Re: [Swprograms] [Internetradio] [dxld] Defunding public broadcasting

2011-02-13 Thread Joe Buch
As one who has worked as a volunteer for over 10 years at 
NPR-afiliated stations in Maryland and Florida, I have been able to see first 
hand how important the Federal $$$ are to capital improvements.  But the 
Federal $$$s make up only about 15% of the operating budgets of the stations I 
have been associated with.  It will not be the end of the world if the 
legislation passes.
 
It might even be beneficial to have public broadcasting stop sucking on the 
federal teet.  The government can use their puppet-master power to put pressure 
on NPR to conform to the party line.  When the network deviates off the track, 
the threat of federal fund withdrawal causes the network to do a mid-course 
correction.  Pacifica does a good, albeit biased, job of public broadcasting 
with no federal support.  Their financial supporters contribute to their 
operations because they believe the message is worthy of their support. 
 
Many folks refuse to contribute to their NPR-affiliated station because they 
claim that their tax dollars already pay for public radio and they do not feel 
obligated to pay twice.  It is a reasonable argument that will be blunted if 
this legislation passes.  So it might even be beneficial to the long-term 
health of public broadcasting to make the system more efficient and responsive 
to the public by cutting out government funding.
 
Joe Buch

--- On Sun, 2/13/11, Richard Cuff rdc...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Richard Cuff rdc...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Internetradio] [Swprograms] [dxld] Defunding public broadcasting
To: Shortwave programming discussion swprograms@hard-core-dx.com
Cc: Internet radio discussion internetra...@hard-core-dx.com
Date: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 2:44 AM


Many public stations have edited their websites to mention this.

There have been threats before, I believe Newt Gingrich led the last
unsuccessful defunding attempt in the second half of President
Clinton's first term.

Speaking as a fan of Public Radio (and a longtime member of WHYY in
Philadelphia) I am also hopeful this effort will see a similar fate,
since, given the variety of the USA's public radio segment now broadly
enjoyable via the Internet, Public Radio remains an important
component of my own listening.  I have already contacted my
congressman's office.

I would also suggest personalizing any message or communication,
stating how important the public radio station in *your* district is.
Positioning your member of Congress as an enemy of station , I
believe, helps to bring the threat to a very visible local level.

Richard C


On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Glenn Hauser wghau...@yahoo.com wrote:
 More about this from the manager of KGOU:

 http://kgou.org/index.php?manager-rsquo-s-desk

 --- On Sat, 2/12/11, Glenn Hauser wghau...@yahoo.com wrote:

 IMPORTANT LEGISLATIVE UPDATE:

 IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS, the House of Representatives will
 take action on a bill that provides continued funding for
 government operations. Under this measure, large funding
 cuts have been proposed, **including the likely elimination
 of federal funding for public broadcasting**.

 This is on an extremely fast timeline and it's critical
 that your representative hear from you. The House
 switchboard is (202) 224-3121 or (202) 225-3121 and it is
 operational 24/7, so truly, you can call ANYTIME and it
 won't take but a minute of your time!! Additional
 information is available at http://www.170millionamericans.org

 We appreciate your continuing interest in and support of
 WUOT Public Radio (WUOT mailing list Feb 12 via DXLD)




 
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Re: [Swprograms] [Internetradio] [dxld] Defunding public broadcasting

2011-02-13 Thread Scott Royall
A voice of  reason.

 

From: swprograms-boun...@hard-core-dx.com
[mailto:swprograms-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf Of Joe Buch
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 11:29
To: Shortwave programming discussion; Internet radio discussion
Cc: Internet radio discussion
Subject: Re: [Swprograms] [Internetradio] [dxld] Defunding public
broadcasting

 


As one who has worked as a volunteer for over 10 years at NPR-afiliated
stations in Maryland and Florida, I have been able to see first hand how
important the Federal $$$ are to capital improvements.  But the Federal $$$s
make up only about 15% of the operating budgets of the stations I have been
associated with.  It will not be the end of the world if the legislation
passes.

 

It might even be beneficial to have public broadcasting stop sucking on the
federal teet.  The government can use their puppet-master power to put
pressure on NPR to conform to the party line.  When the network deviates off
the track, the threat of federal fund withdrawal causes the network to do a
mid-course correction.  Pacifica does a good, albeit biased, job of public
broadcasting with no federal support.  Their financial supporters contribute
to their operations because they believe the message is worthy of their
support. 

 

Many folks refuse to contribute to their NPR-affiliated station because they
claim that their tax dollars already pay for public radio and they do not
feel obligated to pay twice.  It is a reasonable argument that will be
blunted if this legislation passes.  So it might even be beneficial to the
long-term health of public broadcasting to make the system more efficient
and responsive to the public by cutting out government funding.

 

Joe Buch

--- On Sun, 2/13/11, Richard Cuff rdc...@gmail.com wrote:


From: Richard Cuff rdc...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Internetradio] [Swprograms] [dxld] Defunding public
broadcasting
To: Shortwave programming discussion swprograms@hard-core-dx.com
Cc: Internet radio discussion internetra...@hard-core-dx.com
Date: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 2:44 AM

Many public stations have edited their websites to mention this.

There have been threats before, I believe Newt Gingrich led the last
unsuccessful defunding attempt in the second half of President
Clinton's first term.

Speaking as a fan of Public Radio (and a longtime member of WHYY in
Philadelphia) I am also hopeful this effort will see a similar fate,
since, given the variety of the USA's public radio segment now broadly
enjoyable via the Internet, Public Radio remains an important
component of my own listening.  I have already contacted my
congressman's office.

I would also suggest personalizing any message or communication,
stating how important the public radio station in *your* district is.
Positioning your member of Congress as an enemy of station , I
believe, helps to bring the threat to a very visible local level.

Richard C


On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Glenn Hauser wghau...@yahoo.com
http://us.mc301.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wghau...@yahoo.com  wrote:
 More about this from the manager of KGOU:

 http://kgou.org/index.php?manager-rsquo-s-desk

 --- On Sat, 2/12/11, Glenn Hauser wghau...@yahoo.com
http://us.mc301.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=wghau...@yahoo.com  wrote:

 IMPORTANT LEGISLATIVE UPDATE:

 IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS, the House of Representatives will
 take action on a bill that provides continued funding for
 government operations. Under this measure, large funding
 cuts have been proposed, **including the likely elimination
 of federal funding for public broadcasting**.

 This is on an extremely fast timeline and it's critical
 that your representative hear from you. The House
 switchboard is (202) 224-3121 or (202) 225-3121 and it is
 operational 24/7, so truly, you can call ANYTIME and it
 won't take but a minute of your time!! Additional
 information is available at http://www.170millionamericans.org
http://www.170millionamericans.org/ 

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Re: [Swprograms] [Internetradio] [dxld] Defunding public broadcasting

2011-02-13 Thread David Goren
Here's another voice of reason from Kim Elliott, his comments in italics, who 
predicts that the hardest hit stations would be rural, and would open the band 
to more religious broadcasting.

Will US noncommercial FM frequencies cast out BBC World Service and bring in 
the gloryland chorus?

Posted: 13 Feb 2011   Print   Send a link

City Beat (Cincinnati), 31 Jan 2011, Ben L. Kaufman: NPR and our local public 
news station, WVXU (91.7 FM), get a small but important part of their annual 
budgets from Congress. Rightwingers want to cut or end federal funding because 
politically neutral NPR isn’t the GOP’s Fox News. It’s another reason to 
support WVXU and other public radio stations with cash and supportive messages 
to House members, senators and the White House. Meanwhile, Brits offer a timely 
lesson of what happens when a conservative government pleads poverty and 
decides to slash its most famous and reliable modern export, the BBC World 
Service (heard here at night on WVXU). Unlike its domestic services, BBC’s 
World Service is funded by the Foreign Office. Despite taking the Queen’s 
shilling, it rarely danced the Queen’s tune; BBC has a sterling reputation for 
neutrality and accuracy, especially where uncensored news media do not exist. 
So far, cuts haven’t targeted English-language broadcasts to North America. 
Rather, BBC’s decision to close some foreign language broadcasts and fire of 
hundreds of linguists will impoverish the information available to listeners 
everywhere.
Mr. Kaufman mentioned both NPR and BBC World Service, but did not completely 
make the connection between the two. (BBCWS is actually distributed by Public 
Radio International, but to stations that are mostly NPR affiliates.) If the 
Republicans who want to zero out the budget for the Corporation for Public 
Broadcasting succeed, public radio stations in non-urban areas will lose a 
large part of their funding. Not only will they no longer be able to purchase 
the rights to relay BBC World Service, they might have to go off the air. 
Because their frequencies are between 88 and 92 MHz, their licenses must be 
sold or transferred to other non-commercial entities. They would likely become 
religious radio stations, which almost certainly will not carry BBC. In 
addition to their theology, or as part of it, these stations would advocate for 
socially conservative causes. This gives Congressional Republicans another 
incentive to eliminate funding for public broadcasting.

On Feb 13, 2011, at 1:50 PM, Scott Royall wrote:

 A voice of  reason.
  
 From: swprograms-boun...@hard-core-dx.com 
 [mailto:swprograms-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf Of Joe Buch
 Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 11:29
 To: Shortwave programming discussion; Internet radio discussion
 Cc: Internet radio discussion
 Subject: Re: [Swprograms] [Internetradio] [dxld] Defunding public broadcasting
  
 As one who has worked as a volunteer for over 10 years at NPR-afiliated 
 stations in Maryland and Florida, I have been able to see first hand how 
 important the Federal $$$ are to capital improvements.  But the Federal $$$s 
 make up only about 15% of the operating budgets of the stations I have been 
 associated with.  It will not be the end of the world if the legislation 
 passes.
  
 It might even be beneficial to have public broadcasting stop sucking on the 
 federal teet.  The government can use their puppet-master power to put 
 pressure on NPR to conform to the party line.  When the network deviates off 
 the track, the threat of federal fund withdrawal causes the network to do a 
 mid-course correction.  Pacifica does a good, albeit biased, job of public 
 broadcasting with no federal support.  Their financial supporters contribute 
 to their operations because they believe the message is worthy of their 
 support. 
  
 Many folks refuse to contribute to their NPR-affiliated station because they 
 claim that their tax dollars already pay for public radio and they do not 
 feel obligated to pay twice.  It is a reasonable argument that will be 
 blunted if this legislation passes.  So it might even be beneficial to the 
 long-term health of public broadcasting to make the system more efficient and 
 responsive to the public by cutting out government funding.
  
 Joe Buch
 
 --- On Sun, 2/13/11, Richard Cuff rdc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From: Richard Cuff rdc...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Internetradio] [Swprograms] [dxld] Defunding public broadcasting
 To: Shortwave programming discussion swprograms@hard-core-dx.com
 Cc: Internet radio discussion internetra...@hard-core-dx.com
 Date: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 2:44 AM
 
 Many public stations have edited their websites to mention this.
 
 There have been threats before, I believe Newt Gingrich led the last
 unsuccessful defunding attempt in the second half of President
 Clinton's first term.
 
 Speaking as a fan of Public Radio (and a longtime member of WHYY in
 Philadelphia) I am also hopeful this effort 

Re: [Swprograms] [Internetradio] [dxld] Defunding public broadcasting

2011-02-13 Thread John Figliozzi
All true, buy let's not kid ourselves that defunding public radio and tv is 
part of some noble effort to bring the federal budget to heel. It's an 
ideological attack pure and simple. We could close the budget gap far more 
quickly by ending tax breaks for religious institutions or ending sacred cow 
military projects that address dangers we no longer face or which have proven 
themselves infeasible, but I see none of that in the legislation proposed by 
the new House majority.

In saying this, I'm not the one injecting politics into the discussion because 
it's already in there by virtue of the defund CPR proposal.

John Figliozzi

Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 13, 2011, at 12:29 PM, Joe Buch josephb...@yahoo.com wrote:

 As one who has worked as a volunteer for over 10 years at NPR-afiliated 
 stations in Maryland and Florida, I have been able to see first hand how 
 important the Federal $$$ are to capital improvements.  But the Federal $$$s 
 make up only about 15% of the operating budgets of the stations I have been 
 associated with.  It will not be the end of the world if the legislation 
 passes.
  
 It might even be beneficial to have public broadcasting stop sucking on the 
 federal teet.  The government can use their puppet-master power to put 
 pressure on NPR to conform to the party line.  When the network deviates off 
 the track, the threat of federal fund withdrawal causes the network to do a 
 mid-course correction.  Pacifica does a good, albeit biased, job of public 
 broadcasting with no federal support.  Their financial supporters contribute 
 to their operations because they believe the message is worthy of their 
 support. 
  
 Many folks refuse to contribute to their NPR-affiliated station because they 
 claim that their tax dollars already pay for public radio and they do not 
 feel obligated to pay twice.  It is a reasonable argument that will be 
 blunted if this legislation passes.  So it might even be beneficial to the 
 long-term health of public broadcasting to make the system more efficient and 
 responsive to the public by cutting out government funding.
  
 Joe Buch
 
 --- On Sun, 2/13/11, Richard Cuff rdc...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From: Richard Cuff rdc...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Internetradio] [Swprograms] [dxld] Defunding public broadcasting
 To: Shortwave programming discussion swprograms@hard-core-dx.com
 Cc: Internet radio discussion internetra...@hard-core-dx.com
 Date: Sunday, February 13, 2011, 2:44 AM
 
 Many public stations have edited their websites to mention this.
 
 There have been threats before, I believe Newt Gingrich led the last
 unsuccessful defunding attempt in the second half of President
 Clinton's first term.
 
 Speaking as a fan of Public Radio (and a longtime member of WHYY in
 Philadelphia) I am also hopeful this effort will see a similar fate,
 since, given the variety of the USA's public radio segment now broadly
 enjoyable via the Internet, Public Radio remains an important
 component of my own listening.  I have already contacted my
 congressman's office.
 
 I would also suggest personalizing any message or communication,
 stating how important the public radio station in *your* district is.
 Positioning your member of Congress as an enemy of station , I
 believe, helps to bring the threat to a very visible local level.
 
 Richard C
 
 
 On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 11:42 PM, Glenn Hauser wghau...@yahoo.com wrote:
  More about this from the manager of KGOU:
 
  http://kgou.org/index.php?manager-rsquo-s-desk
 
  --- On Sat, 2/12/11, Glenn Hauser wghau...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  IMPORTANT LEGISLATIVE UPDATE:
 
  IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS, the House of Representatives will
  take action on a bill that provides continued funding for
  government operations. Under this measure, large funding
  cuts have been proposed, **including the likely elimination
  of federal funding for public broadcasting**.
 
  This is on an extremely fast timeline and it's critical
  that your representative hear from you. The House
  switchboard is (202) 224-3121 or (202) 225-3121 and it is
  operational 24/7, so truly, you can call ANYTIME and it
  won't take but a minute of your time!! Additional
  information is available at http://www.170millionamericans.org
 
  We appreciate your continuing interest in and support of
  WUOT Public Radio (WUOT mailing list Feb 12 via DXLD)
 
 
 
 
  
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Re: [Swprograms] [Internetradio] [dxld] Defunding public broadcasting

2011-02-13 Thread Richard Cuff
It's always been an ideological attack -- 'twas so in Mr. Gingrich's attack
in the 1990s.

Some additional observations:

1) For the most part, the public radio vs. religious radio battle tends to
happen at the time of station licensing by the FCC when interests from both
camps compete for new licenses.  I cannot recall any instances where
existing public radio licenses were sold to religious broadcasters due to a
funding challenge, though I suppose that could happen.

2) Joe Buch is correct in that direct CPB funding is a comparatively small
portion of most radio stations' budgets.  However, CPB does have a bigger
funding stake in syndicated public radio programming; I know of several
syndicated classical music programs that receive a good-sized chunk of
funding from the CPB; the programs then get other revenue from syndication
fees from the stations.  Loss of CPB funding could more quickly jeopardize
individual programs than stations themselves.

One would hope that the capital that's been available for recent
commercial-to-public conversions such as KUSC-KDFC (San Francisco), KING
(Seattle), WQXR (NYC) and WCRB (Boston) would be available for these
stations at risk as well.

Richard Cuff / Allentown, PA

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 2:33 PM, John Figliozzi jfigl...@nycap.rr.comwrote:

 All true, buy let's not kid ourselves that defunding public radio and tv is
 part of some noble effort to bring the federal budget to heel. It's an
 ideological attack pure and simple. We could close the budget gap far more
 quickly by ending tax breaks for religious institutions or ending sacred cow
 military projects that address dangers we no longer face or which have
 proven themselves infeasible, but I see none of that in the legislation
 proposed by the new House majority.

 In saying this, I'm not the one injecting politics into the discussion
 because it's already in there by virtue of the defund CPR proposal.



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Re: [Swprograms] [Internetradio] [dxld] Defunding public broadcasting

2011-02-13 Thread Richard Cuff
Another thought...

Non-profit religious stations do have to be circumspect in political
advocacy, particularly when it comes to promoting individual
candidates.  Federal courts have found that churches that advocate
individual political candidates running for office could lose their
non-profit status.

RC

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Richard Cuff rdc...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's always been an ideological attack -- 'twas so in Mr. Gingrich's attack
 in the 1990s.

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Re: [Swprograms] [Internetradio] [dxld] Defunding public broadcasting

2011-02-13 Thread Scott Royall
I think you missed Joe's whole point. Churches do not pay FIT.

Can we please get off politics before I lose control and go Spartacus* on
this vipers' nest of liberals? 

*I refer to the 2009-2010 Starz TV series. It made 300 pale in comparison.

-Original Message-
From: swprograms-boun...@hard-core-dx.com
[mailto:swprograms-boun...@hard-core-dx.com] On Behalf Of Richard Cuff
Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2011 16:14
To: Shortwave programming discussion
Cc: Internet radio discussion
Subject: Re: [Swprograms] [Internetradio] [dxld] Defunding public
broadcasting

Another thought...

Non-profit religious stations do have to be circumspect in political
advocacy, particularly when it comes to promoting individual
candidates.  Federal courts have found that churches that advocate
individual political candidates running for office could lose their
non-profit status.

RC

On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 5:08 PM, Richard Cuff rdc...@gmail.com wrote:
 It's always been an ideological attack -- 'twas so in Mr. Gingrich's
attack
 in the 1990s.

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