Re: [Synfig-devl] JACK transport support, to integrate with audio editors/DAWs

2014-03-25 Thread Cillian de Róiste
Thanks so much Konstantin, that's super helpful!

On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Konstantin Dmitriev
 wrote:
> Hello, Cillian!
>
> Great to see the progress here!
> You need to edit synfig-studio/configure.ac file.
> I would recommend to read this document on topic -
> http://www.openismus.com/documents/linux/using_libraries/using_libraries
> Also, you can examine the git history of synfig repository and look at
> the commits touching synfig-core/configure.ac or
> synfig-studio/configure.ac - they might help as well.
>
> Regards,
> K.
>
>
> 2014-03-25 5:26 GMT+07:00 Cillian de Róiste :
>> Hi,
>>
>> I've managed to add some very very basic JACK Transport support:
>> https://github.com/cillianderoiste/synfig/tree/jack-transport
>>
>> This connects to JACK on start-up and the JACK transport is synced
>> with the Synfig canvas controls and play head (but not the other way
>> around). It's very basic, and not at all ready for merging, but it
>> would be great to get some advice from developers about how to improve
>> on it.
>>
>> I could particularly use some help in getting it to be configured
>> properly. I don't know how to tell autoconf (or maybe libtool?) how to
>> find the jack headers and libs. I've been manually hacking
>> synfigstudio_LINK in synfig-studio/src/gui/Makefile and
>> dependency_libs in synfig-studio/src/synfigapp/libsynfigapp.la but I
>> haven't yet figured how that's supposed to work.
>>
>> Some pointers to articles/documentation would be greatly appreciated!
>> I probably won't have much time to work on this again for the next two
>> weeks, but I look forward to learning more.
>>
>> All the best,
>> Cillian
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Konstantin Dmitriev
>>  wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> Just want to mention that the support for JACK transport will be the
>>> first thing to implement, if the "Sound Support" will be chosen as a
>>> monthly priority within our monthly campaign -
>>> http://igg.me/at/synfig-april-2014/x/2188395
>>> But if some external developer will get interested to implement that
>>> on his own, that would be nice, of course.
>>> We encourage to place bounties here -
>>> https://www.bountysource.com/trackers/424077-synfig
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> K.
>>>
>>>
>>> 2014-03-14 16:25 GMT+07:00 Cillian de Róiste :
 On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:00 PM,   wrote:
> Cillian, do you have any idea of how synfig run on linux-rt ?

 Actually, I haven't used linux-rt in a long time. I believe it doesn't
 offer such a great benefit these days compared to the normal kernel.

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Re: [Synfig-devl] JACK transport support, to integrate with audio editors/DAWs

2014-03-25 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
Hello, Cillian!

Great to see the progress here!
You need to edit synfig-studio/configure.ac file.
I would recommend to read this document on topic -
http://www.openismus.com/documents/linux/using_libraries/using_libraries
Also, you can examine the git history of synfig repository and look at
the commits touching synfig-core/configure.ac or
synfig-studio/configure.ac - they might help as well.

Regards,
K.


2014-03-25 5:26 GMT+07:00 Cillian de Róiste :
> Hi,
>
> I've managed to add some very very basic JACK Transport support:
> https://github.com/cillianderoiste/synfig/tree/jack-transport
>
> This connects to JACK on start-up and the JACK transport is synced
> with the Synfig canvas controls and play head (but not the other way
> around). It's very basic, and not at all ready for merging, but it
> would be great to get some advice from developers about how to improve
> on it.
>
> I could particularly use some help in getting it to be configured
> properly. I don't know how to tell autoconf (or maybe libtool?) how to
> find the jack headers and libs. I've been manually hacking
> synfigstudio_LINK in synfig-studio/src/gui/Makefile and
> dependency_libs in synfig-studio/src/synfigapp/libsynfigapp.la but I
> haven't yet figured how that's supposed to work.
>
> Some pointers to articles/documentation would be greatly appreciated!
> I probably won't have much time to work on this again for the next two
> weeks, but I look forward to learning more.
>
> All the best,
> Cillian
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Konstantin Dmitriev
>  wrote:
>> Hello.
>>
>> Just want to mention that the support for JACK transport will be the
>> first thing to implement, if the "Sound Support" will be chosen as a
>> monthly priority within our monthly campaign -
>> http://igg.me/at/synfig-april-2014/x/2188395
>> But if some external developer will get interested to implement that
>> on his own, that would be nice, of course.
>> We encourage to place bounties here -
>> https://www.bountysource.com/trackers/424077-synfig
>>
>> Regards,
>> K.
>>
>>
>> 2014-03-14 16:25 GMT+07:00 Cillian de Róiste :
>>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:00 PM,   wrote:
 Cillian, do you have any idea of how synfig run on linux-rt ?
>>>
>>> Actually, I haven't used linux-rt in a long time. I believe it doesn't
>>> offer such a great benefit these days compared to the normal kernel.
>>>


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Re: [Synfig-devl] JACK transport support, to integrate with audio editors/DAWs

2014-03-24 Thread Cillian de Róiste
Hi,

I've managed to add some very very basic JACK Transport support:
https://github.com/cillianderoiste/synfig/tree/jack-transport

This connects to JACK on start-up and the JACK transport is synced
with the Synfig canvas controls and play head (but not the other way
around). It's very basic, and not at all ready for merging, but it
would be great to get some advice from developers about how to improve
on it.

I could particularly use some help in getting it to be configured
properly. I don't know how to tell autoconf (or maybe libtool?) how to
find the jack headers and libs. I've been manually hacking
synfigstudio_LINK in synfig-studio/src/gui/Makefile and
dependency_libs in synfig-studio/src/synfigapp/libsynfigapp.la but I
haven't yet figured how that's supposed to work.

Some pointers to articles/documentation would be greatly appreciated!
I probably won't have much time to work on this again for the next two
weeks, but I look forward to learning more.

All the best,
Cillian


On Fri, Mar 14, 2014 at 3:50 PM, Konstantin Dmitriev
 wrote:
> Hello.
>
> Just want to mention that the support for JACK transport will be the
> first thing to implement, if the "Sound Support" will be chosen as a
> monthly priority within our monthly campaign -
> http://igg.me/at/synfig-april-2014/x/2188395
> But if some external developer will get interested to implement that
> on his own, that would be nice, of course.
> We encourage to place bounties here -
> https://www.bountysource.com/trackers/424077-synfig
>
> Regards,
> K.
>
>
> 2014-03-14 16:25 GMT+07:00 Cillian de Róiste :
>> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:00 PM,   wrote:
>>> Cillian, do you have any idea of how synfig run on linux-rt ?
>>
>> Actually, I haven't used linux-rt in a long time. I believe it doesn't
>> offer such a great benefit these days compared to the normal kernel.
>>
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Re: [Synfig-devl] JACK transport support, to integrate with audio editors/DAWs

2014-03-14 Thread Konstantin Dmitriev
Hello.

Just want to mention that the support for JACK transport will be the
first thing to implement, if the "Sound Support" will be chosen as a
monthly priority within our monthly campaign -
http://igg.me/at/synfig-april-2014/x/2188395
But if some external developer will get interested to implement that
on his own, that would be nice, of course.
We encourage to place bounties here -
https://www.bountysource.com/trackers/424077-synfig

Regards,
K.


2014-03-14 16:25 GMT+07:00 Cillian de Róiste :
> On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:00 PM,   wrote:
>> Cillian, do you have any idea of how synfig run on linux-rt ?
>
> Actually, I haven't used linux-rt in a long time. I believe it doesn't
> offer such a great benefit these days compared to the normal kernel.
>
>>
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Re: [Synfig-devl] JACK transport support, to integrate with audio editors/DAWs

2014-03-14 Thread Cillian de Róiste
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 7:00 PM,   wrote:
> Cillian, do you have any idea of how synfig run on linux-rt ?

Actually, I haven't used linux-rt in a long time. I believe it doesn't
offer such a great benefit these days compared to the normal kernel.

>
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Re: [Synfig-devl] JACK transport support, to integrate with audio editors/DAWs

2014-03-14 Thread Cillian de Róiste
On Thu, Mar 13, 2014 at 6:47 PM,  wrote:
>
> I want to say hundred time yes  but this could be little spamy  just 
> my opinion
> >>troll part, and mister Yu had prepared the work by letting 0.65.dev users 
> >>had a "menu/file/import sound" entry :-)<<

Great! I'll have a poke at it over the weekend. I found a nice thread
about how Kdenlive added JACK transport support [1] so maybe we can
re-use some of that. Don't expect much though, I'm a python web
developer, so this is quite a stretch!

[1] https://www.kdenlive.org/mantis/print_bug_page.php?bug_id=1397

>
> Hi,
>
> I know something like this was mentioned on the mailing list a few years
> ago, but I wonder if anything ever came from it. It would be really useful
> if Synfig was able to work as a JACK transport client [1], so that we could
> do audio editing in a full blown DAW (e.g. Ardour) and animation in Synfig.
>
> Has anyone tried this already and decided against it, or are there any
> objections to this approach?
>
> Perhaps we could commission someone from the Linux audio community to help
> out via the bounty system?
>
> All the best,
> Cillian
>
>
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Re: [Synfig-devl] JACK transport support, to integrate with audio editors/DAWs

2014-03-13 Thread jcomee
The sound import menu entry is existing for a long time. It is not introduced by me. :)In fact, Synfig studio supports sound and was disabled for lic issue if I remembered correctly.CheersYu-- Sent from my HP Pre3On 14 Mar 2014 01:47, d.j@free.fr  wrote: I want to say hundred time yes  but this could be little spamy  just my opinion>>troll part, and mister Yu had prepared the work by letting 0.65.dev users had a "menu/file/import sound" entry :-)<

Re: [Synfig-devl] JACK transport support, to integrate with audio editors/DAWs

2014-03-13 Thread d . j . a . y
Cillian, do you have any idea of how synfig run on linux-rt ? 
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