Re: [sword-devel] Introducing myself, SwordHammer, and asking a ton of questions

2017-12-23 Thread jhphx

On 12/23/2017 7:28 AM, Tom Sullivan wrote:
 A rather famous case is where a mobile home (house on wheels) was 
called "Holiday Rambler." American Motors (now defunct) sued because 
they had a car called "Rambler." They lost because the products were 
so unlike one another.


It may be worth noting, or not, that they did get sued. Sometimes 
lawyers will advise to sue to establish a precedent of defending their 
trade mark. Undefended trade marks become harder to defend and risk 
becoming public domain.


Just my non-professional understanding and I could be wrong.

It may be worth considering how willing you would be to defend the name 
if sued. Personally I think you should be fine but what do I know.


Jerry


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Re: [sword-devel] Introducing myself, SwordHammer, and asking a ton of questions

2017-12-23 Thread Tom Sullivan

David:

Thank you. I never thought of that. However, trying SwordHammer in 
Startpage, Google, and Bing only bring up a bunch of weird stuff, and 
only one hit where "SwordHammer" is one word, not two. That hit is a 
fantasy magazine of some sort. USA trademark law says that in order for 
there to be infringement, the products marked must be similar enough to 
cause confusion. A rather famous case is where a mobile home (house on 
wheels) was called "Holiday Rambler." American Motors (now defunct) sued 
because they had a car called "Rambler." They lost because the products 
were so unlike one another.


But thanks. Good thing to check.

Tom

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On 12/23/2017 09:04 AM, David Haslam wrote:

A Google search for SwordHammer gives lots of higher profile hits.

Wondering if Tom's project name is at risk of infringing a registered 
trademark.


Worthwhile exercising due diligence at this early stage.

Not too late to rebrand it if there turns out to be a conflict.

David

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Re: [sword-devel] Introducing myself, SwordHammer, and asking a ton of questions

2017-12-23 Thread David Haslam
A Google search for SwordHammer gives lots of higher profile hits.

Wondering if Tom's project name is at risk of infringing a registered trademark.

Worthwhile exercising due diligence at this early stage.

Not too late to rebrand it if there turns out to be a conflict.

David

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Re: [sword-devel] Introducing myself, SwordHammer, and asking a ton of questions

2017-12-22 Thread ref...@gmx.net
Hi Tom,Just had a short look at the documentation of SwordHammer and think this is a promising concept. Specifically for some very complicated texts delivered to us as MS word etc files. I will most certainly have a go at using it. PeterSent from my mobile. Please forgive shortness, typos and weird autocorrects. Original Message Subject: [sword-devel] Introducing myself, SwordHammer,	and asking a ton of questionsFrom: Tom Sullivan To: sword-devel@crosswire.orgCC: Y’all:This will be a long one, so let me first summarize, then provide details for each section:Personal Introduction:My name is Tom Sullivan, i...@beforgiven.info.Context of my interest in this forum:I have developed a program, SwordHammer, to translate from WYSIWYG word processor output to OSIS and Sword Modules. It is in beta, and is at beforgiven.info/SwordHammer. I hope it will be useful to some of you, and to a wider audience of authors, editors, and translators.Questions:But, there are issues with my understanding of OSIS, Sword, and what is to be expected of front end programs, and of the back ends, jsword and sword. I have read the docs fully and more than once, but there are places where there are contradictions, things that are unclear to me, and undoubtedly, things that I stupidly missed. So I would appreciate some help. I need this information so I can make SwordHammer do its job well. I have extensively tested it; it mostly works well, but there are warts and blemishes. A prime goal is to isolate the user from technical details.Perhaps I could help with the documentation? It seems to need work. Perhaps Crosswire could specify a simpler OSIS if nobody else is using it?Future Direction:Someday I hope to write a front-end for interlinear Bible presentation. A very simple front end sync standard would be helpful.More details:*** Personal Introduction:My name is Tom Sullivan and you can reach me at in...@beforgiven.info. I am a retired engineer, but in most jobs was also IT administrator or involved with it. I started programming in FORTRAN on the IBM 360 mainframe in 1972. About a year and a half later, by God’s sovereign grace alone, the Holy Spirit regenerated my heart and gave me faith in Jesus Christ whose bondslave I have been ever since (not that I have always acted the part very well).What follows about myself is not all that important, but may perhaps help others understand my strengths, weaknesses, and motivation.At the end of my career I was mostly using C, C#, and (legacy) VB6. When Microsoft released that unnatural chimera called Windows 8, started putting spyware (“telemetry”) in Windows 7, tried to cram Windows 10 (replete with spyware and ads) down my throat, and etc., a divorce was in order. (Microsoft may possibly have a somewhat different perspective.) I settled on Debian and tried to stay with C# using Mono, but it was buggy, and then Microsoft bought Xamarin (who owned Mono). Forced to choose a new language, I learned Python 3 and have written an awful lot of Python code to convert my own stuff over from Windows to Linux. Although I must still use Windows for a few unmovable commercial programs, I am now almost fully on Debian, still learning, and still considering myself to be a Linux newbie even after two years.Of course, Linux is a different world. The quantity and quality of the software is amazing, especially considering its largely volunteer origin, and the price is right. But everywhere, documentation tends to be a weak spot. What struck me most is that, compared with commercial offerings, there is a lack of good Bible programs for Linux. The relative lack of modern, translations, commentaries, and reference material is even worse. Those of us who are Linux users are, in effect, an unreached people group. It is clear that there are many who are hard at work on Bible programs and that they are making good progress to remedy the gap. With regard to input material, this obvious need is what has motivated me to tackle the project of writing SwordHammer in addition to my other retirement job of translating Puritan and other classic works into modern English. (Of course, I hope to use SwordHammer to publish my own works as well.) Readers who have used programs like Libronix will understand the great value of linking Christian works and their Bible references to the actual Bible passages. Too many readers do not bother to look up references. This is in addition to linking commentaries, dictionaries, etc., to the Word of God to facilitate careful study.So OK, I am the new employee who has still to find the bathrooms. I have a lot to learn. But perhaps I can also bring some helpful outsider’s viewpoints and suggestions. I have waited until now to join this list because, first, I wanted to learn and test my learning about OSIS and Sword modules, and second, because I wanted to present SwordHammer in beta as an indication that I am serious about helping out with the Sword project and making the whole “ecos

[sword-devel] Introducing myself, SwordHammer, and asking a ton of questions

2017-12-22 Thread Tom Sullivan

Y’all:

This will be a long one, so let me first summarize, then provide details 
for each section:


Personal Introduction:
My name is Tom Sullivan, i...@beforgiven.info.

Context of my interest in this forum:
I have developed a program, SwordHammer, to translate from WYSIWYG word 
processor output to OSIS and Sword Modules. It is in beta, and is at 
beforgiven.info/SwordHammer. I hope it will be useful to some of you, 
and to a wider audience of authors, editors, and translators.


Questions:
But, there are issues with my understanding of OSIS, Sword, and what is 
to be expected of front end programs, and of the back ends, jsword and 
sword. I have read the docs fully and more than once, but there are 
places where there are contradictions, things that are unclear to me, 
and undoubtedly, things that I stupidly missed. So I would appreciate 
some help. I need this information so I can make SwordHammer do its job 
well. I have extensively tested it; it mostly works well, but there are 
warts and blemishes. A prime goal is to isolate the user from technical 
details.


Perhaps I could help with the documentation? It seems to need work. 
Perhaps Crosswire could specify a simpler OSIS if nobody else is using it?


Future Direction:
Someday I hope to write a front-end for interlinear Bible presentation. 
A very simple front end sync standard would be helpful.


More details:

*** Personal Introduction:

My name is Tom Sullivan and you can reach me at in...@beforgiven.info. I 
am a retired engineer, but in most jobs was also IT administrator or 
involved with it. I started programming in FORTRAN on the IBM 360 
mainframe in 1972. About a year and a half later, by God’s sovereign 
grace alone, the Holy Spirit regenerated my heart and gave me faith in 
Jesus Christ whose bondslave I have been ever since (not that I have 
always acted the part very well).


What follows about myself is not all that important, but may perhaps 
help others understand my strengths, weaknesses, and motivation.


At the end of my career I was mostly using C, C#, and (legacy) VB6. When 
Microsoft released that unnatural chimera called Windows 8, started 
putting spyware (“telemetry”) in Windows 7, tried to cram Windows 10 
(replete with spyware and ads) down my throat, and etc., a divorce was 
in order. (Microsoft may possibly have a somewhat different 
perspective.) I settled on Debian and tried to stay with C# using Mono, 
but it was buggy, and then Microsoft bought Xamarin (who owned Mono). 
Forced to choose a new language, I learned Python 3 and have written an 
awful lot of Python code to convert my own stuff over from Windows to 
Linux. Although I must still use Windows for a few unmovable commercial 
programs, I am now almost fully on Debian, still learning, and still 
considering myself to be a Linux newbie even after two years.


Of course, Linux is a different world. The quantity and quality of the 
software is amazing, especially considering its largely volunteer 
origin, and the price is right. But everywhere, documentation tends to 
be a weak spot. What struck me most is that, compared with commercial 
offerings, there is a lack of good Bible programs for Linux. The 
relative lack of modern, translations, commentaries, and reference 
material is even worse. Those of us who are Linux users are, in effect, 
an unreached people group. It is clear that there are many who are hard 
at work on Bible programs and that they are making good progress to 
remedy the gap. With regard to input material, this obvious need is what 
has motivated me to tackle the project of writing SwordHammer in 
addition to my other retirement job of translating Puritan and other 
classic works into modern English. (Of course, I hope to use SwordHammer 
to publish my own works as well.) Readers who have used programs like 
Libronix will understand the great value of linking Christian works and 
their Bible references to the actual Bible passages. Too many readers do 
not bother to look up references. This is in addition to linking 
commentaries, dictionaries, etc., to the Word of God to facilitate 
careful study.


So OK, I am the new employee who has still to find the bathrooms. I have 
a lot to learn. But perhaps I can also bring some helpful outsider’s 
viewpoints and suggestions. I have waited until now to join this list 
because, first, I wanted to learn and test my learning about OSIS and 
Sword modules, and second, because I wanted to present SwordHammer in 
beta as an indication that I am serious about helping out with the Sword 
project and making the whole “ecosystem” better, if God will so allow me.


*** Context of my interest in this forum:

I have developed a program, SwordHammer, to translate from WYSIWYG word 
processor output to OSIS and Sword Modules. It is in beta, and is at 
beforgiven.info/SwordHammer. I hope it will be useful to some of you, 
and to a wider audience of authors, editors, publishers, and 
translators. My target audi