Re: [sword-devel] usfm to osis converter...

[Ryan]

On Mon, 2015-08-03 at 08:00 -0700, David Haslam wrote:
> What would it take to run u2o.py under CygWin ?
> 
> (Assume Python 2.7 is installed with CygWin.)
> 

I don't really know anything about using CygWin, I didn't use anything
special in the u2o.py script though. So as far as I know it wouldn't
take anything other than python and a usfm bible to convert.



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Re: [sword-devel] Delitzsch Hebrew New Testament

[Yedidyah Bar David]

Hi all,

Some time ago I sent the below email to modu...@crosswire.org.

Since then I corresponded with Peter von Kaehne, and it seems that the
legal issues are sorted out.

You can find the current state of my work at [1].

I'd like to get feedback about this, including but not limited to the
technical issues I mentioned in the email below. In particular:

I currently use KJV versification. At some point, as you can see in
the git history, I had a version that includes both the OT (copied
from the project MAPM) and the NT. This didn't work well with any
versification that I tried, and I gave up. Ideally I'd like to have
versification that is KJV for the NT and Masoretic for the OT - I
think most bibles in Israel that include the NT are that way, and do
not use KJV versification for the OT. Not sure what is required to
achieve this.

A provided Makefile generates two versions, with and without Nikkud
(diacritics, aka vowel points). I didn't try much searching with
different sword software, but I have a feeling that searching in the
non-nikkud version works much better in most packages, hence this
duplication.

[1] https://github.com/HebrewNewTestament/HebDelitzsch

Best regards,
-- 
Didi

2015-04-12 23:03 GMT+03:00 Yedidyah Bar David :
> Hi all,
>
> Around 12 years ago a new edition of Delitzsch's translation was published
> by an Israeli NPO called "Streams in the Negev". It was done using QText, a
> now-dead word-processor. The qtext file was then printed and published, and
> I also managed to convert it to text, which I kept untouched for quite some
> years. Then a few years ago I decided to try and make a sword module from
> this. It's now more-or-less ready, at least for a first public draft.
>
> I have a signed letter from the NPO allowing publishing this.
>
> A few people are using it with "The Sword Project for Windows" and with
> And-Bible (on smartphones) successfully.
>
> Various fixes, both compared to the printed version of 2003 and to
> Delitzsch's original (checked against KJV and similar texts) were done. I
> expect more such fixes in the future.
>
> What should I do to have it included in the crosswire repository?
>
> In particular:
>
> 1. Is it enough that I open e.g. a github project to be the official source?
>
> 2. What kind of license is recommended/acceptable/common?
>
> 3. How should it be named? Delitzsch himself had several versions, and over
> the years various variations were published. Will simply DelitzschHebrew be
> good? Anything better?
>
> 4. Some technical issues to deal with/decide, including versification
> (currently KJV), diacritics (current Makefile produces versions both with
> and without), paragraphs (currently none), some day markup Strong's numbers,
> etc. Nothing urgent for now I think, will probably be done in separate
> emails/threads if needed.
>
> Best regards,
> --
> Yedidyah Bar David
>

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Re: [sword-devel] Windows 10 ?

[Gary Holmlund]

On 7/31/2015 1:58 AM, Matěj Cepl wrote:
> On 2015-07-31, 07:13 GMT, Healing Advisor wrote:
>> On 31/07/15 01:11, Brian Schroeder wrote:
>>
>>> I have not done extensive testing, but so far I cannot see any problem
>>> with Xiphos.  It has worked perfectly thus far.
> I have Windows 10 in VM on RHEL-7 and Xiphos seems to work fine 
> (very briefly tested).
>
> Matěj
I installed BibleTime onto a cleanly installed Windows 10 system. It
seems to work fine.

Gary Holmlund


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Re: [sword-devel] usfm to osis converter...

[Peter Von Kaehne]

 

To anser a bit more detailed - USFM is primarily designed to create printed Bibles. Electronic Bible modules have not been that long around and I doubt very much that they ever figured in anyone's imagination during the design of USFM etc. The markup is only vaguely semantic and has ample ideosyncrasies. That aside, there is of course a semantic in creating serial \xts , but each with more than one reference inside. It in essence means that each \xt group is a group of references which belong to each other, while the next one follow a different line of enquiry through the text.

 

Peter

 

In short you will not find anyone willing to create


Gesendet: Montag, 03. August 2015 um 16:50 Uhr
Von: "Peter Von Kaehne" 
An: sword-devel@crosswire.org
Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] usfm to osis converter...



 

It is both correct USFM and it it is what we get to work with.

 

Peter


Gesendet: Montag, 03. August 2015 um 16:47 Uhr
Von: "Michael H" 
An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" 
Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] usfm to osis converter...


I was previously aware of multiple untagged references in \r's but not \x's, but I do see it in the manual.   It seems poor markup to include multiple references per \xt tag. USFM does support multiple \xt tags per \x ... \x* tag.

 
On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Peter von Kaehne  wrote:

On Fri, 2015-07-31 at 14:44 -0500, Michael H wrote:
>
> I haven't worked on it myself,

And I think this is the problem.

Xrefs can take any number of complicated forms. lists, ranges, etc.
They are context dependent - sometimes the xref is only to a verse or a
chapter/verse combo. Without understanding of the meaning of the
separators you are often lost.

Mark 1,2;3 could mean second and third verse of chapter 1 of Mark, it
could mean second verse of chapter 1 of Mark and verse 3 of the current
chapter, it could mean first and second chapter of Mark, and verse 3 of
the current chapter and a whole plethora of other potential readings -
all dependent on what is meant by , and ;.


Peter

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Re: [sword-devel] usfm to osis converter...

[Peter Von Kaehne]

 

It is both correct USFM and it it is what we get to work with.

 

Peter


Gesendet: Montag, 03. August 2015 um 16:47 Uhr
Von: "Michael H" 
An: "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" 
Betreff: Re: [sword-devel] usfm to osis converter...


I was previously aware of multiple untagged references in \r's but not \x's, but I do see it in the manual.   It seems poor markup to include multiple references per \xt tag. USFM does support multiple \xt tags per \x ... \x* tag.

 
On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Peter von Kaehne  wrote:

On Fri, 2015-07-31 at 14:44 -0500, Michael H wrote:
>
> I haven't worked on it myself,

And I think this is the problem.

Xrefs can take any number of complicated forms. lists, ranges, etc.
They are context dependent - sometimes the xref is only to a verse or a
chapter/verse combo. Without understanding of the meaning of the
separators you are often lost.

Mark 1,2;3 could mean second and third verse of chapter 1 of Mark, it
could mean second verse of chapter 1 of Mark and verse 3 of the current
chapter, it could mean first and second chapter of Mark, and verse 3 of
the current chapter and a whole plethora of other potential readings -
all dependent on what is meant by , and ;.


Peter

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Re: [sword-devel] usfm to osis converter...

[Michael H]

I was previously aware of multiple untagged references in \r's but not
\x's, but I do see it in the manual.   It seems poor markup to include
multiple references per \xt tag. USFM does support multiple \xt tags per \x
... \x* tag.

On Sat, Aug 1, 2015 at 1:57 PM, Peter von Kaehne  wrote:

> On Fri, 2015-07-31 at 14:44 -0500, Michael H wrote:
> >
> > I haven't worked on it myself,
>
> And I think this is the problem.
>
> Xrefs can take any number of complicated forms. lists, ranges, etc.
> They are context dependent - sometimes the xref is only to a verse or a
> chapter/verse combo. Without understanding of the meaning of the
> separators you are often lost.
>
> Mark 1,2;3 could mean second and third verse of chapter 1 of Mark, it
> could mean second verse of chapter 1 of Mark and verse 3 of the current
> chapter, it could mean first and second chapter of Mark, and verse 3 of
> the current chapter and a whole plethora of other potential readings -
> all dependent on what is meant by , and ;.
>
> Peter
>
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Re: [sword-devel] usfm to osis converter...

[David Haslam]

What would it take to run u2o.py under CygWin ?

(Assume Python 2.7 is installed with CygWin.)

Best regards.

David (not a Python programmer) Haslam



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