Re: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

2003-08-29 Thread B. Kunnath

Could the dots also be connected another way? Using results drawn from several Swedish studies, it seems that for some reason, Kenyan (and possibly other African athletes) seem to have less muscle breakdown and hence faster recoveries with repeated stress. Couldn't this be a reason why methods that might have worked for him in Kenya ( without the use of steriods) might not be possible here?





Dr. Rosa's system worked great for his Kenyan athletes. The training 
program has been seen on the internet before: Long progression run 
ending at or below marathon pace, up to 25x1:00/1:00, 13 mile 
straight uphill run finishing very very hard, long repeats at 
10k-10mile race pace, all for weeks on end. To me everything looks 
pretty normal except for the added 13 mile straight uphill workout. 
One week of the above won't kill anyone, but it's the "weeks on end" 
part that gets me. So FILA/Rosa start up a US program using the 
above and the athletes procede to get injured or slide down the 
slippery slope of chronic fatigue. So, the question is asked "Why?". 
My answer is hGH or a synthetic steroid, something that enhances 
protein synthesis so recovery is quickened so that Rosa's Kenyan 
athletes can handle such intense workloads week after week after 
week. I wouldn't have drawn my conclusion if it weren't for Rosa's 
shady past. I simply connected the dots. 
 
Alan 

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Re: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

2003-08-29 Thread Reddragon3147
ART, 
That was a foolish post, don't you think? 
Key words: anyone, can do, near all out, ...  Foolish thoughts.


Hell, anyone can do 10x200 near all 
out with 200 meter recoveries at the end of an easy run everyday but I 
wouldn't call that a very hard workout. Sprint work isn't made to be 
tiresome. So in his ONE week we have a long run, a hard tempo-type run, 

 


Re: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

2003-08-29 Thread koala
It's no problem for those math majors who can figure
out how to give 200% every time they set their foot
on the track.

I tried giving 150% once, and produced a divide-by-zero error.

My theory is, for anybody whose coach says they gave a 200%
effort today!, in reality they gave 85%, and they'd never before
given more than 60%, which is all the coach thought they had in
them.

Idiot football coaches trying to coach track.

RT


On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 23:39:54 EDT, you wrote:

ART, 
That was a foolish post, don't you think? 
Key words: anyone, can do, near all out, ...  Foolish thoughts.


Hell, anyone can do 10x200 near all 
out with 200 meter recoveries at the end of an easy run everyday but I 
wouldn't call that a very hard workout. Sprint work isn't made to be 
tiresome. So in his ONE week we have a long run, a hard tempo-type run, 

 




t-and-f: Advantage in 5000? Predicto M/200

2003-08-29 Thread Mike Prizy
Who has the advantage in the WC 5000 final? El G moving up from 1500 or Kenny B moving 
down from
10,000?

What will the last mile and the last 200 be run in?



Re: t-and-f: Advantage in 5000? Predicto M/200

2003-08-29 Thread Runner Triathlete News
According to all the discussions I've read here, the last 200 has to be run
in 24.5.  Go ahead and award my prize to me.

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- Original Message -
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Subject: t-and-f: Advantage in 5000? Predicto M/200


 Who has the advantage in the WC 5000 final? El G moving up from 1500 or
Kenny B moving down from
 10,000?

 What will the last mile and the last 200 be run in?




Re: t-and-f: 12:57 last 5000

2003-08-29 Thread John Schiefer
This reminds me of a certain track coach that will
remain unnamed (AND IT WASN'T anyone at Arkansas).

Here's the conversation:

Schiefer:  Coach, you know, I, for some reason, just
can't seem to stay with the top guys for 10,000m.

Coach's response:  Well, I think you just need to try
harder!

How awesome is that.  A college coach telling someone
that they just need to try harder.

Schiefer
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 It's no problem for those math majors who can figure
 out how to give 200% every time they set their
 foot
 on the track.
 
 I tried giving 150% once, and produced a
 divide-by-zero error.
 
 My theory is, for anybody whose coach says they
 gave a 200%
 effort today!, in reality they gave 85%, and they'd
 never before
 given more than 60%, which is all the coach thought
 they had in
 them.
 
 Idiot football coaches trying to coach track.
 
 RT
 
 
 On Thu, 28 Aug 2003 23:39:54 EDT, you wrote:
 
 ART, 
 That was a foolish post, don't you think? 
 Key words: anyone, can do, near all out, ... 
 Foolish thoughts.
 
 
 Hell, anyone can do 10x200 near all 
 out with 200 meter recoveries at the end of an easy
 run everyday but I 
 wouldn't call that a very hard workout. Sprint work
 isn't made to be 
 tiresome. So in his ONE week we have a long run, a
 hard tempo-type run, 
 
  
 
 


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t-and-f: Worlds on TV - non PC

2003-08-29 Thread edndana
OK, I have resisted commenting on the quality of the announcing  - there has
been some good and some bad and there's really no point in castigating
people for inaccuracies.

But. . . close to 10:00 of coverage of the two wheelchair races and less
than 1:00 of the 50 km race walk?  Or did I miss the additional 50 km race
walk coverage?  The 50 km walk had a world best along with the fastest ever
time for second place and possibly for some of the other places as well.

- Ed Parrot




t-and-f: Edwin Moses Comeback?!!

2003-08-29 Thread Seb Geb Meb Webb
On the BBC Radio Five broadcast from Paris tonight,
commentator Sebastian Coe reported, apparently
seriously, that Edwin Moses is contemplating a
comeback in the 400 Hurdles in anticipation of next
year's Olympics.  Coe said he had just met with Moses,
and that Edwin is in remarkably good shape.  A liitle
hard to believe, but that's what Coe reported.

SGMW

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Re: t-and-f: Edwin Moses Comeback?!!

2003-08-29 Thread MOrfuss
Seeing Moses in the blocks again is a wonderful thought, and he could be in terrific 
shape; but anyone who's ever sprinted knows that, with age, speed is the first thing a 
runner loses--and loses fast--even if he or she never stopped training for speed. 




Re: t-and-f: Edwin Moses Comeback?!!

2003-08-29 Thread Dan Kaplan
What is he now, 45 or 50?  Maybe coming back in the Masters ranks...

Dan

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