Re: [systemd-devel] systemd autofs in RH 7

2020-04-21 Thread Silvio Knizek
Am Dienstag, den 21.04.2020, 14:33 + schrieb Wieschke, Thomas:
> Hi,
> thanks fort he quick response. After having a first look at the man pages, I 
> mentioned that I would have a choice between
> a fstab based solution or a unit file based one, right?
> Because I have a mix of ~ 10 different Mounts (CIFS, NFS) /workdir/in, 
> /workdir/out, /workdir/bla, /workdir/send ...
> I have a tendency to fstab because it seems better manageable or what would 
> you suggest?
>
> BR
> Thomas
Hi Thomas,

using the fstab is the preferred interface.

BR
Silvio

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Re: [systemd-devel] systemd autofs in RH 7

2020-04-21 Thread Wieschke, Thomas

Hi,
thanks fort he quick response. After having a first look at the man pages, I 
mentioned that I would have a choice between
a fstab based solution or a unit file based one, right?
Because I have a mix of ~ 10 different Mounts (CIFS, NFS) /workdir/in, 
/workdir/out, /workdir/bla, /workdir/send ...
I have a tendency to fstab because it seems better manageable or what would you 
suggest?

BR
Thomas


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Betreff: Re: [systemd-devel] systemd autofs in RH 7

Am Dienstag, den 21.04.2020, 13:26 + schrieb Wieschke, Thomas:
> Hi,
> I hope someone can help with the following case.
>
> I'm writing on a RH 7 system to an automounted FS and get an disruption 
> because systemd (??) is,
> besides working in this directory, obviously trying an umount in the 
> background.
> The umount doesn't work because the FS is in use (returned busy), but the 
> start/stop of autofs is
> nevertheless done and leads to a disruption:
>
> Apr 21 12:02:18 server1 systemd[1]: Stopping Automounts filesystems on 
> demand...
> -- Subject: Unit autofs.service has begun shutting down
> -- Defined-By: systemd
> -- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
> --
> -- Unit autofs.service has begun shutting down.
> Apr 21 12:02:19 server1 automount[22213]: umount_autofs_indirect: ask umount 
> returned busy /vsaabrmount
> Apr 21 12:02:20 server1 systemd[1]: Stopped Automounts filesystems on demand.
> -- Subject: Unit autofs.service has finished shutting down
> -- Defined-By: systemd
> -- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
> --
> -- Unit autofs.service has finished shutting down.
> Apr 21 12:02:20 server1 systemd[1]: Starting Automounts filesystems on 
> demand...
> -- Subject: Unit autofs.service has begun start-up
> -- Defined-By: systemd
> -- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
> --
> -- Unit autofs.service has begun starting up.
> Apr 21 12:02:20 server1 systemd[1]: Started Automounts filesystems on demand.
> -- Subject: Unit autofs.service has finished start-up
> -- Defined-By: systemd
> -- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
> --
> -- Unit autofs.service has finished starting up.
> --
> -- The start-up result is done.
>
> Finally I tried to prevent any umount by changing in /etc/sysconfig/autofs 
> #OPTIONS="" to OPTIONS="-timeout=0"
>
> And I tried to add in /etc/auto.master at end of line --timeout=0 (/workdir   
>  /etc/auto.workdir --timeout=0)
>
> But besides this values there is an automatic restart every 30min
>
> Apr 21 13:34:41 server1 systemd: Stopping Automounts filesystems on demand...
> Apr 21 13:34:42 server1 systemd: Starting Automounts filesystems on demand...
> Apr 21 13:34:42 server1 systemd: Started Automounts filesystems on demand.
> Apr 21 14:04:42 server1 systemd: Stopping Automounts filesystems on demand...
> Apr 21 14:04:42 server1 systemd: Stopped Automounts filesystems on demand.
> Apr 21 14:04:42 server1 systemd: Starting Automounts filesystems on demand...
> Apr 21 14:04:42 server1 systemd: Started Automounts filesystems on demand.
> Apr 21 14:34:42 server1 systemd: Stopping Automounts filesystems on demand...
> Apr 21 14:34:42 server1 automount[11019]: umount_autofs_indirect: ask umount 
> returned busy /vsaabrmount
> Apr 21 14:34:44 server1 systemd: Stopped Automounts filesystems on demand.
> Apr 21 14:34:44 server1 systemd: Starting Automounts filesystems on demand...
> Apr 21 14:34:44 server1 systemd: Started Automounts filesystems on demand.
>
> Switching back to RH 6 doesn't show this problem.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Best regards
> Thomas

Hi Thomas,

don't use autofs, but systemd.automount for this. It does exactly what
you want, but in the context of systemd. See man:systemd.automount for
more information.

BR
Silvio

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Re: [systemd-devel] systemd autofs in RH 7

2020-04-21 Thread Ignaz Forster
Am 21.04.20 um 15:26 Uhr schrieb Wieschke, Thomas:
> I'm writing on a RH 7 system to an automounted FS and get an disruption 
> because systemd (??) is,
> besides working in this directory, obviously trying an umount in the 
> background.
> The umount doesn't work because the FS is in use (returned busy), but the 
> start/stop of autofs is
> nevertheless done and leads to a disruption:

This sound like a bug in util-linux which was fixed upstream recently:
https://github.com/karelzak/util-linux/commit/7065cc0e5312cafc5ae3e4c342f78f264300fb5f

Cheers,
Ignaz
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Re: [systemd-devel] systemd autofs in RH 7

2020-04-21 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Di, 21.04.20 13:26, Wieschke, Thomas (thomas.wiesc...@noventi.de) wrote:

>
> Hi,
> I hope someone can help with the following case.
>
> I'm writing on a RH 7 system to an automounted FS and get an disruption 
> because systemd (??) is,
> besides working in this directory, obviously trying an umount in the 
> background.
> The umount doesn't work because the FS is in use (returned busy), but the 
> start/stop of autofs is
> nevertheless done and leads to a disruption:

Something appears to stop and restart your autofs service every half
an our. try to figure out why.

>
> Apr 21 12:02:18 server1 systemd[1]: Stopping Automounts filesystems on 
> demand...
> -- Subject: Unit autofs.service has begun shutting down
> -- Defined-By: systemd
> -- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
> --
> -- Unit autofs.service has begun shutting down.
> Apr 21 12:02:19 server1 automount[22213]: umount_autofs_indirect:
> ask umount returned busy /vsaabrmount

This is a message from your automount service, not from systemd.

Lennart

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Re: [systemd-devel] systemd autofs in RH 7

2020-04-21 Thread Silvio Knizek
Am Dienstag, den 21.04.2020, 13:26 + schrieb Wieschke, Thomas:
> Hi,
> I hope someone can help with the following case.
>
> I'm writing on a RH 7 system to an automounted FS and get an disruption 
> because systemd (??) is,
> besides working in this directory, obviously trying an umount in the 
> background.
> The umount doesn't work because the FS is in use (returned busy), but the 
> start/stop of autofs is
> nevertheless done and leads to a disruption:
>
> Apr 21 12:02:18 server1 systemd[1]: Stopping Automounts filesystems on 
> demand...
> -- Subject: Unit autofs.service has begun shutting down
> -- Defined-By: systemd
> -- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
> --
> -- Unit autofs.service has begun shutting down.
> Apr 21 12:02:19 server1 automount[22213]: umount_autofs_indirect: ask umount 
> returned busy /vsaabrmount
> Apr 21 12:02:20 server1 systemd[1]: Stopped Automounts filesystems on demand.
> -- Subject: Unit autofs.service has finished shutting down
> -- Defined-By: systemd
> -- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
> --
> -- Unit autofs.service has finished shutting down.
> Apr 21 12:02:20 server1 systemd[1]: Starting Automounts filesystems on 
> demand...
> -- Subject: Unit autofs.service has begun start-up
> -- Defined-By: systemd
> -- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
> --
> -- Unit autofs.service has begun starting up.
> Apr 21 12:02:20 server1 systemd[1]: Started Automounts filesystems on demand.
> -- Subject: Unit autofs.service has finished start-up
> -- Defined-By: systemd
> -- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
> --
> -- Unit autofs.service has finished starting up.
> --
> -- The start-up result is done.
>
> Finally I tried to prevent any umount by changing in /etc/sysconfig/autofs 
> #OPTIONS="" to OPTIONS="-timeout=0"
>
> And I tried to add in /etc/auto.master at end of line --timeout=0 (/workdir   
>  /etc/auto.workdir --timeout=0)
>
> But besides this values there is an automatic restart every 30min
>
> Apr 21 13:34:41 server1 systemd: Stopping Automounts filesystems on demand...
> Apr 21 13:34:42 server1 systemd: Starting Automounts filesystems on demand...
> Apr 21 13:34:42 server1 systemd: Started Automounts filesystems on demand.
> Apr 21 14:04:42 server1 systemd: Stopping Automounts filesystems on demand...
> Apr 21 14:04:42 server1 systemd: Stopped Automounts filesystems on demand.
> Apr 21 14:04:42 server1 systemd: Starting Automounts filesystems on demand...
> Apr 21 14:04:42 server1 systemd: Started Automounts filesystems on demand.
> Apr 21 14:34:42 server1 systemd: Stopping Automounts filesystems on demand...
> Apr 21 14:34:42 server1 automount[11019]: umount_autofs_indirect: ask umount 
> returned busy /vsaabrmount
> Apr 21 14:34:44 server1 systemd: Stopped Automounts filesystems on demand.
> Apr 21 14:34:44 server1 systemd: Starting Automounts filesystems on demand...
> Apr 21 14:34:44 server1 systemd: Started Automounts filesystems on demand.
>
> Switching back to RH 6 doesn't show this problem.
>
> Any suggestions?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Best regards
> Thomas

Hi Thomas,

don't use autofs, but systemd.automount for this. It does exactly what
you want, but in the context of systemd. See man:systemd.automount for
more information.

BR
Silvio

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[systemd-devel] systemd autofs in RH 7

2020-04-21 Thread Wieschke, Thomas

Hi,
I hope someone can help with the following case.

I'm writing on a RH 7 system to an automounted FS and get an disruption because 
systemd (??) is,
besides working in this directory, obviously trying an umount in the background.
The umount doesn't work because the FS is in use (returned busy), but the 
start/stop of autofs is
nevertheless done and leads to a disruption:

Apr 21 12:02:18 server1 systemd[1]: Stopping Automounts filesystems on demand...
-- Subject: Unit autofs.service has begun shutting down
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- Unit autofs.service has begun shutting down.
Apr 21 12:02:19 server1 automount[22213]: umount_autofs_indirect: ask umount 
returned busy /vsaabrmount
Apr 21 12:02:20 server1 systemd[1]: Stopped Automounts filesystems on demand.
-- Subject: Unit autofs.service has finished shutting down
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- Unit autofs.service has finished shutting down.
Apr 21 12:02:20 server1 systemd[1]: Starting Automounts filesystems on demand...
-- Subject: Unit autofs.service has begun start-up
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- Unit autofs.service has begun starting up.
Apr 21 12:02:20 server1 systemd[1]: Started Automounts filesystems on demand.
-- Subject: Unit autofs.service has finished start-up
-- Defined-By: systemd
-- Support: http://lists.freedesktop.org/mailman/listinfo/systemd-devel
--
-- Unit autofs.service has finished starting up.
--
-- The start-up result is done.

Finally I tried to prevent any umount by changing in /etc/sysconfig/autofs 
#OPTIONS="" to OPTIONS="-timeout=0"

And I tried to add in /etc/auto.master at end of line --timeout=0 (/workdir
/etc/auto.workdir --timeout=0)

But besides this values there is an automatic restart every 30min

Apr 21 13:34:41 server1 systemd: Stopping Automounts filesystems on demand...
Apr 21 13:34:42 server1 systemd: Starting Automounts filesystems on demand...
Apr 21 13:34:42 server1 systemd: Started Automounts filesystems on demand.
Apr 21 14:04:42 server1 systemd: Stopping Automounts filesystems on demand...
Apr 21 14:04:42 server1 systemd: Stopped Automounts filesystems on demand.
Apr 21 14:04:42 server1 systemd: Starting Automounts filesystems on demand...
Apr 21 14:04:42 server1 systemd: Started Automounts filesystems on demand.
Apr 21 14:34:42 server1 systemd: Stopping Automounts filesystems on demand...
Apr 21 14:34:42 server1 automount[11019]: umount_autofs_indirect: ask umount 
returned busy /vsaabrmount
Apr 21 14:34:44 server1 systemd: Stopped Automounts filesystems on demand.
Apr 21 14:34:44 server1 systemd: Starting Automounts filesystems on demand...
Apr 21 14:34:44 server1 systemd: Started Automounts filesystems on demand.

Switching back to RH 6 doesn't show this problem.

Any suggestions?

Thanks in advance

Best regards
Thomas

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