Re: [sword-devel] Berean Bible

[Karl Kleinpaste]

On 06/05/2018 05:50 AM, Martin Denham wrote:
> Berean Bible OT is now available and it does seem to be here
>  and here
>  although I am not sure if
> everything you require is there yet.

Yes, they announced partial OT support this past weekend. I have
produced full OT+NT regular and interlinear modules but the necessary
tables to provide paragraph breaks, headings, and footnote placement
weren't provided for OT yet -- later this year, they say. So what I have
so far is Feature=NoParagraphs (VPL) of very basic regular and
interlinear texts, BSBdraft and BIBdraft. I've got more ideas about
better markup, notably that Strong's numbers can interfere with lemma
display (a Xiphos-specific concern), so I'm still in-progress on these.

An unexpected hassle: OT interlinear display suffers from the fact that
Hebrew is more compact than English, with the result that the English
content is space-constrained by the Hebrew, leading to illegible English
overlap. Still working out whether there's anything I can do about that.
At the moment, the content is marked up as original language as main
plus English as lemmatized interlinear, but I might simply turn that
around, which would make the problem go away.
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Re: [sword-devel] Berean Bible

[Martin Denham]

I have been told by the same And Bible user that the Berean Bible OT is now
available and it does seem to be here 
and here  although I am not sure if
everything you require is there yet.

Martin


On 27 May 2018 at 21:39, Karl Kleinpaste  wrote:

> On 05/26/2018 06:49 AM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote:
>
> looking forward to seeing if I can produce a module that makes the
> interlinear really work well
>
> I'm experimenting with this content. I'm rather liking what's being
> produced.
> http://karl.kleinpaste.org/.../BIBnt-1.gif
> http://karl.kleinpaste.org/.../BIBnt-2.gif
> It's incomplete so far, lacking paragraph breaks and headings, for
> example. I have to figure out how to get those details out of the .xlsx
> tables provided so as to inject them into the resulting content as a
> post-construction automated edit. But this somewhat raw construction took
> less than an hour.
>
> It's kind of a joy to work with completely regularized content. Copy/paste
> selected columns from original .xlsx content, export as CSV, then script
> the auto-edited component access. Very straightforward, I generate this
> kind of thing in my sleep. I wish all providers could be so conscientious.
>
> Downside is that they have their own Greek lexicon as well as their own
> morphological parse content. The parse data appears original on their part;
> the Strong's-ish refs have intersection and overlap but clearly also have
> inconsistencies with regular Strong's. So I am also making lexdict modules
> to go along with it -- those were *easy* oh my goodness -- but in the
> latter case, it's going to induce me to make some updates to Xiphos so that
> Strong's and morph choices are associated per-Bible rather than being a
> general app-wide preference. At least this will also induce the removal of
> some crude special case code for NASB lex that will never have reason to
> see the light of day.
>
> Producing a module for their ordinary study Bible will be easier due to
> not having need to construct keyed content. What I really wanted for now
> was the real interlinear.
>
> I'm not intending to make this work publicly available, because (as
> expressed before) it's NT only and it will just have to be obsoleted as
> soon as they finish OT, hence the name BIBnt. But if anyone wants a look
> privately, let me know.
>
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Re: [sword-devel] Berean Bible

[Karl Kleinpaste]

On 05/26/2018 06:49 AM, Karl Kleinpaste wrote:
> looking forward to seeing if I can produce a module that makes the
> interlinear really work well
I'm experimenting with this content. I'm rather liking what's being
produced.
http://karl.kleinpaste.org/.../BIBnt-1.gif
http://karl.kleinpaste.org/.../BIBnt-2.gif
It's incomplete so far, lacking paragraph breaks and headings, for
example. I have to figure out how to get those details out of the .xlsx
tables provided so as to inject them into the resulting content as a
post-construction automated edit. But this somewhat raw construction
took less than an hour.

It's kind of a joy to work with completely regularized content.
Copy/paste selected columns from original .xlsx content, export as CSV,
then script the auto-edited component access. Very straightforward, I
generate this kind of thing in my sleep. I wish all providers could be
so conscientious.

Downside is that they have their own Greek lexicon as well as their own
morphological parse content. The parse data appears original on their
part; the Strong's-ish refs have intersection and overlap but clearly
also have inconsistencies with regular Strong's. So I am also making
lexdict modules to go along with it -- those were /easy/ oh my goodness
-- but in the latter case, it's going to induce me to make some updates
to Xiphos so that Strong's and morph choices are associated per-Bible
rather than being a general app-wide preference. At least this will also
induce the removal of some crude special case code for NASB lex that
will never have reason to see the light of day.

Producing a module for their ordinary study Bible will be easier due to
not having need to construct keyed content. What I really wanted for now
was the real interlinear.

I'm not intending to make this work publicly available, because (as
expressed before) it's NT only and it will just have to be obsoleted as
soon as they finish OT, hence the name BIBnt. But if anyone wants a look
privately, let me know.
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Re: [sword-devel] Berean Bible

[Karl Kleinpaste]

Also, I have to say, I'm looking forward to seeing if I can produce a
module that makes the interlinear really work well as an
honest-to-goodness interlinear in Xiphos.
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Re: [sword-devel] Berean Bible

[Karl Kleinpaste]

On 05/26/2018 05:01 AM, Martin Denham wrote:
> Have we ever looked into distributing the Berean Bible as a Sword module?
This is marvelous source content. They are apparently due Real Soon Now
to complete the process with their OT. Would it not be better to wait a
very short while, until both testaments are available, so as not to have
to produce an interim version that will need to be obsoleted as soon as
OT is done?
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[sword-devel] Berean Bible

[Martin Denham]

I just received this suggestion from an And Bible user:
Are there any future plans to add the Berean Study Bible? It is a free to
distribute translation that is very well done.

Here is the website http://bereanbible.com/

Have we ever looked into distributing the Berean Bible as a Sword module?

Martin
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