Re: [systemd-devel] Can't make local user.conf work

[Kok, Auke-jan H]

On Mon, Mar 7, 2016 at 7:31 AM, G D'Arezzo  wrote:
> On 29 February 2016 at 19:05, Kok, Auke-jan H  
> wrote:
>> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:26 PM, G D'Arezzo  wrote:
>>> "You probably want to use [Service] instead."
>>>
>>> Thanks for the suggestion, Auke.  Unfortunately, Service and
>>> DefaultEnvironment don't go together:
>>>
>>> [/home/temp/.config/systemd/user/test.service.d/user.conf:2] Unknown
>>> lvalue 'DefaultEnvironment' in section 'Service'
>>
>> I just reread the man page for that. DefaultEnvironment is valid only
>> for user.conf, not any conf.d* file associated with a specific unit
>> (obviously, since those are not variants of "user.conf", but instead
>> are variants of unit files).
>>
>> The [Manager] section is only valid in:
>>
>>/etc/systemd/user.conf, /etc/systemd/user.conf.d/*.conf,
>> /run/systemd/user.conf.d/*.conf,
>>/usr/lib/systemd/user.conf.d/*.conf
>>
>> The manual page systemd-user.conf(5) does not mention at all being
>> able to use ~/.config/systemd/. This seems like a shortcoming to me,
>> though.
>>
>> Auke
>
>
> Is this a feature which never happened or should it work?

I'm fairly sure it just never happened.

Auke
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Re: [systemd-devel] Can't make local user.conf work

[G D'Arezzo]

On 29 February 2016 at 19:05, Kok, Auke-jan H  wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:26 PM, G D'Arezzo  wrote:
>> "You probably want to use [Service] instead."
>>
>> Thanks for the suggestion, Auke.  Unfortunately, Service and
>> DefaultEnvironment don't go together:
>>
>> [/home/temp/.config/systemd/user/test.service.d/user.conf:2] Unknown
>> lvalue 'DefaultEnvironment' in section 'Service'
>
> I just reread the man page for that. DefaultEnvironment is valid only
> for user.conf, not any conf.d* file associated with a specific unit
> (obviously, since those are not variants of "user.conf", but instead
> are variants of unit files).
>
> The [Manager] section is only valid in:
>
>/etc/systemd/user.conf, /etc/systemd/user.conf.d/*.conf,
> /run/systemd/user.conf.d/*.conf,
>/usr/lib/systemd/user.conf.d/*.conf
>
> The manual page systemd-user.conf(5) does not mention at all being
> able to use ~/.config/systemd/. This seems like a shortcoming to me,
> though.
>
> Auke


Is this a feature which never happened or should it work?
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Re: [systemd-devel] Can't make local user.conf work

[Kok, Auke-jan H]

On Sun, Feb 28, 2016 at 8:26 PM, G D'Arezzo  wrote:
> "You probably want to use [Service] instead."
>
> Thanks for the suggestion, Auke.  Unfortunately, Service and
> DefaultEnvironment don't go together:
>
> [/home/temp/.config/systemd/user/test.service.d/user.conf:2] Unknown
> lvalue 'DefaultEnvironment' in section 'Service'
I just reread the man page for that. DefaultEnvironment is valid only
for user.conf, not any conf.d* file associated with a specific unit
(obviously, since those are not variants of "user.conf", but instead
are variants of unit files).

The [Manager] section is only valid in:

   /etc/systemd/user.conf, /etc/systemd/user.conf.d/*.conf,
/run/systemd/user.conf.d/*.conf,
   /usr/lib/systemd/user.conf.d/*.conf

The manual page systemd-user.conf(5) does not mention at all being
able to use ~/.config/systemd/. This seems like a shortcoming to me,
though.

Auke
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Re: [systemd-devel] Can't make local user.conf work

[Kok, Auke-jan H]

On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 7:06 PM, Guido D'Arezzo  wrote:
> Hello, I’m trying to run user systemd services with DefaultEnvironment set
> in a user.conf under $HOME/.config/systemd/ but it isn't being read.
> The only .conf files I have seen being read are /etc/systemd/user.conf and
> /etc/systemd/user.conf.d/*.conf
>
> It should work, according to this page (under Environment Variables):
> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/User
>
> and these words (though I can't find many other references to its use):
>
> "You can use DefaultEnvironment in user.conf, and place that either in
> /etc/systemd/user.conf, or in ~/.config/systemd/user.conf."
>
> 
> https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-March/017514.html
>
>
> This doesn't mention user.conf but does it mean any .conf files in or under
> there should be read?

no, this path contains config files with a special format only, and
arbitrary files in here are not read. Consider this the user
equivalent of /etc/systemd/

> "Additionally, --user also adds the home-directory of the user as
> source: ~/.config/systemd/user/"
>
> 
> https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-August/022745.html
>
> but the suggestion later on
>
> "to create a file in:
>   ~/.config/systemd/user/your_service.conf.d/your_drop_in_file.conf"
>
> and in man systemd.unit
>
> Along with a unit file foo.service, a directory
>foo.service.d/ may exist. All files with the suffix ".conf"
>from this directory will be parsed after the file itself is
>parsed. This is useful to alter or add configuration settings
>to a unit, without having to modify their unit files. Make
>sure that the file that is included has the appropriate
>section headers before any directive.
>
> fails with systemctl complaining about the .conf file heading:
> Unknown section 'Manager'

You probably want to use [Service] instead.

Auke
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[systemd-devel] Can't make local user.conf work

[Guido D'Arezzo]

Hello, I’m trying to run user systemd services with DefaultEnvironment set
in a user.conf under $HOME/.config/systemd/ but it isn't being read.
The only .conf files I have seen being read are /etc/systemd/user.conf and
/etc/systemd/user.conf.d/*.conf

It should work, according to this page (under Environment Variables):
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd/User

and these words (though I can't find many other references to its use):

"You can use DefaultEnvironment in user.conf, and place that either in
/etc/systemd/user.conf, or in ~/.config/systemd/user.conf."


https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-March/017514.html


This doesn't mention user.conf but does it mean any .conf files in or under
there should be read?

"Additionally, --user also adds the home-directory of the user as
source: ~/.config/systemd/user/"


https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2014-August/022745.html

but the suggestion later on

"to create a file in:
  ~/.config/systemd/user/your_service.conf.d/your_drop_in_file.conf"

and in man systemd.unit

Along with a unit file foo.service, a directory
   foo.service.d/ may exist. All files with the suffix ".conf"
   from this directory will be parsed after the file itself is
   parsed. This is useful to alter or add configuration settings
   to a unit, without having to modify their unit files. Make
   sure that the file that is included has the appropriate
   section headers before any directive.

fails with systemctl complaining about the .conf file heading:
Unknown section 'Manager'

I'm a bit confused because man systemd.unit talks about "configuration
files" when referring to unit files rather than (or as well as) .conf files.
For the user mode load paths, the man page has
/etc/systemd/user   | Local configuration
but again, any .conf files in that directory are ignored.

This is systemd 228 on Arch Linux
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