Re: [sword-devel] YouVersion application for facebook

[Wes Widner]

In most Facebook apps ,
the frontend (html,javascript,css) is completely separate from the backend
(data access, sessions, etc.).

I would love to see two distinct development paths emerge here for frontend
and backend using something like json-rpc  as a glue
the two together.

-Wes


On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Greg Hellings wrote:

> On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 9:20 AM, David Haslam 
> wrote:
> >
> > "As of July 2010,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook Facebook  has
> more
> > than 500 million active users, which is about one person for every
> fourteen
> > in the world."
>
> As of September Facebook passed Google as the most used website in the
> world.  And, for the record, 500 million active users comes in at
> about 1/3 of all Internet users around the globe.
>
> Now moving on to other issues from David's post, there is great
> possibility here, I feel.  There is also one major caveat: From what I
> know of Facebook apps, which is admittedly not terribly much, they are
> written entirely in PHP.  See other threads regarding the status of
> our SWIG bindings in PHP.
>
> --Greg
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Re: [sword-devel] YouVersion application for facebook

[Wes Widner]

Here is some great commentary to go along with it:
http://confidentchristianity.blogspot.com/2009/11/social-ethics-for-social-network.html

-Wes


On Sat, Nov 13, 2010 at 10:20 AM, David Haslam wrote:

>
> "As of July 2010,  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Facebook Facebook  has
> more
> than 500 million active users, which is about one person for every fourteen
> in the world."
>
> Posted without comment.
>
> David
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Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

[Wes Widner]

I think the size issue could be solved somewhat if we could get the module
loading system to download and open modules from the SD card rather than
having them bundled into the application's .apk

Also, for what it's worth, I want to throw my vote in for using libsword via
JNI.

-Wes


On Sun, Aug 29, 2010 at 8:18 PM, David Forslund  wrote:

>  One other request is to try to reduce the size of the application.  It is
> over 8Mbytes on my Droid and is one of the largest applications on the phone
> (around the size of Google Maps).Other Biblereaders are significantly
> smaller.   I would hope the size could be reduced.  I don't know if going to
> the native libsword would be smaller or not.
>
> Thanks,
>
>
> Dave
> On 8/29/2010 7:04 AM, SonWon wrote:
>
> Just my opinion but I am all for more speed  ;)  I use the reader during
> sermons and some speakers move from Bible text to Bible text quite fast.
>  Having a history feature tracking each verse is useful for later review.
>  Just my two sense.  :)
>
> On Sat, Aug 28, 2010 at 11:33 PM, Kenneth Arnold wrote:
>
>> Hi Martin and Troy,
>>
>> I finally got the AndBible source built; I needed to get the jsword source
>> and also raise the memory limit for Eclipse--it thrashed and eventually
>> crashed in the linker/dex step. There's still a dex warning that floods the
>> Console, but it works on my Droid X. I made a few minor modifications to
>> ensure I could, but nothing serious yet.
>>
>> Major things I'd like to work on as a user are navigation, continuous
>> scrolling, and verse number sync. Also, do you think we should replace the
>> backend with native libsword? That might help formatting and speed, but I
>> don't know how deeply it's woven into the code. The Bishop code could be a
>> useful example if we decide to go that way.
>>
>> Should we continue discussion on this list?
>>
>> -Ken (mobile)
>>
>>  On Aug 26, 2010 1:39 AM, "Troy A. Griffitts" 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Dear Ken,
>>
>> Thank you for the debug.  I also have had trouble with the installer and
>> haven't had time to look into it.
>>
>> The history is that I build Bishop as a sort of proof of concept for the
>> java-jni bindings for Android.  I mostly work in the engine code.  The
>> jni binding code I kept in SWORD SVN and the Bishop code I just backed
>> up occasionally to our server.  Last year my drive crashed and I lost
>> some work but might have pieced it all back together.  Here is an email
>> I sent to Gary with links to all my stuff.
>>
>> __
>>
>> After last year when I started the work I had a harddrive die on my
>> laptop.  I had been backing up the work regularly, but lost about 2
>> weeks of work in the crash.  I used a recovery tool to salvage many of
>> the files from the bishop project and think I may have close to what is
>> in the apk.  Here are my resources if you want to try to piece things
>> together:
>>
>> Lastest binary when I stopped, dated 11-18-2009:
>>
>> http://crosswire.org/~scribe/bishop.apk
>>  Latest backup of source, dated 10-31-2009:
>> http://crosswire.org/~scribe/bishop-20091031.tar.gz
>>
>> Latest binary after reconstructing source and I think some small new
>> work (I think this is built with debug symbols in the native library so
>> it's a little bigger):
>>
>> http://crosswire.org/~scribe/bishop2.apk
>>  Current backup of source which built the above:
>> http://crosswire.org/~scribe/bishop-20100804.tar.gz
>>
>> Please excuse my ignorance of Android programming.  I am fumbling
>> through it all.
>>
>> I remember having trouble with the InstallMgr.  It sometimes connects
>> and downloads and other times it does not.  I thought it might be the
>> limited memory on my G1 or some trouble with the timing of the FTP code
>> in the native library.  I've found serious bugs in Android's system
>> calls, (e.g. memccpy) and reported it to them, but they still haven't
>> fixed it.  I use my own version in the ftp lib to avoid the bug.  That
>> is where I stopped-- thinking I needed to debug this ftp intermittent
>> issue.  I didn't compare how well the older .apk works versus the newer
>> .apk.  Maybe the older version worked better?  Or maybe a newer version
>> of Android or new phone works better?
>>
>> Let me know what you find.
>>
>> Troy
>>
>>
>>
>> On 08/24/2010 09:01 PM, Kenneth Arnold wrote:
>>  > I just got an Android phone, and after seeing the...
>>
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Re: [sword-devel] Xiphos : copy'n'paste to facebook produces Chinese !

[Wes Widner]

David What about pasting into a hex editor so we can get an idea of the
actual bytes that are being spit out from the clip board?

Karl, Xiphos's special copy setup is just that, special. Either way, no need
to go berserk about it. Even if another system is to blame it is still a
good idea to prove it to be such instead of "shooting the messenger" as it
were.

-Wes


On Wed, Jun 30, 2010 at 11:32 AM, David Haslam wrote:

>
> I just installed Xiphos in my wife's Windows 7 Toshiba notebook.
>
> Copy (ctrl-C) from a verse and paste (ctrl-V) into a new BT Yahoo! Webmail
> message produced Chinese looking stuff.
>
> I therefore conclude that the bug is NOT restricted to Windows XP, as
> suggested by an earlier respondant.
>
> How is it that such quirky behaviour has not been reported for any other
> Windows application?
>
> I'm still not satisfied that the answers I have been given by members of
> the
> Xiphos team are correct.
>
> David
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Re: [sword-devel] curl.h missing ?

[Wes Widner]

Here is a PDF  regarding
getting libcurl to work in Visual Studio. It should help get you pointed in
the right direction.

-Wes


On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 3:05 PM, Wolfgang Schultz
wrote:

> Hello,
>
> i want to compile the sword engine with Visual Studio 2010.
>
> The source is checked out from : https://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/
>
> Unfortunately i get two errors :-(
>
> Error   44  error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'curl/curl.h': No
> such
> file or directory   [...]\projects\zefania\sword\src\mgr\curlftpt.cpp
> 28  1   libsword
> Error   45  error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'curl/curl.h': No
> such
> file or directory
> []\projects\zefania\sword\src\mgr\curlhttpt.cpp 27  1
> libsword
>
>
> My question is: Where can i get that curl.h  ?
>
> wolfgang
>
> http://www.zefania.de
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Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD

[Wes Widner]

Troy,

Is there any chance we could start up a seperate project/repo for an Android
front-end?

Now that I'm done with my project (flashcard clone for Android) I would love
to help out with an Android Bible app. Especially since I've begun to notice
the abrupt shortcomings of the other Android Bible apps.

-Wes


On Mon, May 17, 2010 at 12:43 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:

>  Hey Joey,
>
> Yeah, It's still slowly making progress.  All work for the JNI wrapper of
> the SWORD lib for Android is checked into SVN under the bindings folder of
> the lib source if you'd like to play.  There are a few emails on sword-devel
> about how to compile it, which I'm sure you could file with a quick search.
> The actual end user application isn't checked in anywhere, as it is just a
> bunch of very basic calls to the engine to grab a chapter of text, search,
> install a module, etc., as a test of the bindings.  A nicely designed user
> interface is needed.  Hope to have more time to spend on it after I finish
> some not-so-fun-but-necessary tasks on other projects.
>
> Troy
>
>
>
>
> On 05/17/2010 09:04 AM, Joe Dobrik wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I hope I am at the right place to enquire if anyone is working on this
> project and if there is any progress made on it since last October?
> As many new phone came out recently running Android 2 it would be great to
> have it available on there too.
>
> Thanks,
>
> joey d.
> <><
>
>  Re: [sword-devel] Android SWORD
>
> Troy A. Griffitts
> Wed, 21 Oct 2009 01:09:21 -0700
>
> A quick update on Android progress.
>
>
> o  Basic Bible navigation and display are working, albeit not pretty.
> o  Text-to-Speech functionality is added.
> o  All methods from the engine are now completely wrapped to the same
> swordorb.idl interface we use for SWORDWeb's Java<-CORBA->C++ bridge, so
>
> a full-featured Android client should now be possible with the current
> engine exposure.
>
> Everything is still at the same location (below).
>
> -Troy.
>
>
> Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
> > There is now a preliminary Android NDK / Java binding available in SVN.
>
> >  This is very very early and should just be considered a proof of concept.
> >
> > There is a package available to show things working, but doesn't really
> > do much:
> >
> > http://crosswire.org/~scribe/bishop.apk 
> > 
>
> >
> > the JNI libsword.so should be placed in your project/libs directory, e.g.,
> >
> > ~/workspace/bishop/libs/armeabi/libsword.so
> >
> > and can be obtained from the above package-- believe me, you don't want
>
> > to try to compile it yourself as the NDK does not have STL support out
> > of the box.  The Java classes can be obtained from the
> > sword/bindings/java-jni/src directory, e.g.
> >
> > http://crosswire.org/svn/sword/trunk/bindings/java-jni/src/org/crosswire/android/sword/
>
> >
> > Module library must exist on your SD card under a 'sword' directory to
> > be found, e.g., unzip KJV.zip to /sdcard/sword/
> >
> > Have fun, let me know if anyone else is interested in developing an
>
> > Android frontend.
> >
> >   -Troy.
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[sword-devel] New flashcard lesson

[Wes Widner]

Hey guys,

I wrote a lesson, the Greek alphabet, for the flashcard app. How should I go
about contributing my work on it back to the project?

Thanks,
-Wes
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Re: [sword-devel] sword-devel Digest, Vol 73, Issue 45

[Wes Widner]

gt;>>
>>> If you're not familiar with the idea of an interlinear (which was the
>>> case for me a few months ago), basically we have:
>>> *classic interlinear*: main passage is the Greek or Hebrew, and then we
>>> put the English or French or ... underneath using the strong numbers and if
>>> possible morphology details as well.
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *reverse interlinear: * the reverse, starting from the translated
>>> language (English, etc..) you then put the Greek or Hebrew underneath
>>>
>>> There's probably more stuff. Definitely have a look in JIRA and tell me
>>> if you see some basic things missing out of version 0.1!
>>> Chris
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 22 April 2010 03:14, Wes Widner  wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'd love to help as well. I know Java/GWT..
>>>>
>>>> -Wes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Yiguang Hu  wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would like to see what I can help. I know java/groovy/grails and
>>>>> GWT.
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> *From:* "sword-devel-requ...@crosswire.org" <
>>>>> sword-devel-requ...@crosswire.org>
>>>>> *To:* sword-devel@crosswire.org
>>>>> *Sent:* Wed, April 21, 2010 7:11:32 PM
>>>>> *Subject:* sword-devel Digest, Vol 73, Issue 45
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>> Today's Topics:
>>>>>
>>>>>   1. New data, new CrossWire project, HELP WANTED (Chris Burrell)
>>>>>   2. Re: New data, new CrossWire project, HELP WANTED (Chris Burrell)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Message: 1
>>>>> Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 20:07:06 +0100
>>>>> From: Chris Burrell 
>>>>> To: J-Sword Developers Mailing List ,
>>>>> "SWORD Developers' Collaboration Forum" >>>> >
>>>>> Cc: "tyndalestep.prog" 
>>>>> Subject: [sword-devel] New data, new CrossWire project, HELP WANTED
>>>>> Message-ID:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1252"
>>>>>
>>>>> *What is Tyndale STEP?*
>>>>> Tyndale STEP is an offline and online Java web application which aims
>>>>> to
>>>>> make ancient texts and maps as well as timeline data, genealogies, ...
>>>>> accessible to everyone, scholar and non-scholar alike, so that the
>>>>> Bible is
>>>>> illuminated by its full ancient context. [see roadmap below]. Tyndale
>>>>> House
>>>>> will also distribute the online version to pastors in the third world,
>>>>> who
>>>>> often can?t afford commercial Bible software.
>>>>>
>>>>> A wiki page has been set up here:
>>>>> http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep which has a lot more
>>>>> information!
>>>>>
>>>>> *Who are we looking for?*
>>>>> We need lots of help!
>>>>> ? *Java developers*: this code base is mainly in Java so we can do with
>>>>> all
>>>>> the help we can get!
>>>>> ? *User Interface designers*: there is currently a sketch of the user
>>>>> interface, created more to prove a point. We need proper guidance to
>>>>> make
>>>>> the software as user friendly and rich as possible
>>>>> ? *Data harvesters*: Tyndale House could do with a few extra pairs of
>>>>&

Re: [sword-devel] www.crosswire.org down?

[Wes Widner]

Actually, on April 6th a very large majority of the internet's traffic WAS
routed through China. The reason is because they managed to poison the DNS
space (at the root level, the i-roots iirc).

I'm not exactly clear on all of the details, we were only briefed on this
the other day (I work with McAfee in the labs department), but it seems that
this wasn't the first occurrence and it probably won't be the last. So its
not a guarantee this is what was causing our outage, but it is certainly a
possibility.

-Wes


On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 7:41 AM, Matthew Talbert wrote:

> On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 4:07 AM, Teus Benschop 
> wrote:
> >
> > It is still down for me, and it has been "down" like this for over a
> > week now. I am trying to access it from Africa / Zimbabwe, perhaps that
> > makes a difference. Trying to access www.crosswire.org through a ssh
> > tunnel effectually accessing it from the USA works great. Is crosswire
> > blacklisting some IP groups? Teus.
> > On Sat, 2010-04-24 at 15:17 +1000, Nic Carter wrote:
>
> We've also had reports of problems from South Africa, Mexico, and Brazil.
>
> Matthew
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Re: [sword-devel] sword-devel Digest, Vol 73, Issue 45

[Wes Widner]

I'd love to help as well. I know Java/GWT..

-Wes


On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 10:06 PM, Yiguang Hu  wrote:

> I would like to see what I can help. I know java/groovy/grails and GWT.
>
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>
> *What is Tyndale STEP?*
> Tyndale STEP is an offline and online Java web application which aims to
> make ancient texts and maps as well as timeline data, genealogies, ...
> accessible to everyone, scholar and non-scholar alike, so that the Bible is
> illuminated by its full ancient context. [see roadmap below]. Tyndale House
> will also distribute the online version to pastors in the third world, who
> often can?t afford commercial Bible software.
>
> A wiki page has been set up here:
> http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep which has a lot more
> information!
>
> *Who are we looking for?*
> We need lots of help!
> ? *Java developers*: this code base is mainly in Java so we can do with all
> the help we can get!
> ? *User Interface designers*: there is currently a sketch of the user
> interface, created more to prove a point. We need proper guidance to make
> the software as user friendly and rich as possible
> ? *Data harvesters*: Tyndale House could do with a few extra pairs of hands
> to helpcollate the data and make it available to the wider CrossWire
> community
>
> *How do I start?*
> ? Get in touch!
> ? Read through the wiki page:
> http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep
> ? Build the code from:
> http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:TyndaleStep_Build_Environment
> ? Check out our feature/bug repository:
> http://crosswire.org/bugs/browse/TYNSTEP
> ? Have a look at the proof of concept sketches at
> http://crosswire.org:8080/~chrisburrell/ (including timelines and
> interlinears on strong-tagged Bibles)
> ? Peruse the blogs mentioned on the wiki to get a feel for the data and
> programming
>
> As you can see, there?s plenty to do!
>
> *What does the roadmap look like?*
>
> *1st phase: build a multi-platform structure for standard Bible-study
> tools:
> *
> ? Bible texts, including original languages, translations and interlinears
> ? Language aids, including lookup-dictionaries concordance searches
> ? History tools, including an expandable timeline with scripture links
> ? Dictionary articles, culled from various sources and edited
> *
> *
> *2nd phase: add detailed geographic, historic & linguistic data*
> ? Gazetteer of all named places, with short articles and links to pictures
> ? Co-ordinates of identifiable places to GoogleEarth
> ? Map overlays of high-ref 1:20,000 maps of pre-urbanised Palestine
> ? Flexible timelines which can be altered at key points of uncertainty
> ? Full-text lexicons linked to the lookup dictionaries in tagged texts
>
> *3rd phase: add translation aids and links to modern publications*
> ? different possible translations for words and passages
> ? differences in manuscripts, with evidence for each variant
> ? expositions in modern and older commentaries, articles and books
>
> *4th phase: adds link to extra-biblical literature with searching:*
> ? search other ancient literature for similar passages in a similar context
> ? look up Greek and Hebrew words in other ancient literature
> ? view ancient texts with translations where possible
>
> These tools will put centuries of research into the hands of non-scholars.
> When the information is laid open like this, it is easy to see that the
> Bible is well preserved and translated, reflecting historical events in
> real
> places, and dealing with issues current in the ancient and modern work
> alike.
>
> If you have any more questions or want to get involved, please do let me
> know!
> Chris
> -- next part

[sword-devel] Bishop source / JNI instructions

[Wes Widner]

Hey everyone,

I'm new to this list so forgive me if it's answered elsewhere and I've
simply overlooked it. Where is the source code for the android project that
uses the sword library via jni?

Also, does anyone know how I should go about building the jni library for
sword? I can mange to build the .java interface files, but I am having
trouble figuring out where to build the system library (the .so file).

Any help is much appreciated!

Blessings,
-Wes
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