Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Separating gudev from systemd

2015-06-02 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 19:16 +0200, David Herrmann wrote:
 Hi
 
 On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
 zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote:
  On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 05:48:15PM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
   On Sun, 2015-05-31 at 02:24 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek 
   wrote:
Hi Bastien,

do you have any plans for the package in Fedora?
   
   I don't plan on packaging it in the short term, so if there are
   volunteers, go right ahead.
  OK, I'll prepare a review request.
 
 Thanks a lot!
 
  @David: could you make a release of gudev 230? There's a few 
  patches
  on top gudev 219 currently, and I think it would be less error
  -prone
  to package the released version with the bumped version number.
 
 I only found a typo-fix on top of 219. Now backported to libgudev and
 pushed into the gnome bugzilla. Same for the 230 version bump. If
 anything else is missing, please let me know.

And libgudev 230 is out. Sorry about the delay, and thank you for
posting those patches on the bugzilla, much better workflow for me :)

https://download.gnome.org/sources/libgudev/230/

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Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Separating gudev from systemd

2015-06-02 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Tue, Jun 02, 2015 at 11:56:43AM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
 On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 19:16 +0200, David Herrmann wrote:
  Hi
  
  On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
  zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote:
   On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 05:48:15PM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Sun, 2015-05-31 at 02:24 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek 
wrote:
 Hi Bastien,
 
 do you have any plans for the package in Fedora?

I don't plan on packaging it in the short term, so if there are
volunteers, go right ahead.
   OK, I'll prepare a review request.
  
  Thanks a lot!
  
   @David: could you make a release of gudev 230? There's a few 
   patches
   on top gudev 219 currently, and I think it would be less error
   -prone
   to package the released version with the bumped version number.
  
  I only found a typo-fix on top of 219. Now backported to libgudev and
  pushed into the gnome bugzilla. Same for the 230 version bump. If
  anything else is missing, please let me know.
 
 And libgudev 230 is out. Sorry about the delay, and thank you for
 posting those patches on the bugzilla, much better workflow for me :)
 
 https://download.gnome.org/sources/libgudev/230/
Thanks!

https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1227334
Reviews and co-maintaners welcome...

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Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Separating gudev from systemd

2015-06-01 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Sun, 2015-05-31 at 02:24 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
 On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:21:06AM +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote:
  On Wed, 2015-05-20 at 12:01 +0200, David Herrmann wrote:
   Hi
   
   On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no 
   wrote:
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Martin Pitt 
martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hey David,
 
 David Herrmann [2015-05-19 17:06 +0200]:
  We're about to remove gudev from the systemd repository, as 
  it 
  is in
  no way related to the systemd code-base, nor used by the 
  systemd
  project.
 
 This makes sense indeed. gudev used to be a standalone 
 project 
 before
 it was merged into udev, so the circle is complete now :-)
 
 For those of us who already packaged gudev from systemd 219, 
 would it
 be possible to bump the current release to 220, so that gudev 
 can 
 be
 packaged without renaming the tarball and doing ugly version 
 numbers?
 Monotonously increasing version numbers and all.. (Yes, there 
 are
 epochs in Debian, and I'm sure RPM has these too, but they 
 might not
 be available everywhere and are generally frowned upon)

While you are at it, why not bump it to 225 or something (just 
to
guarantee that the last systemd release with gudev has a lower 
version
number than gudev at that time, so people can switch over 
whenever
they want without having to worry about going backwards).
   
   I intend to apply patches to systemd-git until we finally removed 
   it
   there. Given that we had 0 patches so far this year, it'll 
   probably
   stay that way. Hence, there's no hurry in replacing gudev from 
   systemd
   with libgudev. It'd be enough to just drop the systemd sub
   -package 
   and
   provide a new libgudev package, even if that might not forcefully
   update the package.
   
   However, I see no reason not to bump it, so I'll gladly follow 
   the
   packager's demands:
   
   https://github.com/systemd
   -devs/libgudev/commit/f6203336e5b1ccf896acc506b54ec895fdae98b4
   
   @Bastien: At your convenience, can you cherry-pick this and do 
   another
   release? Should have done this right away, sorry!
  
  Could you file this in our new Bugzilla? Otherwise, I end up losing
  track of it...
 
 Hi Bastien,
 
 do you have any plans for the package in Fedora?

I don't plan on packaging it in the short term, so if there are
volunteers, go right ahead.

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Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Separating gudev from systemd

2015-06-01 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Mon, 2015-06-01 at 16:51 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 05:48:15PM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
  On Sun, 2015-05-31 at 02:24 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek 
  wrote:
   On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:21:06AM +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote:
On Wed, 2015-05-20 at 12:01 +0200, David Herrmann wrote:
 Hi
 
 On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no 
 wrote:
  On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Martin Pitt 
  martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote:
   Hey David,
   
   David Herrmann [2015-05-19 17:06 +0200]:
We're about to remove gudev from the systemd 
repository, as 
it 
is in
no way related to the systemd code-base, nor used by 
the 
systemd
project.
   
   This makes sense indeed. gudev used to be a standalone 
   project 
   before
   it was merged into udev, so the circle is complete now :
   -)
   
   For those of us who already packaged gudev from systemd 
   219, 
   would it
   be possible to bump the current release to 220, so that 
   gudev 
   can 
   be
   packaged without renaming the tarball and doing ugly 
   version 
   numbers?
   Monotonously increasing version numbers and all.. (Yes, 
   there 
   are
   epochs in Debian, and I'm sure RPM has these too, but 
   they 
   might not
   be available everywhere and are generally frowned upon)
  
  While you are at it, why not bump it to 225 or something 
  (just 
  to
  guarantee that the last systemd release with gudev has a 
  lower 
  version
  number than gudev at that time, so people can switch over 
  whenever
  they want without having to worry about going backwards).
 
 I intend to apply patches to systemd-git until we finally 
 removed 
 it
 there. Given that we had 0 patches so far this year, it'll 
 probably
 stay that way. Hence, there's no hurry in replacing gudev 
 from 
 systemd
 with libgudev. It'd be enough to just drop the systemd sub
 -package 
 and
 provide a new libgudev package, even if that might not 
 forcefully
 update the package.
 
 However, I see no reason not to bump it, so I'll gladly 
 follow 
 the
 packager's demands:
 
 https://github.com/systemd
 -devs/libgudev/commit/f6203336e5b1ccf896acc506b54ec895fdae98b
 4
 
 @Bastien: At your convenience, can you cherry-pick this and 
 do 
 another
 release? Should have done this right away, sorry!

Could you file this in our new Bugzilla? Otherwise, I end up 
losing
track of it...
   
   Hi Bastien,
   
   do you have any plans for the package in Fedora?
  
  I don't plan on packaging it in the short term, so if there are
  volunteers, go right ahead.
 OK, I'll prepare a review request.
 
 @David: could you make a release of gudev 230? There's a few patches
 on top gudev 219 currently, and I think it would be less error-prone
 to package the released version with the bumped version number.


/me patiently waits for the bugzilla patches to be uploaded...
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Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Separating gudev from systemd

2015-06-01 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 05:48:15PM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
 On Sun, 2015-05-31 at 02:24 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
  On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:21:06AM +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote:
   On Wed, 2015-05-20 at 12:01 +0200, David Herrmann wrote:
Hi

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no 
wrote:
 On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Martin Pitt 
 martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote:
  Hey David,
  
  David Herrmann [2015-05-19 17:06 +0200]:
   We're about to remove gudev from the systemd repository, as 
   it 
   is in
   no way related to the systemd code-base, nor used by the 
   systemd
   project.
  
  This makes sense indeed. gudev used to be a standalone 
  project 
  before
  it was merged into udev, so the circle is complete now :-)
  
  For those of us who already packaged gudev from systemd 219, 
  would it
  be possible to bump the current release to 220, so that gudev 
  can 
  be
  packaged without renaming the tarball and doing ugly version 
  numbers?
  Monotonously increasing version numbers and all.. (Yes, there 
  are
  epochs in Debian, and I'm sure RPM has these too, but they 
  might not
  be available everywhere and are generally frowned upon)
 
 While you are at it, why not bump it to 225 or something (just 
 to
 guarantee that the last systemd release with gudev has a lower 
 version
 number than gudev at that time, so people can switch over 
 whenever
 they want without having to worry about going backwards).

I intend to apply patches to systemd-git until we finally removed 
it
there. Given that we had 0 patches so far this year, it'll 
probably
stay that way. Hence, there's no hurry in replacing gudev from 
systemd
with libgudev. It'd be enough to just drop the systemd sub
-package 
and
provide a new libgudev package, even if that might not forcefully
update the package.

However, I see no reason not to bump it, so I'll gladly follow 
the
packager's demands:

https://github.com/systemd
-devs/libgudev/commit/f6203336e5b1ccf896acc506b54ec895fdae98b4

@Bastien: At your convenience, can you cherry-pick this and do 
another
release? Should have done this right away, sorry!
   
   Could you file this in our new Bugzilla? Otherwise, I end up losing
   track of it...
  
  Hi Bastien,
  
  do you have any plans for the package in Fedora?
 
 I don't plan on packaging it in the short term, so if there are
 volunteers, go right ahead.
OK, I'll prepare a review request.

@David: could you make a release of gudev 230? There's a few patches
on top gudev 219 currently, and I think it would be less error-prone
to package the released version with the bumped version number.

Zbyszek


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Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Separating gudev from systemd

2015-06-01 Thread David Herrmann
Hi

On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 6:51 PM, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
zbys...@in.waw.pl wrote:
 On Mon, Jun 01, 2015 at 05:48:15PM +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
 On Sun, 2015-05-31 at 02:24 +, Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek wrote:
  Hi Bastien,
 
  do you have any plans for the package in Fedora?

 I don't plan on packaging it in the short term, so if there are
 volunteers, go right ahead.
 OK, I'll prepare a review request.

Thanks a lot!

 @David: could you make a release of gudev 230? There's a few patches
 on top gudev 219 currently, and I think it would be less error-prone
 to package the released version with the bumped version number.

I only found a typo-fix on top of 219. Now backported to libgudev and
pushed into the gnome bugzilla. Same for the 230 version bump. If
anything else is missing, please let me know.

Thanks
David
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Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Separating gudev from systemd

2015-06-01 Thread Colin Walters
On Tue, May 19, 2015, at 11:06 AM, David Herrmann wrote:
 Hi
 
 We're about to remove gudev from the systemd repository, as it is in
 no way related to the systemd code-base, nor used by the systemd
 project. To preserve backwards compatibility, gudev was extracted into
 a separate repository and is now managed on gnome.org:
 
 Homepage: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/libgudev
 Bugtracker: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi?product=libgudev
 Releases: http://download.gnome.org/sources/libgudev/
 Repository: http://git.gnome.org/browse/libgudev/
 
 ArchLinux: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/li/libgudev/PKGBUILD
 Others: TBD

For reference:

https://git.gnome.org/browse/gnome-continuous/commit/?id=abc335746078670e18e90cacf4983aef44cacf63

updated GNOME Continuous, and it will now start building and shipping libgudev 
git master.
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Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Separating gudev from systemd

2015-05-30 Thread Zbigniew Jędrzejewski-Szmek
On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 11:21:06AM +0200, Bastien Nocera wrote:
 On Wed, 2015-05-20 at 12:01 +0200, David Herrmann wrote:
  Hi
  
  On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:
   On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Martin Pitt 
   martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote:
Hey David,

David Herrmann [2015-05-19 17:06 +0200]:
 We're about to remove gudev from the systemd repository, as it 
 is in
 no way related to the systemd code-base, nor used by the 
 systemd
 project.

This makes sense indeed. gudev used to be a standalone project 
before
it was merged into udev, so the circle is complete now :-)

For those of us who already packaged gudev from systemd 219, 
would it
be possible to bump the current release to 220, so that gudev can 
be
packaged without renaming the tarball and doing ugly version 
numbers?
Monotonously increasing version numbers and all.. (Yes, there are
epochs in Debian, and I'm sure RPM has these too, but they 
might not
be available everywhere and are generally frowned upon)
   
   While you are at it, why not bump it to 225 or something (just to
   guarantee that the last systemd release with gudev has a lower 
   version
   number than gudev at that time, so people can switch over whenever
   they want without having to worry about going backwards).
  
  I intend to apply patches to systemd-git until we finally removed it
  there. Given that we had 0 patches so far this year, it'll probably
  stay that way. Hence, there's no hurry in replacing gudev from 
  systemd
  with libgudev. It'd be enough to just drop the systemd sub-package 
  and
  provide a new libgudev package, even if that might not forcefully
  update the package.
  
  However, I see no reason not to bump it, so I'll gladly follow the
  packager's demands:
  
  https://github.com/systemd
  -devs/libgudev/commit/f6203336e5b1ccf896acc506b54ec895fdae98b4
  
  @Bastien: At your convenience, can you cherry-pick this and do 
  another
  release? Should have done this right away, sorry!
 
 Could you file this in our new Bugzilla? Otherwise, I end up losing
 track of it...

Hi Bastien,

do you have any plans for the package in Fedora?

Zbyszek
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Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Separating gudev from systemd

2015-05-29 Thread Michael Biebl
2015-05-19 17:06 GMT+02:00 David Herrmann dh.herrm...@gmail.com:
 Hi

 We're about to remove gudev from the systemd repository, as it is in
 no way related to the systemd code-base, nor used by the systemd
 project. To preserve backwards compatibility, gudev was extracted into
 a separate repository and is now managed on gnome.org:

 Homepage: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/libgudev
 Bugtracker: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi?product=libgudev
 Releases: http://download.gnome.org/sources/libgudev/
 Repository: http://git.gnome.org/browse/libgudev/

 ArchLinux: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/li/libgudev/PKGBUILD
 Others: TBD
FYI

Ubuntu/Debian:
https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/pkg-systemd/systemd.git/commit/?h=experimentalid=ff3e6f6fc82adeeb5341b3bbd9824b2591965af6
https://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/libgudev.git/commit/?id=c48853e54064485c8c1d4904139e6050f3f6462e


Thanks for splitting off gudev. It makes bootstrapping systemd on new
architectures quite a bit simpler.

Cheers,
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Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Separating gudev from systemd

2015-05-27 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Wed, 2015-05-20 at 12:01 +0200, David Herrmann wrote:
 Hi
 
 On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:
  On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Martin Pitt 
  martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote:
   Hey David,
   
   David Herrmann [2015-05-19 17:06 +0200]:
We're about to remove gudev from the systemd repository, as it 
is in
no way related to the systemd code-base, nor used by the 
systemd
project.
   
   This makes sense indeed. gudev used to be a standalone project 
   before
   it was merged into udev, so the circle is complete now :-)
   
   For those of us who already packaged gudev from systemd 219, 
   would it
   be possible to bump the current release to 220, so that gudev can 
   be
   packaged without renaming the tarball and doing ugly version 
   numbers?
   Monotonously increasing version numbers and all.. (Yes, there are
   epochs in Debian, and I'm sure RPM has these too, but they 
   might not
   be available everywhere and are generally frowned upon)
  
  While you are at it, why not bump it to 225 or something (just to
  guarantee that the last systemd release with gudev has a lower 
  version
  number than gudev at that time, so people can switch over whenever
  they want without having to worry about going backwards).
 
 I intend to apply patches to systemd-git until we finally removed it
 there. Given that we had 0 patches so far this year, it'll probably
 stay that way. Hence, there's no hurry in replacing gudev from 
 systemd
 with libgudev. It'd be enough to just drop the systemd sub-package 
 and
 provide a new libgudev package, even if that might not forcefully
 update the package.
 
 However, I see no reason not to bump it, so I'll gladly follow the
 packager's demands:
 
 https://github.com/systemd
 -devs/libgudev/commit/f6203336e5b1ccf896acc506b54ec895fdae98b4
 
 @Bastien: At your convenience, can you cherry-pick this and do 
 another
 release? Should have done this right away, sorry!

Could you file this in our new Bugzilla? Otherwise, I end up losing
track of it...
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Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Separating gudev from systemd

2015-05-20 Thread Tom Gundersen
On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hey David,

 David Herrmann [2015-05-19 17:06 +0200]:
 We're about to remove gudev from the systemd repository, as it is in
 no way related to the systemd code-base, nor used by the systemd
 project.

 This makes sense indeed. gudev used to be a standalone project before
 it was merged into udev, so the circle is complete now :-)

 For those of us who already packaged gudev from systemd 219, would it
 be possible to bump the current release to 220, so that gudev can be
 packaged without renaming the tarball and doing ugly version numbers?
 Monotonously increasing version numbers and all.. (Yes, there are
 epochs in Debian, and I'm sure RPM has these too, but they might not
 be available everywhere and are generally frowned upon)

While you are at it, why not bump it to 225 or something (just to
guarantee that the last systemd release with gudev has a lower version
number than gudev at that time, so people can switch over whenever
they want without having to worry about going backwards).

Cheers,

Tom
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Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Separating gudev from systemd

2015-05-20 Thread Martin Pitt
Hey David,

David Herrmann [2015-05-19 17:06 +0200]:
 We're about to remove gudev from the systemd repository, as it is in
 no way related to the systemd code-base, nor used by the systemd
 project.

This makes sense indeed. gudev used to be a standalone project before
it was merged into udev, so the circle is complete now :-)

For those of us who already packaged gudev from systemd 219, would it
be possible to bump the current release to 220, so that gudev can be
packaged without renaming the tarball and doing ugly version numbers?
Monotonously increasing version numbers and all.. (Yes, there are
epochs in Debian, and I'm sure RPM has these too, but they might not
be available everywhere and are generally frowned upon)

Thanks,

Martin

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Re: [systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Separating gudev from systemd

2015-05-20 Thread David Herrmann
Hi

On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:46 AM, Tom Gundersen t...@jklm.no wrote:
 On Wed, May 20, 2015 at 8:24 AM, Martin Pitt martin.p...@ubuntu.com wrote:
 Hey David,

 David Herrmann [2015-05-19 17:06 +0200]:
 We're about to remove gudev from the systemd repository, as it is in
 no way related to the systemd code-base, nor used by the systemd
 project.

 This makes sense indeed. gudev used to be a standalone project before
 it was merged into udev, so the circle is complete now :-)

 For those of us who already packaged gudev from systemd 219, would it
 be possible to bump the current release to 220, so that gudev can be
 packaged without renaming the tarball and doing ugly version numbers?
 Monotonously increasing version numbers and all.. (Yes, there are
 epochs in Debian, and I'm sure RPM has these too, but they might not
 be available everywhere and are generally frowned upon)

 While you are at it, why not bump it to 225 or something (just to
 guarantee that the last systemd release with gudev has a lower version
 number than gudev at that time, so people can switch over whenever
 they want without having to worry about going backwards).

I intend to apply patches to systemd-git until we finally removed it
there. Given that we had 0 patches so far this year, it'll probably
stay that way. Hence, there's no hurry in replacing gudev from systemd
with libgudev. It'd be enough to just drop the systemd sub-package and
provide a new libgudev package, even if that might not forcefully
update the package.

However, I see no reason not to bump it, so I'll gladly follow the
packager's demands:

https://github.com/systemd-devs/libgudev/commit/f6203336e5b1ccf896acc506b54ec895fdae98b4

@Bastien: At your convenience, can you cherry-pick this and do another
release? Should have done this right away, sorry!

Thanks
David
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[systemd-devel] [ANNOUNCE] Separating gudev from systemd

2015-05-19 Thread David Herrmann
Hi

We're about to remove gudev from the systemd repository, as it is in
no way related to the systemd code-base, nor used by the systemd
project. To preserve backwards compatibility, gudev was extracted into
a separate repository and is now managed on gnome.org:

Homepage: https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/libgudev
Bugtracker: http://bugzilla.gnome.org/browse.cgi?product=libgudev
Releases: http://download.gnome.org/sources/libgudev/
Repository: http://git.gnome.org/browse/libgudev/

ArchLinux: https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/li/libgudev/PKGBUILD
Others: TBD

The new libgudev project is binary-compatible to gudev as provided by
systemd-219. Distributions are encouraged to pass --disable-gudev to
systemd and provide gudev via the libgudev project. We haven't decided
at which point gudev will be dropped from the systemd repository, but
chances are systemd-221 will not include it, anymore.

If there are any issues, please let me know.

Thanks
David
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