[sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
I've just added this idea "* Per module assignment of speech synthesis voices, or none." in http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:FeatureList#General_UI_features http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:FeatureList#General_UI_features My suggestion is prompted by learning about the http://www.ivona.com/ IVONA *TTS Engine* for Android, and the choice of voices available for various languages. Some languages already have more than one voice. e.g. Geraint or Gwyneth for Welsh. "Geraint and Gwyneth, first natural sounding Welsh voices are now available, for individuals and non-commercial entities in the UK for free, as a result of partnership between the Welsh Government, the Royal National Institute of Blind People and IVONA. " Arfon Jones just installed this with his Android phone, and has used it successfully with *and-bible* to read passages from the WelBeiblNet module. He's very pleased with it. Minor quirks are the occasional reading out of the word "comma" when the punctuation is present. btw. IVONA is still in Beta, and is free of charge until the end of the Beta period. /I'm merely using this as an example, not seeking to advertise on their behalf./ This is something for front-end developers to consider, in as much as it relates to the UI and the platform, as well as any preloaded TTS engine and/or installed TTS application. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Speech-synthesis-voices-tp4650893.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
Not sure it is needed. On the Mac one can highlight text and have it read in a voice of their choice. And yes it reads punctuation as that is assistive to the blind. Linux can read text (festival?) but I've never bothered to look into it. Xiphos builds it in. It can be done in Java, see: http://today.java.net/pub/a/today/2006/04/13/vocal-java.html In Him, DM Cent from my fone so theer mite be tipos. ;) On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:31 AM, David Haslam wrote: > I've just added this idea "* Per module assignment of speech synthesis > voices, or none." in > http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:FeatureList#General_UI_features > http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:FeatureList#General_UI_features > > My suggestion is prompted by learning about the http://www.ivona.com/ IVONA > *TTS Engine* for Android, and the choice of voices available for various > languages. > > Some languages already have more than one voice. e.g. Geraint or Gwyneth for > Welsh. > > "Geraint and Gwyneth, first natural sounding Welsh voices are now available, > for individuals and non-commercial entities in the UK for free, as a result > of partnership between the Welsh Government, the Royal National Institute of > Blind People and IVONA. " > > Arfon Jones just installed this with his Android phone, and has used it > successfully with *and-bible* to read passages from the WelBeiblNet module. > He's very pleased with it. Minor quirks are the occasional reading out of > the word "comma" when the punctuation is present. > > btw. IVONA is still in Beta, and is free of charge until the end of the > Beta period. > /I'm merely using this as an example, not seeking to advertise on their > behalf./ > > This is something for front-end developers to consider, in as much as it > relates to the UI and the platform, as well as any preloaded TTS engine > and/or installed TTS application. > > David > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Speech-synthesis-voices-tp4650893.html > Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
But does one have to choose the voice every time? Or does the Mac remember the user's previous choice? Is it a choice for the whole platform, until you change it again? *Even that is only part of what I'm thinking of.* If you know several languages, and you want to enjoy the experience of listening to the text being read, it would save a lot of repeated GUI actions if one could assign a voice to each installed module. Then all you have to do afterwards is to select what's to be read, and hit the "TTS" icon or whatever. You'd only need to change the voice when [say] you got fed up of listening to Gwyneth reading in Welsh, and decide to switch to Geraint instead. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Speech-synthesis-voices-tp4650893p4650895.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
That doesn't seem to imply it's not needed. Rather, doesn't it seem to imply the implementation should be generic, modular and bind to a variety text to voice interfaces. I know of a blind network admin. He highlights nothing, rather festival reads everything to him (far more quickly than I can hear what is being said), and he has a 'Braille screen' (which more looks like a special keyboard than a screen). The nice thing about the suggestion for Sword to support the IVONA text to speech engine more directly is IVONA's emphasis on Android devices, which are making in-roads in the visually impaired community, as an accessibility device. Pondering it, perhaps this feature recommendation should be more geared to the folks who work on Andbible. On Saturday, August 18, 2012, DM Smith wrote: > Not sure it is needed. On the Mac one can highlight text and have it read > in a voice of their choice. And yes it reads punctuation as that is > assistive to the blind. > > Linux can read text (festival?) but I've never bothered to look into it. > Xiphos builds it in. > > It can be done in Java, see: > http://today.java.net/pub/a/today/2006/04/13/vocal-java.html > > In Him, > DM > Cent from my fone so theer mite be tipos. ;) > > On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:31 AM, David Haslam > > > wrote: > > > I've just added this idea "* Per module assignment of speech synthesis > > voices, or none." in > > http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:FeatureList#General_UI_features > > http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:FeatureList#General_UI_features > > > > My suggestion is prompted by learning about the http://www.ivona.com/IVONA > > *TTS Engine* for Android, and the choice of voices available for various > > languages. > > > > Some languages already have more than one voice. e.g. Geraint or Gwyneth > for > > Welsh. > > > > "Geraint and Gwyneth, first natural sounding Welsh voices are now > available, > > for individuals and non-commercial entities in the UK for free, as a > result > > of partnership between the Welsh Government, the Royal National > Institute of > > Blind People and IVONA. " > > > > Arfon Jones just installed this with his Android phone, and has used it > > successfully with *and-bible* to read passages from the WelBeiblNet > module. > > He's very pleased with it. Minor quirks are the occasional reading out of > > the word "comma" when the punctuation is present. > > > > btw. IVONA is still in Beta, and is free of charge until the end of the > > Beta period. > > /I'm merely using this as an example, not seeking to advertise on their > > behalf./ > > > > This is something for front-end developers to consider, in as much as it > > relates to the UI and the platform, as well as any preloaded TTS engine > > and/or installed TTS application. > > > > David > > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Speech-synthesis-voices-tp4650893.html > > Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > > > ___ > > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page > > ___ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page > ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Alternate Versification question
Chris Little писал(а) в своём письме Mon, 13 Aug 2012 21:48:38 +0400: The other type attempts to formalize a versification system representative of numerous Bibles within a tradition. Examples of this include the KJV(A), NRSV(A), Synodal, Catholic, & Catholic2. KJV(A) & NRSV(A) happen to exactly match particular translations, but those versification systems are in wide use beyond those translations. Synodal and the two Catholics began with the versification systems of exemplar translations and were then expanded to incorporate additional verses from translations within the same tradition so that the system within Sword could achieve maximal coverage of the verses within Bibles we might encode. Sorry, if we want correct transitions between versifications or even parallel display, we should not to follow this rule. Text should occupy as more verses in chapter as more versification chapter contains. Otherwise we got misalignment for example if one text merge two verses or omit verse. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
The idea of a module-supplied CSS in the confFile has been rejected time and time again. Because a single application is incapable of using CSS. Very few of our apps have TTS integration. Ergo this is very far from a viable suggestion at the module level. It is, though, possible for each application to offer this support where available. --Greg On Aug 18, 2012 9:33 AM, "David Haslam" wrote: > I've just added this idea "* Per module assignment of speech synthesis > voices, or none." in > http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:FeatureList#General_UI_features > http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:FeatureList#General_UI_features > > My suggestion is prompted by learning about the http://www.ivona.com/IVONA > *TTS Engine* for Android, and the choice of voices available for various > languages. > > Some languages already have more than one voice. e.g. Geraint or Gwyneth > for > Welsh. > > "Geraint and Gwyneth, first natural sounding Welsh voices are now > available, > for individuals and non-commercial entities in the UK for free, as a result > of partnership between the Welsh Government, the Royal National Institute > of > Blind People and IVONA. " > > Arfon Jones just installed this with his Android phone, and has used it > successfully with *and-bible* to read passages from the WelBeiblNet module. > He's very pleased with it. Minor quirks are the occasional reading out of > the word "comma" when the punctuation is present. > > btw. IVONA is still in Beta, and is free of charge until the end of the > Beta period. > /I'm merely using this as an example, not seeking to advertise on their > behalf./ > > This is something for front-end developers to consider, in as much as it > relates to the UI and the platform, as well as any preloaded TTS engine > and/or installed TTS application. > > David > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Speech-synthesis-voices-tp4650893.html > Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > > ___ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page > ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] ESV: Red Letter Edition Errors
Another observation related to this bug is that it doesn't seem to honour tags in the first couple of verses either. Look at [Psa 116:1-2], [Psa 118:1-2] in r2715 against earlier stock versions. Perhaps there are other tags not being honoured. ~A On Thursday, August 16, 2012, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > It's a (recent) sword problem. > > I concur that in Xiphos 3.1.5-win32, all the red letters look fine. > That's with a stock libsword as of when 3.1.5 was released (though > current SVN then, as built by Greg). But on my usual Linux systems, the > breakage is seen. (FYI, also Matt 25:1,14,31.) There, sword is -r2715. > > I happen to have an old -r2679 tree lying around. So I rebuilt that, > installed it...and now my Linux Xiphos doesn't show the problem. > > Somewhere between 2679 and 2715, this was broken in Sword. > > ___ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page > ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
