these: *.ptx, *.sfm, *.usfm We have seen them too in uppercase as well as lowercase. No doubt we'll encounter more variations as we collaborate with other translation teams. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Re-Using-Perl-script-usfm2osos-pl-in-Windows-tp3441964p3443989.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Using Perl script usfm2osos.pl in Windows?
As one of the two current maintainers, I would loath to introduce extra
complexity. Like testing for Windows and using modules I do not know and can
not test, ever. Particularly as there exist perfectly adequate solutions for
Windows users - i.e. installing Cygwin or presumably also mingsys.
I will consider introducing the "-d " option. This makes sense.
All in all though I do think that while I want to make USFM import more useful,
powerful and feature complete, (I have indroduced a whole bunch of new USFM
tags, worked on improving xrefs etc) I struggle with the idea of making it
easier for people who resist using a suitable working environment. This is not
a dig at you David - you produce quality, all the time. But making it easier at
the entry end without having the tail end dealt with adequately (dealing with
USFM coding idiosyncrasies, full tag support etc, XML validity) will ultimately
lead to poor quality modules.
Peter
Peter
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> Datum: Mon, 11 Apr 2011 15:11:29 -0400
> Von: DM Smith
> An: sword-devel@crosswire.org
> Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] Using Perl script usfm2osos.pl in Windows?
>
>
> On 04/11/2011 02:11 PM, David Haslam wrote:
> > My expectations are simple enough...
> >
> > I'd like to be able to use usfm2osis.pl with Windows filespec wildcards.
> > e.g. *.SFM, as the last command line parameter ("like it says on the
> tin").
>
> >
> > Is that not something that a good Perl programmer can add fairly simply?
>
> The request is that the file globbing be done within the program rather
> than at the command line. Or to allow for both.
>
> There are various perl modules that allow for this. These probably are
> not part of every distribution, so the program would need to
> conditionally include them if the platform is windows and if not there,
> complain (i.e. tell the user which module to use) and fall back to the
> current behavior.
>
> This would be something like:
> (from: http://www.perlmonks.org/?node_id=781801 )
>
> # This BEGIN block avoids including File::DosGlob::Param for non-windows
> systems BEGIN { if ( $^O =~ /win/i ) { require File::DosGlob::Param;
> import File::DosGlob::Param qw( dosglob ); } }
>
> # convert filename wildcards to actual filenames if ( $^O =~ /win/i ) #
> only if DOS { if ( exists( $INC{'File/DosGlob/Param.pm'} ) ) # only if
> loaded { dosglob( "Array_Ref" => \@ARGV, "Remove_Empty_Matches" => 1,
> "Warn_On_Empty_Matches" => 1 ); } END { if ( ( $^O =~ /win/i ) and not
> exists( $INC{'File/DosGlob/Param.pm'} ) ) { warn "Consider installing
> module File::DosGlob::Param...\n"; } } }
>
> Alternatively, one could modify the program to take a directory argument
> instead of a file list.
> So if the argument is a directory it would look for all sfm files in
> there.
> if (-d $ARGV[i]) {
>$dir = $ARGV[i];
>
> | @files =<$dir/*.sfm>;
> || foreach $file (@files) {
> print $file . "\n";
>}
> }
> |
>
>
> It might be reasonable to take a look at argv and do the following:
> if ($ARGV[$i] ~= m/\*/) {
> @files = <$ARGV[$i]>;
> }
>
> Hopefully this is helpful to one that has time to actually work on it.
>
> In a Un*x environment one can test this last approaches by putting
> single quotes around the argument as in:
> prog.pl 'Bibles/*.sfm'
>
>
> In Him,
> DM
>
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[sword-devel] KJV vs Russian Synodal versification comparison
Hi all, I am working on preparing text for 2 Central Asian languages and as we test different applications we are trying to make sure that we cover as many areas of possible error as possible. I was wondering if as you, the app developers, have developed support for different versifications if you have a document or some info on what exactly is different between the KJV and Russian Synodal versification. Some kind of documented info on this would be of great help as at the moment we just have some pointers which some people have given us but not a complete list. Many thanks, Andy ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] KJV vs Russian Synodal versification comparison
I have sent a reply on your message but it was delayed before been moderated. Also i have sent that attachment on your mail. -- Hi, Andy. I have attached file with description of Synodal versification used in Sword and verse mappings to KJV versification. This table would contain errors because i haven't checked every verse, only chapters with different verse count. So i will be glad to get help from you and, of course, to provide any kind of help for you on this subject. > I am working on preparing text for 2 Central Asian languages and as > we test different applications we are trying to make sure that we > cover as many areas of possible error as possible. I was wondering > if as you, the app developers, have developed support for different > versifications if you have a document or some info on what exactly > is different between the KJV and Russian Synodal versification. Some > kind of documented info on this would be of great help as at the > moment we just have some pointers which some people have given us > but not a complete list. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] KJV vs Russian Synodal versification comparison
Andy, Not pretending this is a complete list, but at present BibleTime supports all the versifications that SWORD understand. Xiphos partially understands them and support is in the works, but at present it only has full support for the KJV versification. The SWORD Project for Windows (I believe) supports them, as does SWORDweb. BibleDesktop only supports KJV. I have no knowledge of BPBible's support. GoBible, I believe, only supports KJV as well. Other mobile frontends: I am not aware of their status. --Greg On Tue, Apr 12, 2011 at 5:09 AM, Andy Harris wrote: > Hi all, > > > > I am working on preparing text for 2 Central Asian languages and as we test > different applications we are trying to make sure that we cover as many > areas of possible error as possible. > > I was wondering if as you, the app developers, have developed support for > different versifications if you have a document or some info on what exactly > is different between the KJV and Russian Synodal versification. > > Some kind of documented info on this would be of great help as at the moment > we just have some pointers which some people have given us but not a > complete list. > > > > Many thanks, > > Andy > > > > ___ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page > ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] KJV vs Russian Synodal versification comparison
On Wed, Apr 13, 2011 at 1:21 AM, Greg Hellings wrote: > Andy, > > Not pretending this is a complete list, but at present BibleTime > supports all the versifications that SWORD understand. Xiphos > partially understands them and support is in the works, but at present > it only has full support for the KJV versification. The SWORD Project > for Windows (I believe) supports them, as does SWORDweb. BibleDesktop > only supports KJV. I have no knowledge of BPBible's support. GoBible, > I believe, only supports KJV as well. Other mobile frontends: I am > not aware of their status. > > I would expect that SWORD for Windows only supports all versifications in the new pre-release version. BPBible does not support anything other than the KJV versification (while other ones would probably open, that's about it - anything else could behave in almost any strange way, including crashing). Jon ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] KJV vs Russian Synodal versification comparison
Go Bible is neutral with regard to versification. It is not tied to the KJV. The only minor exception is the the full set of search scope radio buttons applies only when the number of books is exactly 66. i.e. UI-All: All UI-New-Testament: New Testament UI-Old-Testament: Old Testament UI-Gospels: Gospels UI-Pauls-Letters: Paul's Letters UI-Other-Letters: Other Letters UI-Books-Of-Moses: Books of Moses UI-Historical: Historical UI-Poetic: Poetic UI-Major-Prophets: Major Prophets UI-Minor-Prophets: Minor Prophets For anything else, the choice is the current book or the whole collection. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/KJV-vs-Russian-Synodal-versification-comparison-tp3444189p3445135.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
