Re: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps?

2015-03-12 Thread SonWon
AndBible is going strong.

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Karl Kleinpaste 
wrote:

>  It's been observed to me more than once recently that most of the apps
> have gone stagnant, dead, no ongoing development.  How true is this
> assertion?
>
> Personally I know about only Xiphos, which has been relatively busy other
> than the last couple weeks, and PocketSword, whose 1.4.7 was released in
> late January.
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Re: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps?

2015-03-12 Thread Matěj Cepl
On 2015-03-11, 16:57 GMT, Karl Kleinpaste wrote:
> Personally I know about only Xiphos, which has been relatively busy
> other than the last couple weeks, and PocketSword, whose 1.4.7 was
> released in late January.

I would strongly vote for inclusion of 
https://github.com/zefanja/biblez-ng (aka 
https://marketplace.firefox.com/app/biblez-desktop) as well. It 
is still far from feature-competitive with Xiphos et al. and its 
development is still more or less one-man-show so it is not 
running ahead with the breakneck speed, on the other hand it is 
the only way how to get Sword Bibles to my phone (and any other 
JavaScript-only environment) and it does that job pretty well.

Matěj


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Re: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps?

2015-03-12 Thread Jonathan Morgan
Hi Karl,

The answer for BPBible is simple: for all intents and purposes, it is
currently dead (though, as Openhub shows, I did find time to make a couple
of bug fixes early January).
Until it supports av11n the number of modules that don't work properly with
it will increase.
However, I still use it almost exclusively as my Bible software (as do
others I know), so it can still be considered "useful".

Jon

On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:57 AM, Karl Kleinpaste 
wrote:

>  It's been observed to me more than once recently that most of the apps
> have gone stagnant, dead, no ongoing development.  How true is this
> assertion?
>
> Personally I know about only Xiphos, which has been relatively busy other
> than the last couple weeks, and PocketSword, whose 1.4.7 was released in
> late January.
>
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Re: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps?

2015-03-12 Thread Peter von Kaehne
On Thu, 2015-03-12 at 00:02 +, Chris Burrell wrote:
> Not sure about alkitab, not my project. But for step it is
> https://github.com/tyndale/step

Step Bible is added. Step as a name was taken already



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[sword-devel] how dead are the apps?

2015-03-12 Thread Karl Kleinpaste
It's been observed to me more than once recently that most of the apps
have gone stagnant, dead, no ongoing development.  How true is this
assertion?

Personally I know about only Xiphos, which has been relatively busy
other than the last couple weeks, and PocketSword, whose 1.4.7 was
released in late January.
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Re: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps?

2015-03-12 Thread Peter Von Kaehne
And Bible (using Jsword) is actively developed. Bibletime is on/off like much else.

 


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It's been observed to me more than once recently that most of the apps have gone stagnant, dead, no ongoing development.  How true is this assertion?

Personally I know about only Xiphos, which has been relatively busy other than the last couple weeks, and PocketSword, whose 1.4.7 was released in late January.
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Re: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps?

2015-03-12 Thread Peter von Kaehne
I think irrespective of it ability to recognise languages (or rather not) it 
tells a decent account of ongoing commits in some of the projects listed.

So in that i think i can say 'a decent overview'

On 11 Mar 2015 19:11, Karl Kleinpaste  wrote:
>
> Peter Von Kaehne wrote:
>>
>> https://www.openhub.net/orgs/crosswire 
>> This gives a decent overview of ongoing activity.
>
> Phooey.  Its "decent overview" thinks Xiphos came into existence in 2009 and 
> is written in Scheme, and I can't find a way to look at the other 5 of its 6 
> reviews.  I am unconvinced I can trust anything else it says, either.
>
> DM wrote:
>>
>> Bible Desktop is very much alive on that criteria alone. Many, many 
>> downloads every month.
>
> Likewise Xiphos.  Thousands of downloads, and that's just the source tarball 
> and Win32 installer; there is no way to track RPM installs, but given that 
> Fedora users get it automatically and Win32 users have to look for it 
> manually, I presume that RPM installs are substantially higher than Win32.
>
> Troy wrote:
>>
>> It's not that I don't want active development.  Sure, adding new features is 
>> great.  But just because an app hasn't been released in ages doesn't mean it 
>> should be removed from our app list.
>
> Yes, but you're one of the reasons I asked.  "It seems Xiphos is the only 
> actively developed SWORD frontend these days" in #xiphos on 14 Jan.  Similar 
> things were muttered at me a couple days ago, hence my question here.
>
> I'm not looking to get anything knocked off any list.  That said, it would be 
> nice if folks would update the Choosing page once in several blue moons.  
> There are many areas yet unfilled, and quite a number of recently-created or 
> -updated categories that have gone blank.
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Re: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps?

2015-03-12 Thread Konstantin Maslyuk
BibleTime Mini have to get an update and windows phone support in some near 
future. I'm happy for Java brothers but sad for many folks have lack of time 
for development and for me as well.

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It's been observed to me more than once recently that most of the apps have 
gone stagnant, dead, no ongoing development.  How true is this assertion?

Personally I know about only Xiphos, which has been relatively busy other than 
the last couple weeks, and PocketSword, whose 1.4.7 was released in late 
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Re: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps?

2015-03-12 Thread David "Judah's Shadow" Blue
There are also missing apps such as crossconnect (windows 8.x) which falls in 
line somewhere with jsword as it has a full c# reimplementation of the sword 
api's.

And there is a front end for beos I forget the new name, it used to be called 
belogos but had to change due to obvious possible trademark issues. 

There are at least a couple of iSword named front ends out there, one for macs 
that says it's supposed to have an itunes like interface, and one web site 
(isword.org) that has a Google chrome "app" that claims it is based on sword

And I'm making a console based front end called BIBISH that is no where near 
ready for inclusion, but once it is in 1.0 status, it won't get much by way of 
active development after, just bug fixes and updates to new sword releases. I'm 
about to migrate from gitorious to notabug.org in the next couple of months.  

On March 11, 2015 1:30:02 PM EDT, Peter Von Kaehne  wrote:
>Dependent on the responses, it might be time to do some cleaning out of
>the application page of the website. 
>
>  
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>
>It's been observed to me more than once recently that most of the apps
>have gone stagnant, dead, no ongoing development.  How true is this
>assertion?
>
>Personally I know about only Xiphos, which has been relatively busy
>other than the last couple weeks, and PocketSword, whose 1.4.7 was
>released in late January.
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Re: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps?

2015-03-12 Thread jonathon


On 11/03/15 17:49, Peter Von Kaehne wrote:
> No, I agree with that. But some are  dead. Using a well outdated sword 
> format, 
> unable to use any current modules etc.

Probably what is needed are categories:

* Active development;
* Mature, bug fixes only;
* Currently frozen;
* Obsolete;
* No longer supported;

Then list each program under the appropriate category.
"No longer supported", and perhaps "obsolete" should have their own pages.


jonathon



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