Re: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps?
AndBible is going strong. On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 5:57 PM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > It's been observed to me more than once recently that most of the apps > have gone stagnant, dead, no ongoing development. How true is this > assertion? > > Personally I know about only Xiphos, which has been relatively busy other > than the last couple weeks, and PocketSword, whose 1.4.7 was released in > late January. > > ___ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page > ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps?
On 2015-03-11, 16:57 GMT, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > Personally I know about only Xiphos, which has been relatively busy > other than the last couple weeks, and PocketSword, whose 1.4.7 was > released in late January. I would strongly vote for inclusion of https://github.com/zefanja/biblez-ng (aka https://marketplace.firefox.com/app/biblez-desktop) as well. It is still far from feature-competitive with Xiphos et al. and its development is still more or less one-man-show so it is not running ahead with the breakneck speed, on the other hand it is the only way how to get Sword Bibles to my phone (and any other JavaScript-only environment) and it does that job pretty well. Matěj ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps?
Hi Karl, The answer for BPBible is simple: for all intents and purposes, it is currently dead (though, as Openhub shows, I did find time to make a couple of bug fixes early January). Until it supports av11n the number of modules that don't work properly with it will increase. However, I still use it almost exclusively as my Bible software (as do others I know), so it can still be considered "useful". Jon On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 3:57 AM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > It's been observed to me more than once recently that most of the apps > have gone stagnant, dead, no ongoing development. How true is this > assertion? > > Personally I know about only Xiphos, which has been relatively busy other > than the last couple weeks, and PocketSword, whose 1.4.7 was released in > late January. > > ___ > sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org > http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel > Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page > ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps?
On Thu, 2015-03-12 at 00:02 +, Chris Burrell wrote: > Not sure about alkitab, not my project. But for step it is > https://github.com/tyndale/step Step Bible is added. Step as a name was taken already ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] how dead are the apps?
It's been observed to me more than once recently that most of the apps have gone stagnant, dead, no ongoing development. How true is this assertion? Personally I know about only Xiphos, which has been relatively busy other than the last couple weeks, and PocketSword, whose 1.4.7 was released in late January. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps?
And Bible (using Jsword) is actively developed. Bibletime is on/off like much else. Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. März 2015 um 16:57 Uhr Von: "Karl Kleinpaste" An: "sword devel" Betreff: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps? It's been observed to me more than once recently that most of the apps have gone stagnant, dead, no ongoing development. How true is this assertion? Personally I know about only Xiphos, which has been relatively busy other than the last couple weeks, and PocketSword, whose 1.4.7 was released in late January. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps?
I think irrespective of it ability to recognise languages (or rather not) it tells a decent account of ongoing commits in some of the projects listed. So in that i think i can say 'a decent overview' On 11 Mar 2015 19:11, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: > > Peter Von Kaehne wrote: >> >> https://www.openhub.net/orgs/crosswire >> This gives a decent overview of ongoing activity. > > Phooey. Its "decent overview" thinks Xiphos came into existence in 2009 and > is written in Scheme, and I can't find a way to look at the other 5 of its 6 > reviews. I am unconvinced I can trust anything else it says, either. > > DM wrote: >> >> Bible Desktop is very much alive on that criteria alone. Many, many >> downloads every month. > > Likewise Xiphos. Thousands of downloads, and that's just the source tarball > and Win32 installer; there is no way to track RPM installs, but given that > Fedora users get it automatically and Win32 users have to look for it > manually, I presume that RPM installs are substantially higher than Win32. > > Troy wrote: >> >> It's not that I don't want active development. Sure, adding new features is >> great. But just because an app hasn't been released in ages doesn't mean it >> should be removed from our app list. > > Yes, but you're one of the reasons I asked. "It seems Xiphos is the only > actively developed SWORD frontend these days" in #xiphos on 14 Jan. Similar > things were muttered at me a couple days ago, hence my question here. > > I'm not looking to get anything knocked off any list. That said, it would be > nice if folks would update the Choosing page once in several blue moons. > There are many areas yet unfilled, and quite a number of recently-created or > -updated categories that have gone blank. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps?
BibleTime Mini have to get an update and windows phone support in some near future. I'm happy for Java brothers but sad for many folks have lack of time for development and for me as well. -Исходное сообщение- От: "Karl Kleinpaste" Отправлено: 11.03.2015 19:58 Кому: "sword devel" Тема: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps? It's been observed to me more than once recently that most of the apps have gone stagnant, dead, no ongoing development. How true is this assertion? Personally I know about only Xiphos, which has been relatively busy other than the last couple weeks, and PocketSword, whose 1.4.7 was released in late January.___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps?
There are also missing apps such as crossconnect (windows 8.x) which falls in line somewhere with jsword as it has a full c# reimplementation of the sword api's. And there is a front end for beos I forget the new name, it used to be called belogos but had to change due to obvious possible trademark issues. There are at least a couple of iSword named front ends out there, one for macs that says it's supposed to have an itunes like interface, and one web site (isword.org) that has a Google chrome "app" that claims it is based on sword And I'm making a console based front end called BIBISH that is no where near ready for inclusion, but once it is in 1.0 status, it won't get much by way of active development after, just bug fixes and updates to new sword releases. I'm about to migrate from gitorious to notabug.org in the next couple of months. On March 11, 2015 1:30:02 PM EDT, Peter Von Kaehne wrote: >Dependent on the responses, it might be time to do some cleaning out of >the application page of the website. > > > >Gesendet: Mittwoch, 11. März 2015 um 16:57 Uhr >Von: "Karl Kleinpaste" >An: "sword devel" >Betreff: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps? > >It's been observed to me more than once recently that most of the apps >have gone stagnant, dead, no ongoing development. How true is this >assertion? > >Personally I know about only Xiphos, which has been relatively busy >other than the last couple weeks, and PocketSword, whose 1.4.7 was >released in late January. >___ sword-devel mailing >list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to >unsubscribe/change your settings at above page > > > > > >___ >sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org >http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel >Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] how dead are the apps?
On 11/03/15 17:49, Peter Von Kaehne wrote: > No, I agree with that. But some are dead. Using a well outdated sword > format, > unable to use any current modules etc. Probably what is needed are categories: * Active development; * Mature, bug fixes only; * Currently frozen; * Obsolete; * No longer supported; Then list each program under the appropriate category. "No longer supported", and perhaps "obsolete" should have their own pages. jonathon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page