Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
On Mon, 2012-08-20 at 22:55 -0400, Andrew Thule wrote: Ok, good question, I see your point, but remember, visually impaired folks don't use mice. They use modules that read everything on actice screens, representing possible windows and clickable actions with keystrokes, and they use Braille screens, which means most visually impaired people won't click random links, rather they will have to purposefully select the link using key specific key sequences. I think there is some confusion on this thread re use of TTS in our software. Most, if not all speech implementations within the programmes are simply an added feature, useful to get read a text while doing something else - for people with sight or without. If the speech feature would randomly jump about to whatever else is done in the programme at a given time, this would be annoying and totally beside the point. On the other side there is stuff like Orca and other screen readers, which assist sightless people to find their way about, using often system hooks to intercept and re-interpret mouse and keyboard events, following the user about as s/he uses programmes, windows and menus. I think the only expectation one should have is that programmes like Xiphos do not get into the way of such systemwide implementations. Peter ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
Thanks Peter, Yep - the primary context for starting this thread was the long established TTS feature in *And Bible*. As Martin highlighted earlier, for front-ends designed for mobile devices to which ear-phones are a common accessory, the feature can be of real benefit, facilitating as it does the means to listen to the Bible even while on the move. e.g. As characterized by the old single by Cliff Richard, for the generation which is /Wired For Sound/. So this fits in nicely with CrossWire's tagline, /Bringing the Gospel to a new generation/. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Speech-synthesis-voices-tp4650893p4650919.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
When I mentioned /Wired For Sound/, it hardly occurred to me to recall that it was released as long ago as 1981. The Sony Walkman was first marketed in Japan during 1979. So this is not new! We're more accurately thinking of the old generation. Younger than I am of course, but not by any stretch of the imagination new to the new generation. It's almost /de rigueur/ for many people nowadays to be walking about, jogging, riding or driving while wearing earphones to listen. So let's think beyond the fixation on text being read from a display screen, good as that is, and be more in tune to the people who'd like to hear God's Word as well. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Speech-synthesis-voices-tp4650893p4650921.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
I too have worked with a blind sysadmin, a fine fellow named Henning with whom Martin Grüner is acquainted. A very competent fellow who also uses a Braille reader. But we're talking in circles by now. Xiphos provides Read Aloud because there wasn't system-level support for it when it was implemented, and it has proven disturbingly popular. (For something that started out somewhat as a joke, and as a proof-of-concept for myself when I was getting my feet wet in the code, it's really quite odd.) If the user has system-level TTS support, then he can ignore Xiphos' internal support and use that; if that's key sequences to emulate mouse sweeps and clicks, fine, Xiphos doesn't have to care. As it is, Xiphos provides ongoing verse reading if Read Aloud is simply turned on, and the user can sweep-and-select a region for reading on demand. I don't see that anything more than this is in order. Xiphos doesn't provide voice selection, or any other aspect of Festival configuration, because that was considered underneath the level at which the user interacts with Xiphos. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
Karl writes, But we're talking in circles by now Yet I don't think that this is the case. The vast difference between then and now is the huge take up of mobile devices, both phones and tablets. So front-end developers, especially those focused on mobile technologies, please continue to think fo innovative ways in which your Bible study application can make use of and interact with TTS engines, whether they come preloaded with the platform or whether they can be installed as separate apps, and selected both by system settings and by other apps. And to keep this thread from going into a downward spiral, we haven't even started to consider how OSIS constructions such as the speaker element and the speech element could interface with different TTS voices. Perhaps that could be the topic for another thread in the future? Would need some mature thought devoting to it before posting immediate reactions. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Speech-synthesis-voices-tp4650893p4650916.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
Hi Martin, Once you've selected a voice to use by the TTS Engine, does *and-bible* use that voice for /all/ the installed modules? The idea that I'm pursuing in this thread is that you could somehow assign [say] Amy to read the English Bibles Céline to read the French Bibles Hans to read the German Bibles Geraint to read the Welsh Bibles and that and-bible would remember each of these settings! Likewise for any other front-end that cares to add high quality TTS support. See the growing IVONA http://www.ivona.com/en/voices-list/ voices portfolio . David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Speech-synthesis-voices-tp4650893p4650905.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
Hi David, Each TTS voice is specific to a language and country(accent). And Bible requests a voice for the language of the module and also tries to work out the best country (accent). So, you could load an English bible and press Speak which will use Amy, then switch to a German bible and press speak to hear Hans. However, there is a TTS bug in this area. If you try to switch language while the previous language is speaking it gets confused and continues speaking in the first language. Martin On 20 August 2012 12:21, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Martin, Once you've selected a voice to use by the TTS Engine, does *and-bible* use that voice for /all/ the installed modules? The idea that I'm pursuing in this thread is that you could somehow assign [say] Amy to read the English Bibles Céline to read the French Bibles Hans to read the German Bibles Geraint to read the Welsh Bibles and that and-bible would remember each of these settings! Likewise for any other front-end that cares to add high quality TTS support. See the growing IVONA http://www.ivona.com/en/voices-list/ voices portfolio . David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Speech-synthesis-voices-tp4650893p4650905.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
If and when Nic C is able to continue developing *PocketSword*, this is something he too could implement. There are already various TTS apps available for the iPad. See, (e.g.) http://appadvice.com/appguides/show/text-to-speech-apps-for-ipad David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Speech-synthesis-voices-tp4650893p4650908.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
How at the system level currently does the application differentiate an active pane from an inactive one (based upon mouse-clicks)? I'm asking in ignorance incidentally. It seems to me most applications, including Bibletime and Xiphos have a 'sense' of active window vs inactive. When I click on a window and select the 'up and down' arrow, different things happen depending upon which pane the application has 'active'. With respect to text to voice synthesis, shouldn't behaviour be the same? If the active pane is the bible pane, the bible text is what should be spoken. If the commentary pane is active it should be the commentary one. Which presupposes that application developers provide some accessibility feature that allows them to switch between panes (windows) etc, be it keystroke or some other methods. *shrugs* ~A On Sun, Aug 19, 2012 at 5:57 PM, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote: Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com writes: TTS never struck me as something that is properly handled by the application but should only be offered on the system level Bear in mind that I implemented Read Aloud back in the days of Fedora 5 (2006). I have no memory of there being _any_ system-level TTS support. The fact that I found Festival available at all was an accident. That said, how TTS is done at the system level is a pretty funny concept. That is, if Xiphos isn't doing Read Aloud directly, but the user is expecting it at the system level, what shall he expect to happen? Every time he navigates a verse, the entire Bible chapter, as well as at least the commentary verse and possibly the entire commentary chapter, is displayed. Shall TTS read both Bible and commentary verse in their entirety? NETnote Ecc 1:1 is 8Kbytes of text, and takes nearly 12 minutes to speak. How does one, at the system level, tell the system to read one pane and not another, and within one pane, to read only a certain slice of text? I simply don't know. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
PocketSword currently fully supports VoiceOver. In fact, I have had several insanely encouraging emails from blind users who are very thankful for that! Apparently none of the big name iOS apps support it (although they may now?) so if you're blind you are left high dry with them :( TTS would be good to implement at some point, yes. I think it's on my todo list somewhere.. ;) Sent from my phone, hence this email may be short... On 20/08/2012, at 22:55, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: If and when Nic C is able to continue developing *PocketSword*, this is something he too could implement. There are already various TTS apps available for the iPad. See, (e.g.) http://appadvice.com/appguides/show/text-to-speech-apps-for-ipad David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Speech-synthesis-voices-tp4650893p4650908.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
Ok, good question, I see your point, but remember, visually impaired folks don't use mice. They use modules that read everything on actice screens, representing possible windows and clickable actions with keystrokes, and they use Braille screens, which means most visually impaired people won't click random links, rather they will have to purposefully select the link using key specific key sequences. I mentioned that I have a friend who is a blind network admin? When he works, he primarily uses CLI where available, which, in terms of Sword, would have to mean text to voice at the level of the OS or diatheke. However, where CLI doesn't exist, I understand that there key sequences that emulate mouse clicks ( I don't know quite how this works), so when you say 'mistakenly clicks random links', - for the visually impaired, that would mean, 'correctly types in the key sequence to emulate the mouse click', which is unlikely. That said, there is a gradient of visually impaired - and my friend has been blind from birth ( which makes watching him do packet captures, packet analysis to then reconfigure switches and firewalls all the more amazing) ~ A On Monday, August 20, 2012, Karl Kleinpaste wrote: Andrew Thule thules...@gmail.com javascript:; writes: It seems to me most applications, including Bibletime and Xiphos have a 'sense' of active window vs inactive. When I click on a window and select the 'up and down' arrow, different things happen depending upon which pane the application has 'active'. With respect to text to voice synthesis, shouldn't behaviour be the same? So I click a random dictionary link that managed to show up in Xiphos' previewer, inducing the dictionary pane to react. Mouse activity is in some sense still current in the previewer, while the dictionary pane is where output activity has most recently appeared. Now I click the navbar's verse down-arrow. What do you expect TTS to read? ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org javascript:; http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
Hi Greg, As I clearly wrote, This is something for front-end developers to consider ... I wasn't thinking at all about something that gets delivered as part of the module during installation. So mention of CSS and conf files was not relevant to this thread. That very few front-end apps support TTS is a merely a present circumstance. Imagination can be very creative when developers follow-up a suggestion. IMHO, Xiphos rightly focuses on making several options something that can be set /per module/ by the user. i.e. Accessed via the right click context menu, Module Options. /cf. These choices include many that are global settings in other front-end apps./ So how I'd envisage assigning a TTS voice might be implemented in a similar manner. Something that the user could select, while the module is being viewed. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Speech-synthesis-voices-tp4650893p4650900.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
On Aug 19, 2012 12:57 PM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Greg, As I clearly wrote, This is something for front-end developers to consider ... I wasn't thinking at all about something that gets delivered as part of the module during installation. So mention of CSS and conf files was not relevant to this thread. It sounded to me like you intended this to be something which could be unified across applications. Obviously each application can keep whatever status it wants per module. I don't know that BT maintains many (any?) Asettings on a per-module basis. TTS never struck me as something that is properly handled by the application but should only be offered on the system level - at least on the desktop. --Greg That very few front-end apps support TTS is a merely a present circumstance. Imagination can be very creative when developers follow-up a suggestion. IMHO, Xiphos rightly focuses on making several options something that can be set /per module/ by the user. i.e. Accessed via the right click context menu, Module Options. /cf. These choices include many that are global settings in other front-end apps./ So how I'd envisage assigning a TTS voice might be implemented in a similar manner. Something that the user could select, while the module is being viewed. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Speech-synthesis-voices-tp4650893p4650900.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com writes: TTS never struck me as something that is properly handled by the application but should only be offered on the system level Bear in mind that I implemented Read Aloud back in the days of Fedora 5 (2006). I have no memory of there being _any_ system-level TTS support. The fact that I found Festival available at all was an accident. That said, how TTS is done at the system level is a pretty funny concept. That is, if Xiphos isn't doing Read Aloud directly, but the user is expecting it at the system level, what shall he expect to happen? Every time he navigates a verse, the entire Bible chapter, as well as at least the commentary verse and possibly the entire commentary chapter, is displayed. Shall TTS read both Bible and commentary verse in their entirety? NETnote Ecc 1:1 is 8Kbytes of text, and takes nearly 12 minutes to speak. How does one, at the system level, tell the system to read one pane and not another, and within one pane, to read only a certain slice of text? I simply don't know. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
On Aug 19, 2012, at 5:57 PM, Karl Kleinpaste k...@kleinpaste.org wrote: Greg Hellings greg.helli...@gmail.com writes: TTS never struck me as something that is properly handled by the application but should only be offered on the system level Bear in mind that I implemented Read Aloud back in the days of Fedora 5 (2006). I have no memory of there being _any_ system-level TTS support. The fact that I found Festival available at all was an accident. That said, how TTS is done at the system level is a pretty funny concept. That is, if Xiphos isn't doing Read Aloud directly, but the user is expecting it at the system level, what shall he expect to happen? Every time he navigates a verse, the entire Bible chapter, as well as at least the commentary verse and possibly the entire commentary chapter, is displayed. Shall TTS read both Bible and commentary verse in their entirety? NETnote Ecc 1:1 is 8Kbytes of text, and takes nearly 12 minutes to speak. How does one, at the system level, tell the system to read one pane and not another, and within one pane, to read only a certain slice of text? I simply don't know. On a mac, one highlights the text to be read and then asks (Alt-Esc) the system to read it. The key combination ability has to be turned on in Preferences. Most applications have a menu choice and a right click choice to start and stop speaking, but that is an additional convenience. In Him, DM ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
[sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
I've just added this idea * Per module assignment of speech synthesis voices, or none. in http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:FeatureList#General_UI_features http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:FeatureList#General_UI_features My suggestion is prompted by learning about the http://www.ivona.com/ IVONA *TTS Engine* for Android, and the choice of voices available for various languages. Some languages already have more than one voice. e.g. Geraint or Gwyneth for Welsh. Geraint and Gwyneth, first natural sounding Welsh voices are now available, for individuals and non-commercial entities in the UK for free, as a result of partnership between the Welsh Government, the Royal National Institute of Blind People and IVONA. Arfon Jones just installed this with his Android phone, and has used it successfully with *and-bible* to read passages from the WelBeiblNet module. He's very pleased with it. Minor quirks are the occasional reading out of the word comma when the punctuation is present. btw. IVONA is still in Beta, and is free of charge until the end of the Beta period. /I'm merely using this as an example, not seeking to advertise on their behalf./ This is something for front-end developers to consider, in as much as it relates to the UI and the platform, as well as any preloaded TTS engine and/or installed TTS application. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Speech-synthesis-voices-tp4650893.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
Not sure it is needed. On the Mac one can highlight text and have it read in a voice of their choice. And yes it reads punctuation as that is assistive to the blind. Linux can read text (festival?) but I've never bothered to look into it. Xiphos builds it in. It can be done in Java, see: http://today.java.net/pub/a/today/2006/04/13/vocal-java.html In Him, DM Cent from my fone so theer mite be tipos. ;) On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:31 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: I've just added this idea * Per module assignment of speech synthesis voices, or none. in http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:FeatureList#General_UI_features http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:FeatureList#General_UI_features My suggestion is prompted by learning about the http://www.ivona.com/ IVONA *TTS Engine* for Android, and the choice of voices available for various languages. Some languages already have more than one voice. e.g. Geraint or Gwyneth for Welsh. Geraint and Gwyneth, first natural sounding Welsh voices are now available, for individuals and non-commercial entities in the UK for free, as a result of partnership between the Welsh Government, the Royal National Institute of Blind People and IVONA. Arfon Jones just installed this with his Android phone, and has used it successfully with *and-bible* to read passages from the WelBeiblNet module. He's very pleased with it. Minor quirks are the occasional reading out of the word comma when the punctuation is present. btw. IVONA is still in Beta, and is free of charge until the end of the Beta period. /I'm merely using this as an example, not seeking to advertise on their behalf./ This is something for front-end developers to consider, in as much as it relates to the UI and the platform, as well as any preloaded TTS engine and/or installed TTS application. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Speech-synthesis-voices-tp4650893.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
But does one have to choose the voice every time? Or does the Mac remember the user's previous choice? Is it a choice for the whole platform, until you change it again? *Even that is only part of what I'm thinking of.* If you know several languages, and you want to enjoy the experience of listening to the text being read, it would save a lot of repeated GUI actions if one could assign a voice to each installed module. Then all you have to do afterwards is to select what's to be read, and hit the TTS icon or whatever. You'd only need to change the voice when [say] you got fed up of listening to Gwyneth reading in Welsh, and decide to switch to Geraint instead. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Speech-synthesis-voices-tp4650893p4650895.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
That doesn't seem to imply it's not needed. Rather, doesn't it seem to imply the implementation should be generic, modular and bind to a variety text to voice interfaces. I know of a blind network admin. He highlights nothing, rather festival reads everything to him (far more quickly than I can hear what is being said), and he has a 'Braille screen' (which more looks like a special keyboard than a screen). The nice thing about the suggestion for Sword to support the IVONA text to speech engine more directly is IVONA's emphasis on Android devices, which are making in-roads in the visually impaired community, as an accessibility device. Pondering it, perhaps this feature recommendation should be more geared to the folks who work on Andbible. On Saturday, August 18, 2012, DM Smith wrote: Not sure it is needed. On the Mac one can highlight text and have it read in a voice of their choice. And yes it reads punctuation as that is assistive to the blind. Linux can read text (festival?) but I've never bothered to look into it. Xiphos builds it in. It can be done in Java, see: http://today.java.net/pub/a/today/2006/04/13/vocal-java.html In Him, DM Cent from my fone so theer mite be tipos. ;) On Aug 18, 2012, at 10:31 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.comjavascript:; wrote: I've just added this idea * Per module assignment of speech synthesis voices, or none. in http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:FeatureList#General_UI_features http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:FeatureList#General_UI_features My suggestion is prompted by learning about the http://www.ivona.com/IVONA *TTS Engine* for Android, and the choice of voices available for various languages. Some languages already have more than one voice. e.g. Geraint or Gwyneth for Welsh. Geraint and Gwyneth, first natural sounding Welsh voices are now available, for individuals and non-commercial entities in the UK for free, as a result of partnership between the Welsh Government, the Royal National Institute of Blind People and IVONA. Arfon Jones just installed this with his Android phone, and has used it successfully with *and-bible* to read passages from the WelBeiblNet module. He's very pleased with it. Minor quirks are the occasional reading out of the word comma when the punctuation is present. btw. IVONA is still in Beta, and is free of charge until the end of the Beta period. /I'm merely using this as an example, not seeking to advertise on their behalf./ This is something for front-end developers to consider, in as much as it relates to the UI and the platform, as well as any preloaded TTS engine and/or installed TTS application. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Speech-synthesis-voices-tp4650893.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org javascript:; http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org javascript:; http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
Re: [sword-devel] Speech synthesis voices?
The idea of a module-supplied CSS in the confFile has been rejected time and time again. Because a single application is incapable of using CSS. Very few of our apps have TTS integration. Ergo this is very far from a viable suggestion at the module level. It is, though, possible for each application to offer this support where available. --Greg On Aug 18, 2012 9:33 AM, David Haslam dfh...@googlemail.com wrote: I've just added this idea * Per module assignment of speech synthesis voices, or none. in http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:FeatureList#General_UI_features http://crosswire.org/wiki/Frontends:FeatureList#General_UI_features My suggestion is prompted by learning about the http://www.ivona.com/IVONA *TTS Engine* for Android, and the choice of voices available for various languages. Some languages already have more than one voice. e.g. Geraint or Gwyneth for Welsh. Geraint and Gwyneth, first natural sounding Welsh voices are now available, for individuals and non-commercial entities in the UK for free, as a result of partnership between the Welsh Government, the Royal National Institute of Blind People and IVONA. Arfon Jones just installed this with his Android phone, and has used it successfully with *and-bible* to read passages from the WelBeiblNet module. He's very pleased with it. Minor quirks are the occasional reading out of the word comma when the punctuation is present. btw. IVONA is still in Beta, and is free of charge until the end of the Beta period. /I'm merely using this as an example, not seeking to advertise on their behalf./ This is something for front-end developers to consider, in as much as it relates to the UI and the platform, as well as any preloaded TTS engine and/or installed TTS application. David -- View this message in context: http://sword-dev.350566.n4.nabble.com/Speech-synthesis-voices-tp4650893.html Sent from the SWORD Dev mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page ___ sword-devel mailing list: sword-devel@crosswire.org http://www.crosswire.org/mailman/listinfo/sword-devel Instructions to unsubscribe/change your settings at above page
