[symfony-users] Re: Symfoclipse?

2007-11-28 Thread Simon Roby

Got an answer, he asks for 20 euros per license.

On 11/28/07, Simon Roby <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I was curious about that, so I asked him by email yesterday. Still
> waiting for an answer. I'll let the list know the answer if/when I get
> it.
>
> On 11/27/07, Ant Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Well the question is how much is he aiming for for a commercial license? I
> > havent tried it out yet but I might be willing to pay around 15-25 USD for a
> > good YAML editor and more advanced cli integration in Eclipse.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 11/27/07 4:13 PM, "Tristan Rivoallan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > On Nov 27, 2007 10:00 PM, Ant Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> So i was on my search for a decent YAML setup for Eclipse after getting
> > >> annoyed with yamlak again and i found this... did i miss an announcment 
> > >> or
> > >> have the devs not posted to the list for some reason?
> > >>
> > >> http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/Web_Links-index-req-viewlink-cid-1120.ht
> > >> ml
> > >
> > > interesting, but the licence will not suit most of symfony users :
> > >
> > > "This software is licensed under a 'free for non-commercial users' 
> > > license.
> > > You can use the software exclusively at home for non-commercial or
> > > job-related purposes."
> > >
> > > http://noy.cc/symfoclipse/license.html
> > >
> > > ++
> > > tristan
>
>
> --
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[symfony-users] Re: Symfoclipse?

2007-11-28 Thread Ant Cunningham



On Wed November 28 2007 11:48:50 am Alistair Stead wrote:
> I personally have installed RAD Rails that has a really good YAML editor
> within it...
> Once installed you can work in you preferred PHP perspective but still take
> advantage of the YAML editor
>

Well the Ruby editor wasnt too bad (I was using RDT is that the same plugin as 
RAD Rails ?) but for some reason it kept trying to build the ruby stuff even 
though it wasnt associated with my perspective. Probably user error on my 
part.

However, it wasnt exactly feature rich... but it was at least as good as the 
TextMate yaml editing.

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[symfony-users] Re: Symfoclipse?

2007-11-28 Thread Ant Cunningham

On Wed November 28 2007 11:18:50 am Fabian Lange wrote:

> If you consider real a value in having a yaml editor in eclipse I volunteer
> to start working on one. Lets see what Christmas time brings.
> Shouldn’t be too complicated.
>

That would be awesome.

In going along with that i installed Symfoclipse last night and came across a 
couple things leaving it less than desireable:

1.)  I dont know how he went about creating the plugin but the YAML editor 
isnt configureable in the preferences. Alone this isnt a problem, but it 
creates an issue as for some reason he dosent have  mapped to insert 2 
spaces, so you have to manually  which is annoying. I suppose i 
could be doing something wrong as im brand new to Eclipse but...

2.) He has the appearance set up to show indents as a colored block. Id like 
to get rid of this or turn it on or off as its not particularly useful and 
just makes it harder to read.

3.) needs an indent/outdent command in context menu

4.) I agree with Nicolas.. some sort of schema/dtd validation tool would be 
bliss (YSD, YTD ?? :-) ).

Beyond the YAML editor... i cant seem to get the task integration to work. Im 
using Dave's tip on svn:externals to lib/symfony and data/symfony so the 
executeable should be on the build path (shouldnt it?) but it still says it 
cant find symfony. Additionally on a which list for Eclipse would be a 
Symfony template/html editor with insertion templates synonymous with the 
TextMate bundle. Ive tried adding these myself to the html templates but they 
always bring up html element suggestions instead. tif, telse and tforeach all 
work but are at varying positions on the completion list,  my image_tag, and 
include_component dont show up at all - admittedly this may be lack of 
understanding on eclipse as opposed to an issue with eclipse.



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[symfony-users] Re: Symfoclipse?

2007-11-28 Thread Alistair Stead
I personally have installed RAD Rails that has a really good YAML editor
within it...
Once installed you can work in you preferred PHP perspective but still take
advantage of the YAML editor

On 28/11/2007, Fabian Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Hi,
> okay, bad luck :-)
>
> If you consider real a value in having a yaml editor in eclipse I
> volunteer
> to start working on one. Lets see what Christmas time brings.
> Shouldn't be too complicated.
>
> .: Fabian
>
> -Original Message-
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> om
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> To: symfony-users@googlegroups.com
> Subject: [symfony-users] Re: Symfoclipse?
>
> On 11/28/07, Fabian Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > https://sourceforge.net/projects/yamlak/
>
> https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=206669 :)
>
> > I don't see a real value in that. Otherwise I would have developed this
> as
> a
> > plugin (could be done for 20 usd :-))
>
> What we miss here, in CLI or Eclipse or what you want is a YAML syntax
> validation tool. The radrails YAML editor doesn't do the job and I
> can't find something approaching. If the Symfoclipse plugin provide
> real syntax validation, there's a real value there I guess.
>
> Furtermore, if we can have something approaching DTD or schemas
> validation for YAML integrated in such tools (eg. using
> http://www.kuwata-lab.com/kwalify/), it could be paradise :)
>
> ++
>
> --
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>
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>
>
> >
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[symfony-users] Re: Symfoclipse?

2007-11-28 Thread Fabian Lange

Hi,
okay, bad luck :-)

If you consider real a value in having a yaml editor in eclipse I volunteer
to start working on one. Lets see what Christmas time brings.
Shouldn’t be too complicated. 

.: Fabian

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Sent: Mittwoch, 28. November 2007 17:08
To: symfony-users@googlegroups.com
Subject: [symfony-users] Re: Symfoclipse?

On 11/28/07, Fabian Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> https://sourceforge.net/projects/yamlak/

https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=206669 :)

> I don't see a real value in that. Otherwise I would have developed this as
a
> plugin (could be done for 20 usd :-))

What we miss here, in CLI or Eclipse or what you want is a YAML syntax
validation tool. The radrails YAML editor doesn't do the job and I
can't find something approaching. If the Symfoclipse plugin provide
real syntax validation, there's a real value there I guess.

Furtermore, if we can have something approaching DTD or schemas
validation for YAML integrated in such tools (eg. using
http://www.kuwata-lab.com/kwalify/), it could be paradise :)

++

-- 
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Clever Age - conseil en architecture technique
GSM: +33 6 60 92 08 67  Tél: +33 1 53 34 66 10




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[symfony-users] Re: Symfoclipse?

2007-11-28 Thread Nicolas Perriault
On 11/28/07, Fabian Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> https://sourceforge.net/projects/yamlak/

https://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=206669 :)

> I don't see a real value in that. Otherwise I would have developed this as a
> plugin (could be done for 20 usd :-))

What we miss here, in CLI or Eclipse or what you want is a YAML syntax
validation tool. The radrails YAML editor doesn't do the job and I
can't find something approaching. If the Symfoclipse plugin provide
real syntax validation, there's a real value there I guess.

Furtermore, if we can have something approaching DTD or schemas
validation for YAML integrated in such tools (eg. using
http://www.kuwata-lab.com/kwalify/), it could be paradise :)

++

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Clever Age - conseil en architecture technique
GSM: +33 6 60 92 08 67  Tél: +33 1 53 34 66 10

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[symfony-users] Re: Symfoclipse?

2007-11-28 Thread Fabian Lange

Really?
No offense meant, this plugin could develop.
Yaml editors are already some out:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/yamlak/

(lgpl. As it is a tool you can do with the developed software what you want)

And CLI integration for some commands cann be very easily done with external
command launcher.

I don't see a real value in that. Otherwise I would have developed this as a
plugin (could be done for 20 usd :-))
.: Fabian

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Subject: [symfony-users] Re: Symfoclipse?


Well the question is how much is he aiming for for a commercial license? I
havent tried it out yet but I might be willing to pay around 15-25 USD for a
good YAML editor and more advanced cli integration in Eclipse.



On 11/27/07 4:13 PM, "Tristan Rivoallan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Nov 27, 2007 10:00 PM, Ant Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> So i was on my search for a decent YAML setup for Eclipse after getting
>> annoyed with yamlak again and i found this... did i miss an announcment
or
>> have the devs not posted to the list for some reason?
>> 
>>
http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/Web_Links-index-req-viewlink-cid-1120.ht
>> ml
> 
> interesting, but the licence will not suit most of symfony users :
> 
> "This software is licensed under a 'free for non-commercial users'
license.
> You can use the software exclusively at home for non-commercial or
> job-related purposes."
> 
> http://noy.cc/symfoclipse/license.html
> 
> ++
> tristan
> 
> > 





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[symfony-users] Re: Symfoclipse?

2007-11-28 Thread prodigitalson


yeah i sent im a message as well and havent gotten a reply either;

 

On Wed Nov 28 06:39 , 'Simon Roby' <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> sent:



I was curious about that, so I asked him by email yesterday. Still


waiting for an answer. I'll let the list know the answer if/when I get


it.





On 11/27/07, Ant Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>


> Well the question is how much is he aiming for for a commercial license? I


> havent tried it out yet but I might be willing to pay around 15-25 USD for a


> good YAML editor and more advanced cli integration in Eclipse.


>


>


>


> On 11/27/07 4:13 PM, "Tristan Rivoallan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


>


> >


> > On Nov 27, 2007 10:00 PM, Ant Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


> >>


> >>


> >> So i was on my search for a decent YAML setup for Eclipse after getting


> >> annoyed with yamlak again and i found this... did i miss an announcment or


> >> have the devs not posted to the list for some reason?


> >>


> >> http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/Web_Links-index-req-viewlink-cid-1120.ht


> >> ml


> >


> > interesting, but the licence will not suit most of symfony users :


> >


> > "This software is licensed under a 'free for non-commercial users' license.


> > You can use the software exclusively at home for non-commercial or


> > job-related purposes."


> >


> > http://noy.cc/symfoclipse/license.html


> >


> > ++


> > tristan








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[symfony-users] Re: Symfoclipse?

2007-11-28 Thread Simon Roby

I was curious about that, so I asked him by email yesterday. Still
waiting for an answer. I'll let the list know the answer if/when I get
it.

On 11/27/07, Ant Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Well the question is how much is he aiming for for a commercial license? I
> havent tried it out yet but I might be willing to pay around 15-25 USD for a
> good YAML editor and more advanced cli integration in Eclipse.
>
>
>
> On 11/27/07 4:13 PM, "Tristan Rivoallan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > On Nov 27, 2007 10:00 PM, Ant Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> So i was on my search for a decent YAML setup for Eclipse after getting
> >> annoyed with yamlak again and i found this... did i miss an announcment or
> >> have the devs not posted to the list for some reason?
> >>
> >> http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/Web_Links-index-req-viewlink-cid-1120.ht
> >> ml
> >
> > interesting, but the licence will not suit most of symfony users :
> >
> > "This software is licensed under a 'free for non-commercial users' license.
> > You can use the software exclusively at home for non-commercial or
> > job-related purposes."
> >
> > http://noy.cc/symfoclipse/license.html
> >
> > ++
> > tristan


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[symfony-users] Re: Symfoclipse?

2007-11-27 Thread Ant Cunningham

Well the question is how much is he aiming for for a commercial license? I
havent tried it out yet but I might be willing to pay around 15-25 USD for a
good YAML editor and more advanced cli integration in Eclipse.



On 11/27/07 4:13 PM, "Tristan Rivoallan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Nov 27, 2007 10:00 PM, Ant Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> So i was on my search for a decent YAML setup for Eclipse after getting
>> annoyed with yamlak again and i found this... did i miss an announcment or
>> have the devs not posted to the list for some reason?
>> 
>> http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/Web_Links-index-req-viewlink-cid-1120.ht
>> ml
> 
> interesting, but the licence will not suit most of symfony users :
> 
> "This software is licensed under a 'free for non-commercial users' license.
> You can use the software exclusively at home for non-commercial or
> job-related purposes."
> 
> http://noy.cc/symfoclipse/license.html
> 
> ++
> tristan
> 
> > 



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[symfony-users] Re: Symfoclipse?

2007-11-27 Thread Tristan Rivoallan

On Nov 27, 2007 10:00 PM, Ant Cunningham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> So i was on my search for a decent YAML setup for Eclipse after getting
> annoyed with yamlak again and i found this... did i miss an announcment or
> have the devs not posted to the list for some reason?
>
> http://www.eclipseplugincentral.com/Web_Links-index-req-viewlink-cid-1120.ht
> ml

interesting, but the licence will not suit most of symfony users :

"This software is licensed under a 'free for non-commercial users' license.
You can use the software exclusively at home for non-commercial or
job-related purposes."

http://noy.cc/symfoclipse/license.html

++
tristan

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