Re: [sword-devel] 1.8, French versifications, modules

2016-03-12 Thread David Haslam
Please don't assume that the canon.h files attached to an old email are up to
date.

There were one or two edits done to the files embedded in the wiki pages
after DomCox first announced this activity.

The wiki pages should have the most up to date content.

Best regards,

David



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Re: [sword-devel] 1.8, French versifications, modules

2016-03-12 Thread David Haslam
i.e. In the thre pages linked from here

https://crosswire.org/wiki/Survey_of_versification_schemes_in_French_Bibles#Canons_proposals_for_The_Sword_Project

David



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Re: [sword-devel] 1.8, French versifications, modules

2016-03-12 Thread DM Smith
Those aren’t canon_*.h files. Those are analysis of them. I went to domcox’s 
website and couldn’t find them there.

In Him,
DM

> On Mar 12, 2016, at 4:17 AM, David Haslam  wrote:
> 
> i.e. In the thre pages linked from here
> 
> https://crosswire.org/wiki/Survey_of_versification_schemes_in_French_Bibles#Canons_proposals_for_The_Sword_Project
> 
> David
> 
> 
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Re: [sword-devel] French versification schemes

2016-03-12 Thread DM Smith
In anticipation of these versifications being added to SWORD lib, I’ve added 
them to JSword. If these are not current, I’ll update them with whatever is 
checked into SWORD.

We still need to add mapping files to and from the KJV for JSword. (Somebody 
will need to do that for SWORD too!) That’ll take a few hours apiece, but is 
not too hard. (I hope.) Doing so takes analysis of Psalm titles, figuring out 
which verses are split, merged or otherwise not present in one or the other. 
The format that JSword and SWORD uses is significantly different. I’ll comment 
the JSword mappings well enough that they can be helpful to creating the SWORD 
mappings.

None of the links to dom.corbex.org  that are mentioned 
below are current. Most give a 404 — Not Found error.

In His Service,
DM

> On Aug 26, 2015, at 3:50 PM, domcox  wrote:
> 
> 
> As I mailed on Sunday, 23rd, I created 3 new versification schemes for French 
> Bibles in Sword:
> * Calvin for the original Bible d'Olivétan and followers, 1560+ Bible de 
> Genève, 1707-1855 Bible David Martin, 1744-1996 Bible Jean-Frederic Ostervald 
> and so on
> * DarbyFR for the French J.N. Darby Bible and revisions
> * Segond for the Louis Segond Bible and modern revisions, 1910, 1978, 2002 
> (NBS), 2007 (SG21)
> For more details, see: 
> http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/Survey_of_versification_schemes_in_French_Bibles
>  
> 
> Attached are the corresponding files canon_calvin.h, canon_darbyfr.h, 
> canon_segond.h, as well as a patch to apply to src/mgr/versificatiomgr.cpp.
> These files can also be downloaded from my website: 
> http://dom.corbex.org
> 
> Packages of Sword and Xiphos for Debian stable (Jessie 8),arch=amd64, based 
> on Sword-1.7.5a1 and including these 3 new versification schemes can be 
> downloaded from the same location:
> http://dom.corbex.org/pkg. 
> Please note that you'll have to remove your existing libsword before 
> installing these packages.
> 
> Verifications:
> 
> For verification and functional tests, I used or made 3 Bibles in OSIS 
> format. A Darby Bible made with the tools developped by Sebastien Koechlin 
> from http://koocotte.org/darby, a D. Martin Bible from 
> http://www.martin1707.com and a L. Segond Bible from 
> http://www.richardlemay.com/AUD/BIB/LSG/Index.htm. 
> Scripts for downloading and importing those Bibles are available at my 
> website: 
> http://dom.corbex.org/scripts
> as well as modules ready to use : 
> http://dom.corbex.org/sword 
> 
> osis2mod was used to convert each Bible into a Sword module, then emptyvss 
> was run to detect empty verses. Verses causing problems with the previous 
> versification schemes were checked with either Diatheke or Xiphos.
> 
> #1. Martin 1707 (canon Calvin):
> osis2mod reports Acts.19.41 as a supplemental verse. That's correct, 
> Acts.19.40 is split in 2 verses in the source file, although it is not in the 
> printed Bible. Emptyvss does not detect any empty verses.
> 
> #2. Darby 1975 (canon DarbyFR)
> osis2mod run without errors. Emptyvss reports 3 empty verses. That's correct, 
> those 3 verses are also empty in the printed Bible, a footnote informs that 
> they are only present in the Textus Receptus.
> 
> #3. Segond 1910 (canon Segond)
> osis2mod reports Mark.10.53 as a supplemental verse. Depending of the 
> revision of the Segond 1910, Mark.10.52 is divided in 2 verses or not, it is 
> here. Emptyvss reports 4 empty verses from 2Tim.3.14 to 2.Tim.3.17, certainly 
> a glitch in the digitization process, the 4 verses, although present in the 
> printed Bible, are not in the source file.
> 
> --Dominique
> 
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Re: [sword-devel] 1.8, French versifications, modules

2016-03-12 Thread DM Smith
Of course that is possible. The embedded files are no longer available at the 
website. I’ve used what was in the email, but I’ll verify once the files are 
checked into SWORD lib. That is actually quite easy now.

In Him,
DM

> On Mar 12, 2016, at 4:15 AM, David Haslam  wrote:
> 
> Please don't assume that the canon.h files attached to an old email are up to
> date.
> 
> There were one or two edits done to the files embedded in the wiki pages
> after DomCox first announced this activity.
> 
> The wiki pages should have the most up to date content.
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> David
> 
> 
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Re: [sword-devel] French versification schemes

2016-03-12 Thread DM Smith
Konstantin,

I’ll be adding such mappings to JSword. I’ll do my best to comment them well so 
that they can be used as a basis for the SWORD mappings. Unfortunately, there 
is little resemblance between the two formats.

Below is an example for the Vulgate.

Working together in Christ,
DM Smith

# Vulgate => KJV
# pv=canonical title; v=verse; a,b etc = part verses.
# created by TyndaleSTEP at gmail dot com DIB 2013
# updated by DM Smith

# KJV's verse is split in two
Ps.2.12=Ps.2.12!a
Ps.2.13=Ps.2.12!b

# Has canonical title in KJV that is separate verse
Ps.3.1=Ps.3.1!pv
Ps.3.2=Ps.3.1!v
Ps.3.3-Ps.3.9=Ps.3.2-Ps.3.8

# Has canonical title in KJV that is separate verse
Ps.4.1=Ps.4.1!pv
Ps.4.2=Ps.4.1!v
Ps.4.3-Ps.4.8=Ps.4.2-Ps.4.7
# KJV's verse is split in two
Ps.4.9=Ps.4.8!a
Ps.4.10=Ps.4.8!b

# Has canonical title in KJV that is separate verse
Ps.5.1=Ps.5.1!pv
Ps.5.2=Ps.5.1!v
Ps.5.3-Ps.5.13=Ps.5.2-Ps.5.12

# Has canonical title in KJV that is separate verse
Ps.6.1=Ps.6.1!pv
Ps.6.2=Ps.6.1!v
Ps.6.3-Ps.6.11=Ps.6.2-Ps.6.10

# Has canonical title in KJV that is separate verse
Ps.7.1=Ps.7.1!pv
Ps.7.2=Ps.7.1!v
Ps.7.3-Ps.7.18=Ps.7.2-Ps.7.17

# Has canonical title in KJV that is separate verse
Ps.8.1=Ps.8.1!pv
Ps.8.2=Ps.8.1!v
Ps.8.3-Ps.8.10=Ps.8.2-Ps.8.9

# Has canonical title in KJV that is separate verse
Ps.9.1=Ps.9.1!pv
Ps.9.2=Ps.9.1!v
Ps.9.3-Ps.9.21=Ps.9.2-Ps.9.20
# Vulgate's Ps 9 contains KJV's Psalm 10. Following chapters shifted from here
# Need to explicitly map verse 0 for chapter shifts
# Here we want it to be shown at the same point as verse 1
Ps.9.22=Ps.10.0
Ps.9.22=Ps.10.1
Ps.9.23-Ps.9.39=Ps.10.2-Ps.10.18

# Has canonical title in KJV that is separate verse
# First full chapter shift in Psalms
Ps.10.0=Ps.11.0
Ps.10.1=Ps.11.1!pv
Ps.10.2=Ps.11.1!v
Ps.10.3-Ps.10.8=Ps.11.2-Ps.11.7

# Has canonical title in KJV that is separate verse
Ps.11.0=Ps.12.0
Ps.11.1=Ps.12.1!pv
Ps.11.2=Ps.12.1!v
Ps.11.3-Ps.11.9=Ps.12.2-Ps.12.8

# Has canonical title in KJV; Wholly in verse 1
Ps.12.0-Ps.12.6=Ps.13.0-Ps.13.6

# Has canonical title in KJV; Wholly in verse 1
Ps.13.0-Ps.13.7=Ps.14.0-Ps.14.7

# Has canonical title in KJV; Wholly in verse 1
Ps.14.0-Ps.14.5=Ps.15.0-Ps.15.5

# Has canonical title in KJV; Wholly in verse 1
Ps.15.0-Ps.15.9=Ps.16.0-Ps.16.9
Ps.15.10!a=Ps.16.10
Ps.15.10!b=Ps.16.11

# Has canonical title in KJV; Wholly in verse 1
Ps.16.0-Ps.16.15=Ps.17.0-Ps.17.15

# Has canonical title in KJV that is separate verse
Ps.17.0=Ps.18.0
Ps.17.1=Ps.18.1!pv
Ps.17.2=Ps.18.1!v
Ps.17.3-Ps.17.51=Ps.18.2-Ps.18.50

# Has canonical title in KJV that is separate verse
Ps.18.0=Ps.19.0
Ps.18.1=Ps.19.1!pv
Ps.18.2=Ps.19.1!v
Ps.18.3-Ps.18.15=Ps.19.2-Ps.19.16

# Has canonical title in KJV that is separate verse
Ps.19.0=Ps.20.0
Ps.19.1=Ps.20.1!pv
Ps.19.2=Ps.20.1!v
Ps.19.3-Ps.19.10=Ps.20.2-Ps.20.9

# Has canonical title in KJV that is separate verse
Ps.20.0=Ps.21.0
Ps.20.1=Ps.21.1!pv
Ps.20.2=Ps.21.1!v
Ps.20.3-Ps.20.14=Ps.21.2-Ps.21.13

# Has canonical title in KJV that is separate verse
Ps.21.0=Ps.22.0
Ps.21.1=Ps.22.1!pv
Ps.21.2=Ps.22.1!v
Ps.21.3-Ps.21.32=Ps.22.2-Ps.22.31

# Has canonical title in KJV; Wholly in verse 1
Ps.22.0-Ps.22.6=Ps.23.0-Ps.23.6

# Has canonical title in KJV; Wholly in verse 1
Ps.23.0-Ps.23.10=Ps.24.0-Ps.24.10

# Has canonical title in KJV; Wholly in verse 1
Ps.24.0-Ps.24.22=Ps.25.0-Ps.25.22

# Has canonical title in KJV; Wholly in verse 1
Ps.25.0-Ps.25.12=Ps.26.0-Ps.26.12

# Has canonical title in KJV; Wholly in verse 1
Ps.26.0-Ps.26.14=Ps.27.0-Ps.27.14

# Has canonical title in KJV; Wholly in verse 1
Ps.27.0-Ps.27.9=Ps.28.0-Ps.28.9

# Has canonical title in KJV; Wholly in verse 1
Ps.28.0-Ps.28.11=Ps.29.0-Ps.29.11

# Has canonical title in KJV that is separate verse
Ps.29.0=Ps.30.0
Ps.29.1=Ps.30.1!pv
Ps.29.2=Ps.30.1!v
Ps.29.3-Ps.29.13=Ps.30.2-Ps.30.12

# Has canonical title in KJV that is separate verse
Ps.30.0=Ps.31.0
Ps.30.1=Ps.31.1!pv
Ps.30.2=Ps.31.1!v
Ps.30.3-Ps.30.25=Ps.31.2-Ps.31.24

# Has canonical title in KJV; Wholly in verse 1
Ps.31.0-Ps.31.11=Ps.32.0-Ps.32.11

# Has no canonical title in KJV
Ps.32.0-Ps.32.22=Ps.33.0-Ps.33.22

# Has canonical title in KJV that is separate verse
Ps.33.0=Ps.34.0
Ps.33.1=Ps.34.1!pv
Ps.33.2=Ps.34.1!v
Ps.33.3-Ps.33.23=Ps.34.2-Ps.34.22

# Has canonical title in KJV; Wholly in verse 1
Ps.34.0-Ps.34.28=Ps.35.0-Ps.35.28

# Has canonical title in KJV that is separate verse
Ps.35.0=Ps.36.0
Ps.35.1=Ps.36.1!pv
Ps.35.2=Ps.36.1!v
Ps.35.3-Ps.35.13=Ps.36.2-Ps.36.12

# Has canonical title in KJV; Wholly in verse 1
Ps.36.0-Ps.36.40=Ps.37.0-Ps.37.40

# Has canonical title in KJV that is separate verse
Ps.37.0=Ps.38.0
Ps.37.1=Ps.38.1!pv
Ps.37.2=Ps.38.1!v
Ps.37.3-Ps.37.23=Ps.38.2-Ps.38.22

# Has canonical title in KJV that is separate verse
Ps.38.0=Ps.39.0
Ps.38.1=Ps.39.1!pv
Ps.38.2=Ps.39.1!v
Ps.38.3-Ps.38.14=Ps.39.2-Ps.39.13

# Has canonical title in KJV that is separate verse
Ps.39.0=Ps.40.0
Ps.39.1=Ps.40.1!pv
Ps.39.2=Ps.40.1!v
Ps.39.3-Ps.39.18=Ps.40.2-Ps.40.17

# Has canonical title in KJV that

Re: [sword-devel] 1.8, French versifications, modules

2016-03-12 Thread Dominique Corbex
On Fri, 11 Mar 2016 08:00:58 +
Peter von Kaehne  wrote:

> 
> This is just to say as no one has voiced any objections to domcox' s French 
> versifications i will now actively use these if suitable modules are 
> submitted.

Hi!

Please find attached the 3 versifications scheme for French Protestant Bibles, 
details are on the wiki:
canon_calvin.h  https://crosswire.org/wiki/Canon_calvin.h
canon_darbyfr.h https://crosswire.org/wiki/Canon_darbyfr.h
canon_segond.h  https://crosswire.org/wiki/Canon_segond.h

canon_calvin.h is for French Bibles from 1560 to our days based on the
'Textus Receptus' and employing the versification scheme introduced by
Robert 'Stephanus' Estienne in 1553. Although I've not yet found a
facsimile to validate this point, it may also fit the Geneva Bible as
it was the first English Bible to use verse numbers also based on the
work of Stephanus (Robert Estienne of Paris), source Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geneva_Bible

canon_darbyfr is for French Darby Bibles. German and English Darby V11n
differs slightly. Darby worked on the Pau-Vevey French translation in
Pau, Southern France but the work was done primarily for the numerous
Brethren in French-Switzerland. This v11n may also fit the Italian
Translation as a translation based on Darby's French work was completed
by Plymouth Brethren members, the Italian NT was first issued in 1890.
It is still in print (2008). Source Wikipedia:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Darby_Bible

canon_segond.h is for revisions of the French Bible translated by L. Segond.
The Segond 1910 still is the most widely used by French Protestants.


In His name,
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domcox 
/**
 *
 *  canon_segond.h -	Versification data for French Louis Segond original
 *  and revised Bibles
 *
 * $Id: canon_segond.h 2015-08-22 22:52:34 domcox $
 *
 * Copyright 1998-2013 CrossWire Bible Society (http://www.crosswire.org)
 *	CrossWire Bible Society
 *	P. O. Box 2528
 *	Tempe, AZ  85280-2528
 *
 * This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify it
 * under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by the
 * Free Software Foundation version 2.
 *
 * This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, but
 * WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of
 * MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE.  See the GNU
 * General Public License for more details.
 *
 */

#ifndef CANON_SEGOND_H
#define CANON_SEGOND_H

SWORD_NAMESPACE_START

// Versification system: Segond

// Book order: Gen Exod Lev Num Deut Josh Judg Ruth 1Sam 2Sam 1Kgs 2Kgs 1Chr 2Chr Ezra Neh Esth Job Ps Prov Eccl Song Isa Jer Lam Ezek Dan Hos Joel Amos Obad Jonah Mic Nah Hab Zeph Hag Zech Mal Matt Mark Luke John Acts Rom 1Cor 2Cor Gal Eph Phil Col 1Thess 2Thess 1Tim 2Tim Titus Phlm Heb Jas 1Pet 2Pet 1John 2John 3John Jude Rev

// Because different editions of the L. Segond Bibles employing this versification system differ subtly in versification, this is not based on any single edition, but on multiple editions of these Bibles.


/**
 * [on]tbooks_segond - initialize static instance for all canonical text names
 *		and chapmax
 *
 * for otbooks_segond, use otbooks
 *
 * for ntbooks_segond, use ntbooks
 *
 **/

/**
 *	Maximum verses per chapter
 */

int vm_segond[] = {
  // Genesis
  31, 25, 24, 26, 32, 22, 24, 22, 29, 32,
  32, 20, 18, 24, 21, 16, 27, 33, 38, 18,
  34, 24, 20, 67, 34, 35, 46, 22, 35, 43,
  55, 32, 20, 31, 29, 43, 36, 30, 23, 23,
  57, 38, 34, 34, 28, 34, 31, 22, 33, 26,
  // Exodus
  22, 25, 22, 31, 23, 30, 29, 28, 35, 29,
  10, 51, 22, 31, 27, 36, 16, 27, 25, 26,
  36, 31, 33, 18, 40, 37, 21, 43, 46, 38,
  18, 35, 23, 35, 35, 38, 29, 31, 43, 38,
  // Leviticus
  17, 16, 17, 35, 26, 23, 38, 36, 24, 20,
  47, 8, 59, 57, 33, 34, 16, 30, 37, 27,
  24, 33, 44, 23, 55, 46, 34,
  // Numbers
  54, 34, 51, 49, 31, 27, 89, 26, 23, 36,
  35, 16, 33, 45, 41, 50, 13, 32, 22, 29,
  35, 41, 30, 25, 18, 65, 23, 31, 39, 17,
  54, 42, 56, 29, 34, 13,
  // Deuteronomy
  46, 37, 29, 49, 33, 25, 26, 20, 29, 22,
  32, 32, 18, 29, 23, 22, 20, 22, 21, 20,
  23, 30, 25, 22, 19, 19, 26, 68, 29, 20,
  30, 52, 29, 12,
  // Joshua
  18, 24, 17, 24, 15, 27, 26, 35, 27, 43,
  23, 24, 33, 15, 63, 10, 18, 28, 51, 9,
  45, 34, 16, 33,
  // Judges
  36, 23, 31, 24, 31, 40, 25, 35, 57, 18,
  40, 15, 25, 20, 20, 31, 13, 31, 30, 48,
  25,
  // Ruth
  22, 23, 18, 22,
  // I Samuel
  28, 36, 21, 22, 12, 21, 17, 22, 27, 27,
  15, 25, 23, 52, 35, 23, 58, 30, 24, 43,
  15, 23, 28, 23, 44, 25, 12, 25, 11, 31,
  13,
  // II Samuel
  27, 32, 39, 12, 25, 23, 29, 18, 13, 19,
  27, 31, 39, 33, 37, 23, 29, 33, 43, 26,
  22, 51, 39, 25,
  // I Kings
  53, 

Re: [sword-devel] French versification schemes

2016-03-12 Thread Dominique Corbex
On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 09:46:07 -0500
DM Smith  wrote:

> In anticipation of these versifications being added to SWORD lib, I’ve added 
> them to JSword. If these are not current, I’ll update them with whatever is 
> checked into SWORD

They are current, only a few changes to comments were made in canon_calvin.h

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Re: [sword-devel] French versification schemes

2016-03-12 Thread Dominique Corbex
On Sat, 12 Mar 2016 10:04:47 -0500
DM Smith  wrote:

> I’ll be adding such mappings to JSword. I’ll do my best to comment them well 
> so that they can be used as a basis for the SWORD mappings.

I've started to work on mappings, I identified 1487 verses to be remapped from 
canon_segond.h to KJV. Based on the Vulgate example, I may write the mapping 
for JSword, I have yet to figure out how to do it for Sword:)


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Re: [sword-devel] French versification schemes

2016-03-12 Thread Michael H
Whether a module will open depends on the conf file. The threads I've seen
suggest the conf should exclude all frontends pre sword 1.8 if they use
these versifications.

On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 3:33 PM, Kahunapule Michael Johnson <
kahunap...@ebible.org> wrote:

> If I use the new versifications to create Bibles, using the updated Sword
> library and osis2mod that includes these versifications, will those modules
> work properly with existing older Sword applications using older versions
> of the Sword library? Or should I wait for all field applications to be
> updated (which probably won't actually happen)?
>
>
> On 08/26/2015 09:50 AM, domcox wrote:
>
> As I mailed on Sunday, 23rd, I created 3 new versification schemes for French 
> Bibles in Sword:
> * Calvin for the original Bible d'Olivétan and followers, 1560+ Bible de 
> Genève, 1707-1855 Bible David Martin, 1744-1996 Bible Jean-Frederic Ostervald 
> and so on
> * DarbyFR for the French J.N. Darby Bible and revisions
> * Segond for the Louis Segond Bible and modern revisions, 1910, 1978, 2002 
> (NBS), 2007 (SG21)
> For more details, see: 
> http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/Survey_of_versification_schemes_in_French_Bibles
>
> Attached are the corresponding files canon_calvin.h, canon_darbyfr.h, 
> canon_segond.h, as well as a patch to apply to src/mgr/versificatiomgr.cpp.
> These files can also be downloaded from my website: http://dom.corbex.org
>
> Packages of Sword and Xiphos for Debian stable (Jessie 8),arch=amd64, based 
> on Sword-1.7.5a1 and including these 3 new versification schemes can be 
> downloaded from the same location:http://dom.corbex.org/pkg.
> Please note that you'll have to remove your existing libsword before 
> installing these packages.
>
> Verifications:
>
> For verification and functional tests, I used or made 3 Bibles in OSIS 
> format. A Darby Bible made with the tools developped by Sebastien Koechlin 
> from http://koocotte.org/darby, a D. Martin Bible from 
> http://www.martin1707.com and a L. Segond Bible from 
> http://www.richardlemay.com/AUD/BIB/LSG/Index.htm.
> Scripts for downloading and importing those Bibles are available at my 
> website: http://dom.corbex.org/scripts
> as well as modules ready to use : http://dom.corbex.org/sword
>
> osis2mod was used to convert each Bible into a Sword module, then emptyvss 
> was run to detect empty verses. Verses causing problems with the previous 
> versification schemes were checked with either Diatheke or Xiphos.
>
> #1. Martin 1707 (canon Calvin):
> osis2mod reports Acts.19.41 as a supplemental verse. That's correct, 
> Acts.19.40 is split in 2 verses in the source file, although it is not in the 
> printed Bible. Emptyvss does not detect any empty verses.
>
> #2. Darby 1975 (canon DarbyFR)
> osis2mod run without errors. Emptyvss reports 3 empty verses. That's correct, 
> those 3 verses are also empty in the printed Bible, a footnote informs that 
> they are only present in the Textus Receptus.
>
> #3. Segond 1910 (canon Segond)
> osis2mod reports Mark.10.53 as a supplemental verse. Depending of the 
> revision of the Segond 1910, Mark.10.52 is divided in 2 verses or not, it is 
> here. Emptyvss reports 4 empty verses from 2Tim.3.14 to 2.Tim.3.17, certainly 
> a glitch in the digitization process, the 4 verses, although present in the 
> printed Bible, are not in the source file.
>
> --Dominique
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