Re: [sword-devel] osis ref syntax for GkEsth & AddDan

[John Dudeck]

Karl,


I was referring to what was packaged with Xiphos 4.0.5 or 4.0.6a. I don't think I have my notes any more about what didn't work, 
but that's a moot point now. I just tried the latest osis2mod.exe in Xiphos 4.1.0 and it seems to do what I expect. At least it shows 
Segond as one of the versifications, which was missing before.


Thanks for all the good work.


> On 06/05/2018 07:30 PM, John Dudeck wrote:
> the tools in Xiphos seemed to be either obsolete or something was wrong, and was unable 
> to use them.
> 
> They are surely as recent as anything can possibly be in Sword. You'll have to detail what went wrong so 
> that some sense can be made of how they failed.


John Dudeck
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Re: [sword-devel] osis ref syntax for GkEsth & AddDan

[Karl Kleinpaste]

On 06/05/2018 07:30 PM, John Dudeck wrote:
> the tools in Xiphos seemed to be either obsolete or something was
> wrong, and was unable to use them.

They are surely as recent as anything can possibly be in Sword. You'll
have to detail what went wrong so that some sense can be made of how
they failed.
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Re: [sword-devel] osis ref syntax for GkEsth & AddDan

[John Dudeck]

Great, this is what I needed to know.


In the past, ie. over a year ago, I found that the tools in Xiphos seemed to be either obsolete or something was wrong, and was 
unable to use them. It is more important to me to have a reliable platform than to have the latest version. So I have been using 
1.7.0-1 from the Crosswire site. On the other hand, I really do need the Louis Segond versification support.


Thanks again.


John


> On Mon, Jun 4, 2018 at 1:17 PM Dominique Corbex  wrote:
> On Thu, 31 May 2018 15:36:16 -0400
> "John Dudeck"  wrote:
> 
> > 3) Where do I find the latest Windows utilities that support all the versifications? The 
> latest I can find is 1.7.0-1 on the crosswire web site. I saw the reference to Greg Helling's 
> site which is currently down.
> 
> Dear John,
> 
> Greg's site is still down, but if you download Xiphos 4.1.0 from
> https://github.com/crosswire/xiphos/releases, you should find a
> complete set of Sword 1.8.1 tools in the Crosswire directory.
> 
> The Xiphos Developpers provide win32 and win64 binaries as well.
> 
> FYI on the pedigree: the ones packaged with Xiphos and the ones I package directly are 
> identical. They come from the same mingw{32,64}-sword package available to anyone who is 
> able to download the Fedora RPM and fetch the files from there as well.
> 
> Also, my personal "config" directory on Github should allow anyone with Vagrant and Ansible 
> installed on their local system the ability to recreate my packages directly. It's just a single 
> command ("vagrant up") in the appropriate directory and the packages will be installed in a VM 
> on your system, the zip files will be generated, and the results will be posted back to the directory 
> you're running the commands in.
> 
> --Greg


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Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: GerLeoNA28

[David Haslam]

This module GerLeoNA28 is still version 1.0 so it does not appear to be an 
update.

Please check to see if the script made a mistake.


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> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded GerLeoNA28.
> 
> This is is an updated version of GerLeoNA28.
> 
> Many thanks to Thomas for the hard work.
> 
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Re: [sword-devel] Module upload: GerLeoRP05

[David Haslam]

This module is now version 1.1 so shows under updates in Xiphos.


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> This is to announce that we have just now uploaded GerLeoRP05.
> 
> This is is an updated version of GerLeoRP05.
> 
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> 
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Re: [sword-devel] Berean Bible

[Karl Kleinpaste]

On 06/05/2018 05:50 AM, Martin Denham wrote:
> Berean Bible OT is now available and it does seem to be here
>  and here
>  although I am not sure if
> everything you require is there yet.

Yes, they announced partial OT support this past weekend. I have
produced full OT+NT regular and interlinear modules but the necessary
tables to provide paragraph breaks, headings, and footnote placement
weren't provided for OT yet -- later this year, they say. So what I have
so far is Feature=NoParagraphs (VPL) of very basic regular and
interlinear texts, BSBdraft and BIBdraft. I've got more ideas about
better markup, notably that Strong's numbers can interfere with lemma
display (a Xiphos-specific concern), so I'm still in-progress on these.

An unexpected hassle: OT interlinear display suffers from the fact that
Hebrew is more compact than English, with the result that the English
content is space-constrained by the Hebrew, leading to illegible English
overlap. Still working out whether there's anything I can do about that.
At the moment, the content is marked up as original language as main
plus English as lemmatized interlinear, but I might simply turn that
around, which would make the problem go away.
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Re: [sword-devel] Berean Bible

[Martin Denham]

I have been told by the same And Bible user that the Berean Bible OT is now
available and it does seem to be here 
and here  although I am not sure if
everything you require is there yet.

Martin


On 27 May 2018 at 21:39, Karl Kleinpaste  wrote:

> On 05/26/2018 06:49 AM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote:
>
> looking forward to seeing if I can produce a module that makes the
> interlinear really work well
>
> I'm experimenting with this content. I'm rather liking what's being
> produced.
> http://karl.kleinpaste.org/.../BIBnt-1.gif
> http://karl.kleinpaste.org/.../BIBnt-2.gif
> It's incomplete so far, lacking paragraph breaks and headings, for
> example. I have to figure out how to get those details out of the .xlsx
> tables provided so as to inject them into the resulting content as a
> post-construction automated edit. But this somewhat raw construction took
> less than an hour.
>
> It's kind of a joy to work with completely regularized content. Copy/paste
> selected columns from original .xlsx content, export as CSV, then script
> the auto-edited component access. Very straightforward, I generate this
> kind of thing in my sleep. I wish all providers could be so conscientious.
>
> Downside is that they have their own Greek lexicon as well as their own
> morphological parse content. The parse data appears original on their part;
> the Strong's-ish refs have intersection and overlap but clearly also have
> inconsistencies with regular Strong's. So I am also making lexdict modules
> to go along with it -- those were *easy* oh my goodness -- but in the
> latter case, it's going to induce me to make some updates to Xiphos so that
> Strong's and morph choices are associated per-Bible rather than being a
> general app-wide preference. At least this will also induce the removal of
> some crude special case code for NASB lex that will never have reason to
> see the light of day.
>
> Producing a module for their ordinary study Bible will be easier due to
> not having need to construct keyed content. What I really wanted for now
> was the real interlinear.
>
> I'm not intending to make this work publicly available, because (as
> expressed before) it's NT only and it will just have to be obsoleted as
> soon as they finish OT, hence the name BIBnt. But if anyone wants a look
> privately, let me know.
>
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