Re: [Syslog] Syslog-sign -protocol

2006-08-14 Thread Chris Lonvick

Hi All,

On Sun, 13 Aug 2006, Rainer Gerhards wrote:


Hi,

A general comment: syslog-sign is still based on rfc 3164 and has ist own 
format definitions. It needs to be edited to utilize the new work in 
syslog-protocol. It should now use structured data for ist signature blocks.


Alex has moved much of it to be conformant with syslog-protocol.  The work 
that needs to be addressed (as I see it :)


For the Signature Block, should the payload of signatures be part of the 
ssign SD-ID, or should it be the payload (behind the BOM)?  Right now, 
it is part of the SD-ID.


Similarly, about the ssign-cert and it's payload.  I think it likely 
that the Payload Block can be placed within a single Certificate Block 
based upon our discussions of the max length.


The document needs to define how to use @enterpriseID in some cases.

Section 8.2 - the length is no longer limited to 1024B.

Section 9 - Cookie Fields are no longer used.

The IANA section also needs to specify which SD-IDs and SD-Params should 
be registered.


Should other SD-IDs be included with ssign and ssign-cert SD-IDs?  (I 
think so as that's how we include information about time accuracy, etc.)


Thanks,
Chris

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RE: [Syslog] Syslog-sign -protocol

2006-08-14 Thread David Harrington
Hi,

When can we get an updated revision of syslog-sign? 

Our current timeline calls for starting WGLC Aug 28. The changes sound
sufficiently large that we should definitely try to review the changes
before we start a last call on the document.

David Harrington
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 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Lonvick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 10:33 AM
 To: Rainer Gerhards
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Syslog] Syslog-sign  -protocol
 
 Hi All,
 
 On Sun, 13 Aug 2006, Rainer Gerhards wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  A general comment: syslog-sign is still based on rfc 3164 
 and has ist own format definitions. It needs to be edited to 
 utilize the new work in syslog-protocol. It should now use 
 structured data for ist signature blocks.
 
 Alex has moved much of it to be conformant with 
 syslog-protocol.  The work 
 that needs to be addressed (as I see it :)
 
 For the Signature Block, should the payload of signatures be 
 part of the 
 ssign SD-ID, or should it be the payload (behind the BOM)?  
 Right now, 
 it is part of the SD-ID.
 
 Similarly, about the ssign-cert and it's payload.  I think 
 it likely 
 that the Payload Block can be placed within a single 
 Certificate Block 
 based upon our discussions of the max length.
 
 The document needs to define how to use @enterpriseID in some
cases.
 
 Section 8.2 - the length is no longer limited to 1024B.
 
 Section 9 - Cookie Fields are no longer used.
 
 The IANA section also needs to specify which SD-IDs and 
 SD-Params should 
 be registered.
 
 Should other SD-IDs be included with ssign and ssign-cert 
 SD-IDs?  (I 
 think so as that's how we include information about time 
 accuracy, etc.)
 
 Thanks,
 Chris
 
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RE: [Syslog] Syslog-sign -protocol

2006-08-14 Thread Rainer Gerhards
Chris,

Sorry, I obviously had a previous copy cached... I've just downloaded a
fresh one and started re-reading it. As you say, it already is adapted
to syslog-protocol.

Let me raise one point without being completely through with it: -sign
now supports RFC 3164, 3195 and -protocol format. I see value in that
approach (works for each and everything). On the other hand, it may
introduce additional complexity, even on the operator side
(configuration). Given the fact that -sign code needs to be written from
scratch, wouldn't it make sense to limit it to just -protocol format?

Rainer 

 -Original Message-
 From: Chris Lonvick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: Monday, August 14, 2006 8:33 AM
 To: Rainer Gerhards
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [Syslog] Syslog-sign  -protocol
 
 Hi All,
 
 On Sun, 13 Aug 2006, Rainer Gerhards wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  A general comment: syslog-sign is still based on rfc 3164 
 and has ist own format definitions. It needs to be edited to 
 utilize the new work in syslog-protocol. It should now use 
 structured data for ist signature blocks.
 
 Alex has moved much of it to be conformant with 
 syslog-protocol.  The work 
 that needs to be addressed (as I see it :)
 
 For the Signature Block, should the payload of signatures be 
 part of the 
 ssign SD-ID, or should it be the payload (behind the BOM)?  
 Right now, 
 it is part of the SD-ID.
 
 Similarly, about the ssign-cert and it's payload.  I think 
 it likely 
 that the Payload Block can be placed within a single 
 Certificate Block 
 based upon our discussions of the max length.
 
 The document needs to define how to use @enterpriseID in some cases.
 
 Section 8.2 - the length is no longer limited to 1024B.
 
 Section 9 - Cookie Fields are no longer used.
 
 The IANA section also needs to specify which SD-IDs and 
 SD-Params should 
 be registered.
 
 Should other SD-IDs be included with ssign and ssign-cert 
 SD-IDs?  (I 
 think so as that's how we include information about time 
 accuracy, etc.)
 
 Thanks,
 Chris
 

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[Syslog] Syslog-sign -protocol

2006-08-13 Thread Rainer Gerhards
Hi,

A general comment: syslog-sign is still based on rfc 3164 and has ist own 
format definitions. It needs to be edited to utilize the new work in 
syslog-protocol. It should now use structured data for ist signature blocks.

rainer
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