RE: t-and-f: My third grader's math
LOL -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Gerweck Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:43 PM To: 'Track List' Subject: Re: t-and-f: My third grader's math on 11/12/03 6:25 PM, malmo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've always slept well at night. Nothing a little modafinil won't cure. -- Jim Gerweck Running Times
Re: t-and-f: My third grader's math
on 11/12/03 6:25 PM, malmo at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > I've always slept well at night. Nothing a little modafinil won't cure. -- Jim Gerweck Running Times
RE: t-and-f: My third grader's math
That's funny, I always thought the '~' stood for approximately and that 1% error fell within a reasonable approximate. I beg forgiveness from the board for rounding the molecular weight of lactate from 89 to 90 for convenience of my feable mind. matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Michael Blank Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:58 PM To: t-and-f-digest Cc: malmo Subject: RE: t-and-f: My third grader's math Malmo wrote: >Wow, that's pretty tough for a nine year old. Would require a little >research on the internet. > >I still haven't found one student of exercise physiology who could tell >me how many milligrams of lactate is 4.0 millimoles/liter. So much for >"advanced science." And Matthew Harber replied: > ~ 360 mg/L > Your search is over, I'll bet you sleep better tonight. Unfortunately, it's ~356 mg/L. The formula weight of 90.08 includes the dissociated proton. But then I might not be considered a student of exercise physiology. Jason ___ Jason Blank Hopkins Marine Station Enloe HS '92, Duke '96, Stanford ??Oceanview Boulevard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pacific Grove, CA 93950 "The United States alone treats health care as a commodity distributed according to the ability to pay, rather than as a social service to be distributed according to medical need." -- The Physicians' Working Group for Single-Payer National Health Insurance ___
RE: t-and-f: My third grader's math
I've always slept well at night. malmo -Original Message- From: Matthew Harber [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 9:21 AM To: 'malmo'; 'Mike Prizy'; 'Track List' Subject: RE: t-and-f: My third grader's math ~ 360 mg/L Your search is over, I'll bet you sleep better tonight. matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of malmo Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:59 PM To: 'Mike Prizy'; 'Track List' Subject: RE: t-and-f: My third grader's math Wow, that's pretty tough for a nine year old. Would require a little research on the internet. I still haven't found one student of exercise physiology who could tell me how many milligrams of lactate is 4.0 millimoles/liter. So much for "advanced science." I'll bet your kid could? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Prizy Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:21 PM To: Track List Subject: t-and-f: My third grader's math My 9-year-old son asked me to help him with his third-grade math. He is studying decimals. This particular section asked the students to correctly place the decimal in each word problem. Of the 23 possible answers, three were about track and field, one was on auto racing, and no other sports were included. Our sport still has hope in the United States! Part A No. 2 - Linford Christie ran the 100-meter dash in 996 seconds in the 1992 Olympics. No. 3 - In the Same Olympics, Jan Zelezny threw the javelin 294166 feet. No. 4 - Valentina Yegorova ran the marathon in 2 hours, 32 minutes, 41 seconds. She ran a distance of 413 kilometers.
RE: t-and-f: My third grader's math
Malmo wrote: >Wow, that's pretty tough for a nine year old. Would require a little >research on the internet. > >I still haven't found one student of exercise physiology who could tell >me how many milligrams of lactate is 4.0 millimoles/liter. So much for >"advanced science." And Matthew Harber replied: > ~ 360 mg/L > Your search is over, I'll bet you sleep better tonight. Unfortunately, it's ~356 mg/L. The formula weight of 90.08 includes the dissociated proton. But then I might not be considered a student of exercise physiology. Jason ___ Jason Blank Hopkins Marine Station Enloe HS '92, Duke '96, Stanford ??Oceanview Boulevard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pacific Grove, CA 93950 "The United States alone treats health care as a commodity distributed according to the ability to pay, rather than as a social service to be distributed according to medical need." -- The Physicians' Working Group for Single-Payer National Health Insurance ___
t-and-f: Some interesting THG stuff in here
"Some observers speculate that the tipster who sent the anonymous sample may have been the inventor of THG himself. What motive might drive him to do that?" http://espn.go.com/gen/news/2003/1112/1659917.html
Re: t-and-f: My third grader's math
If these questions are for my son's third grade class, I would like to omit No. 3 until after they have their family living lecture in the sixth grade. sprintfinish wrote: > The questions seem a little outdated. A more pertinent test might read as > follows: > > 1. A test is conducted for a previously undetectable designer drug. What > percentage of World Championship competitors will test positive? > > 2. A 40 year old woman runs 1500m in under 4 minutes. How much > tetrahydrogestrinone will accidentally find its way into her urine sample? > > 3. A man wishes to run 100 metres in under 10 seconds. How many litres of > beer should he drink on the previous night? (Answer may also be expressed in > quantity of sexual partners)
t-and-f: B samples positive
Story at track news wire > http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/gen/wire?messageId=24460775
Re: t-and-f: My third grader's math
LOL, thanks this has to be one of the best posts I've seen on this list in years but oh how true! Ed on 11/12/03 11:02 AM, sprintfinish at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The questions seem a little outdated. A more pertinent test might read as > follows: > > 1. A test is conducted for a previously undetectable designer drug. What > percentage of World Championship competitors will test positive? > > 2. A 40 year old woman runs 1500m in under 4 minutes. How much > tetrahydrogestrinone will accidentally find its way into her urine sample? > > 3. A man wishes to run 100 metres in under 10 seconds. How many litres of > beer should he drink on the previous night? (Answer may also be expressed in > quantity of sexual partners) >
t-and-f: Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 12:34:49 -0600
Story at track news wire > http://sports.espn.go.com/sports/gen/wire?messageId=24460775
Re: t-and-f: My third grader's math
The questions seem a little outdated. A more pertinent test might read as follows: 1. A test is conducted for a previously undetectable designer drug. What percentage of World Championship competitors will test positive? 2. A 40 year old woman runs 1500m in under 4 minutes. How much tetrahydrogestrinone will accidentally find its way into her urine sample? 3. A man wishes to run 100 metres in under 10 seconds. How many litres of beer should he drink on the previous night? (Answer may also be expressed in quantity of sexual partners)
Re: t-and-f: My third grader's math
My kids' school district has been using a math curriculum developed by the University of Chicago. Apparently none of the UC nor UCTC people on this list were consulted. Jim Gerweck wrote: > Mike, ya gotta follow the word problem - place the decimal point. 41.3 km > comes up a little more than half a mile short of the requisite distance - > but then, maybe the same folks writing it think the marathon is exactly 26 > miles. > > Jim > > > ...I don't know about that Jim...seems to me that 413 kilos is an awfully > > long marathon2:32...what pace does that work out to for 413 kilometers?? > > > > MF > > > > -Original Message- > > From: Jim Gerweck > > To: Track List > > Sent: 11/12/2003 4:24 AM > > Subject: Re: t-and-f: My third grader's math > > > > on 11/11/03 10:21 PM, Mike Prizy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> No. 4 - Valentina Yegorova ran the marathon in 2 hours, 32 minutes, 41 > >> seconds. She ran a distance > >> of 413 kilometers. > > > > Well, I guess the Russians are known for cutting the course ;-) > > -- > > Jim Gerweck > > Running Times
t-and-f: [Fwd: Marathon World Ranking System]
Original Message Subject: Marathon World Ranking System Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 10:29:07 -0600 From: LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon Chooses Not to Support the Proposed World Marathon Ranking System London, Berlin and Boston Marathons Share Decision CHICAGO (November 12, 2003)?The LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon, along with the London, Berlin, and Boston Marathons, has chosen to not support the new world marathon ranking point system proposed by a major marathon title sponsor last week. The Chicago, London, Berlin, and Boston Marathons believe such a ranking system could raise the profile of the sport, but must be organized and administered by an independent organization rather than an event title sponsor. "We value the importance and critical component of sponsor involvement in the sport of marathoning and we have worked very hard to get to this level through the years," said Carey Pinkowski, executive race director for the LaSalle Bank Chicago Marathon. "Using an independent body is the only way to fairly and systematically implement such a ranking system. Furthermore, this will allow all major marathons to participate without infringing upon title sponsor's commitments." Another challenge to this proposed world ranking system is that the Chicago, London, Berlin, and Boston Marathons were not included in any preliminary planning discussions. Each marathon's race director was asked to make an on-the-spot decision as to their support, involvement, and participation in the system. "It was frustrating for me not to have been involved in the development of this concept or asked to participate in the planning process," added Pinkowski. "If all the race directors were involved in the initial discussions, we could have added more value to the proposed system and perhaps reached a more favorable outcome for the entire sport, which is precisely what this world-class sport deserves." The Chicago, London, Berlin, and Boston Marathons hope with added discussion a collective decision-making process can be developed that will allow all major marathons to participate in such a system. If organized and implemented properly, a system like this would bring the sport together throughout the world and be a welcomed advancement. # # #
Re: t-and-f: My third grader's math
Mike, ya gotta follow the word problem - place the decimal point. 41.3 km comes up a little more than half a mile short of the requisite distance - but then, maybe the same folks writing it think the marathon is exactly 26 miles. Jim > ...I don't know about that Jim...seems to me that 413 kilos is an awfully > long marathon2:32...what pace does that work out to for 413 kilometers?? > > MF > > -Original Message- > From: Jim Gerweck > To: Track List > Sent: 11/12/2003 4:24 AM > Subject: Re: t-and-f: My third grader's math > > on 11/11/03 10:21 PM, Mike Prizy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> No. 4 - Valentina Yegorova ran the marathon in 2 hours, 32 minutes, 41 >> seconds. She ran a distance >> of 413 kilometers. > > Well, I guess the Russians are known for cutting the course ;-) > -- > Jim Gerweck > Running Times
RE: t-and-f: My third grader's math
...I don't know about that Jim...seems to me that 413 kilos is an awfully long marathon2:32...what pace does that work out to for 413 kilometers?? MF -Original Message- From: Jim Gerweck To: Track List Sent: 11/12/2003 4:24 AM Subject: Re: t-and-f: My third grader's math on 11/11/03 10:21 PM, Mike Prizy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > No. 4 - Valentina Yegorova ran the marathon in 2 hours, 32 minutes, 41 > seconds. She ran a distance > of 413 kilometers. Well, I guess the Russians are known for cutting the course ;-) -- Jim Gerweck Running Times
Re: t-and-f: My third grader's math
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RE: t-and-f: My third grader's math
~ 360 mg/L Your search is over, I'll bet you sleep better tonight. matt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of malmo Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:59 PM To: 'Mike Prizy'; 'Track List' Subject: RE: t-and-f: My third grader's math Wow, that's pretty tough for a nine year old. Would require a little research on the internet. I still haven't found one student of exercise physiology who could tell me how many milligrams of lactate is 4.0 millimoles/liter. So much for "advanced science." I'll bet your kid could? malmo -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike Prizy Sent: Tuesday, November 11, 2003 10:21 PM To: Track List Subject: t-and-f: My third grader's math My 9-year-old son asked me to help him with his third-grade math. He is studying decimals. This particular section asked the students to correctly place the decimal in each word problem. Of the 23 possible answers, three were about track and field, one was on auto racing, and no other sports were included. Our sport still has hope in the United States! Part A No. 2 - Linford Christie ran the 100-meter dash in 996 seconds in the 1992 Olympics. No. 3 - In the Same Olympics, Jan Zelezny threw the javelin 294166 feet. No. 4 - Valentina Yegorova ran the marathon in 2 hours, 32 minutes, 41 seconds. She ran a distance of 413 kilometers.
Re: t-and-f: My third grader's math
on 11/11/03 10:21 PM, Mike Prizy at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > No. 4 - Valentina Yegorova ran the marathon in 2 hours, 32 minutes, 41 > seconds. She ran a distance > of 413 kilometers. Well, I guess the Russians are known for cutting the course ;-) -- Jim Gerweck Running Times
Re: t-and-f: Chambers could get brief ban
> The IAAF, however, have a rule allowing reduced sanctions for > athletes offering "substantial assistance" in a doping inquiry. Isn't that a bit hypocritical, considering how the IAAF responded to Charlie Francis' re-entry into the sport this year? Or do coaches not get the same incentives for coming clean? I suppose they could argue Francis' Dubin testimonial pre-dates the above rule (does it?), but that would be equally hypocritical, seeing as how they are pushing for re-testing of negative samples and retroactive bans. Dan = http://AbleDesign.com - Web Design & Custom Programming http://Run-Down.com - 10,000 Running Links, Fantasy T&F @o Dan Kaplan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] <|\/ <^- ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) _/ \ \/\ (503)370-9969 phone/fax / / __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree
Re: t-and-f: My third grader's math
"Our sport still has hope in the United States!" I wish I shared your hope... http://run-down.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1432 Dan --- Mike Prizy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > My 9-year-old son asked me to help him with his third-grade math. He is > studying decimals. This > particular section asked the students to correctly place the decimal in > each word problem. Of the 23 > possible answers, three were about track and field, one was on auto > racing, and no other sports were > included. > > Our sport still has hope in the United States! > > Part A > > No. 2 - Linford Christie ran the 100-meter dash in 996 seconds in the > 1992 Olympics. > > No. 3 - In the Same Olympics, Jan Zelezny threw the javelin 294166 feet. > > No. 4 - Valentina Yegorova ran the marathon in 2 hours, 32 minutes, 41 > seconds. She ran a distance > of 413 kilometers. > = http://AbleDesign.com - Web Design & Custom Programming http://Run-Down.com - 10,000 Running Links, Fantasy T&F @o Dan Kaplan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] <|\/ <^- ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) _/ \ \/\ (503)370-9969 phone/fax / / __ Do you Yahoo!? Protect your identity with Yahoo! Mail AddressGuard http://antispam.yahoo.com/whatsnewfree
t-and-f: Chambers could get brief ban
The Electronic Telegraph Wednesday 12 November 2003 Scott Purchase Dwain Chambers could reduce any ban imposed for his positive drugs test by exposing others supplying and using THG, it was revealed last night. The International Association of Athletics Federations suggested Chambers could get a two-year ban cut to as little as one year in exchange for blowing the whistle. Five athletes under investigation for use of tetrahydrogestrinone face minimum two-year suspensions. The IAAF, however, have a rule allowing reduced sanctions for athletes offering "substantial assistance" in a doping inquiry. "However, it is emphasised that only truly exceptional circumstances will justify any reduction," the rule states. Istvan Gyulai, the IAAF general secretary, said: "This rule exists. I cannot exclude it as an option. But let's see why this doping existed and what exactly happened." Gyulai said 18 athletes in the past four years had applied for reinstatement or shortened bans on grounds of "exceptional circumstances", with all but two cases rejected by the IAAF. "We are not like a public prosecutor offering a plea bargain," Gyulai said. "We don't do bargains. We just want a clean sport." THG was uncovered last summer after a tip by an anonymous coach who provided the US Anti-Doping Agency with a used syringe containing the substance. It dentified the compound as a new steroid modified to evade detection and devised a test for it. Four US athletes tested positive for THG at the national championships in June in California. Chambers, the European 100 metres champion, tested positive in an out-of-competition control in Germany in August. The IAAF confirmed yesterday that retesting of samples from the World Championships in Paris in August had begun. The 400 samples are being analysed for THG at France's Olympic doping control lab. Any positive findings would result in retroactive disqualifications, including the stripping of any medals, and two-year bans. Nick Davies, an IAAF spokesman, said the retesting could take up to three weeks. The IAAF expected "no more than a handful" of positive THG tests. "We expect a similar level or even fewer cases than at the US trials," Davies said. "It seems to be limited to certain individuals. The fact that it's the world championships is not going to make a big difference." Chambers was suspended last Friday after analysis of his back-up B sample confirmed his positive A test. His lawyer insisted that the sprinter had never taken performance-enhancing drugs and would fight to clear his name. He previously blamed the positive test on supplements allegedly supplied by a California-based company at the centre of a federal investigation. Under international "strict liability" rules, athletes are considered responsible for any banned substance found in their body. Eamonn Condon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
