t-and-f: any one know when ....

2004-01-19 Thread Charles F. Wandler
the 2004 NCAA Track and Field manual might be out/shipped?

thanks



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Re: t-and-f: Distance and Sprint Dominance

2004-01-19 Thread Mike Prizy
Modern African proverb not yet plagiarized by Sen. Clinton:
It takes a whole village to moderate a track list.

malmo wrote:

 Dan, just because you're paranoid, it doesn't mean we're still not out
 to get you.

 malmo

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan Kaplan
 Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2004 11:00 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: t-and-f: Distance and Sprint Dominance

 Well, the t-and-f list has officially gone to shit.  Apparently no one
 can read anymore, let alone conduct themselves politely.

 I don't particuarly agree with the ol' adage, but I don't think that's
 exactly what it is saying.  The gist of the argument is...

 Very first thing I said.  If it's unclear to anyone that I was
 clarifying the argument, not stating my own position, then I suggest you
 enroll in remedial preschool classes.

 --- edndana [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Which is a load of crap.

 --- Steve Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Brilliantly naive. My guess is that you've never seen a sprinter
  train. A couple of strides, a high knee or two and some stretching
  right?

 --- malmo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Easy Steve, Dan's a novice fan.

 Morons (with the possible exception of Ed, who I can't tell if he was
 disagreeing with me or not).  I expect it from Malmo, but anyone else
 sinking to that level of stupidity should be ashamed of themselves.
 Steve, try thinking before opening your mouth.  I coached sprinters for
 4 years, which should answer your idiotic question.  And no, Malmo, you
 can't just delete threads here that disagree with you like on
 letsrun.com.  Your attitude is on record for everyone to see.  G'day.

 Dan

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t-and-f: Former Stanford runner, Caroline Annis, qualifies for marathon working full-time

2004-01-19 Thread Ricky Quintana
FORMER PLANT STAR HAS OLYMPIC DREAMS IN SIGHT

By Bill Ward
Tampa Tribune
  TAMPA ... Even when Caroline Annis was winning all those 3-mile races for
Plant High ... including four individual state championships ... the thought
of
competing in a marathon crossed her mind.
  Considering she was one of the school's most dedicated runners and was
coming close to logging the kind of mileage needed for a 26.2-mile race, it
wasn't a far-fetched idea.
  She was probably 16 or 17 when she first mentioned she wanted to run a
marathon one day, but I always told her she was too young and needed to wait
until after college,'' Plant coach Roy Harrison said. But I knew she had
the
discipline and an ability to run them. She's a natural.''
  Annis proved Harrison right in her marathon debut, last week's California

International Marathon in Sacramento. Training almost exclusively on her
own,
Annis qualified for next year's U.S. Olympic marathon trials by completing
the
race in 2 hours, 47 minutes. That placed her 10th among female finishers and
58th overall.

  Women running a certified marathon in 2:48 or faster meet the U.S.
trials'
B'' standard while those running 2:39:59 or better meet the A''
standard,
a level that entitles the athlete to have their expenses paid for the
trials,
scheduled for April 3 in St. Louis.
  Annis had no serious intention of using the race as a trials qualifier at

either standard. In many ways, it was more of a personal challenge to simply

complete it. She knew the minimum time for the trials, but it was only in
the
closing stages of the race that she began to think of dipping under that
mark.
  When I came down the last straightaway and saw the clock, I was kind of

shocked,'' said Annis, 23. It was the biggest feeling of satisfaction I've

ever had in my running career.''

  Considering all Annis has achieved in more than 10 years of competitive
running, that's quite a statement. During her four years at Stanford, she
won
All-PAC 10 and All-America honors in cross country and qualified for the
10,000-meter finals at the NCAA nationals her senior year. At Plant, she won
four straight state cross country championships, a feat only one other
runner
in Florida has accomplished. She was a two-time Foot Locker national cross
country qualifier and in track, won two 1,600-meter crowns and three titles
at
3,200 meters.
  Still, Annis says her first marathon was special because she did much of
the preparation on her own.
  It was a tremendous feeling of satisfaction,'' Annis said. I did it
without a lot input from other people, did most of my runs alone, and I'm
working a full-time job.''
  Annis also enjoyed the fact that several family members, including her
mom,
dad and brother, flew from Tampa to attend the race. They got to be part of
her race by standing at several points on the route, shouting encouragement
and split times.
  In college and high school, you're surrounded by teammates and coaches
and when you do see family and friends, it's usually for only a brief time
and
off you go with your team,'' Annis said. But at the marathon, they got to
be
right there with me along the course and with me right after the race. That
meant a lot to me.''
  Annis graduated from Stanford with her bachelor's degree in human biology

last year but, through a graduate school program called co-terming,'' she
had started working on her master's degree in epidemiology. She finished
those
classes in June and, after writing her thesis during the summer, graduated
in
August.
  She took a job at the University of California-San Francisco Medical
Center, doing research for breast cancer prevention. Even when she finished
her studies at Stanford, Annis was running nearly every day. She kept it up
after she landed the job and slowly began to build her mileage with the idea
of doing her first marathon later that winter.

  About the only training advice Annis took was from a friend who ran for
the
University of North Carolina, Heather Tanner. Currently running for the Nike
Farm Team, Tanner is also training for marathons and shared some of her
workouts with Annis. Difference was, Tanner was logging close to 100 miles a
week while Annis found she only had time for a little more than 70 ... and
that
was during the peak of her base training.
  With my job, there was just no way I could do the same kind of miles
she
was doing,'' Annis said. My work is a big priority to me, and I'm not sure
if I really want to dedicate that much time to training.''

  Living and working in San Francisco, Annis says she will likely step up

my training a notch or two'' in preparation for the trials. But she knows
making the Olympic team is something that requires full-time training.
Caroline2.jpg  Caroline.jpg
  Only the top three finishers at the trials qualify for the team, and
those
athletes must have reached either the Olympic A'' or B'' standard for
the
marathon of 2:32 or 2:36, respectively. Annis hasn't ruled out trying to run
those 

t-and-f: Former Stanford runner, Caroline Annis, qualifies for marathon working full-time

2004-01-19 Thread Ricky Quintana
FORMER PLANT STAR HAS OLYMPIC DREAMS IN SIGHT

  TAMPA ... Even when Caroline Annis was winning all those 3-mile races for

Plant High ... including four individual state championships ... the thought
of
competing in a marathon crossed her mind.
  Considering she was one of the school's most dedicated runners and was
coming close to logging the kind of mileage needed for a 26.2-mile race, it
wasn't a far-fetched idea.
  She was probably 16 or 17 when she first mentioned she wanted to run a
marathon one day, but I always told her she was too young and needed to wait
until after college,'' Plant coach Roy Harrison said. But I knew she had
the
discipline and an ability to run them. She's a natural.''
  Annis proved Harrison right in her marathon debut, last week's California

International Marathon in Sacramento. Training almost exclusively on her
own,
Annis qualified for next year's U.S. Olympic marathon trials by completing
the
race in 2 hours, 47 minutes. That placed her 10th among female finishers and
58th overall.

  Women running a certified marathon in 2:48 or faster meet the U.S.
trials'
B'' standard while those running 2:39:59 or better meet the A''
standard,
a level that entitles the athlete to have their expenses paid for the
trials,
scheduled for April 3 in St. Louis.
  Annis had no serious intention of using the race as a trials qualifier at

either standard. In many ways, it was more of a personal challenge to simply

complete it. She knew the minimum time for the trials, but it was only in
the
closing stages of the race that she began to think of dipping under that
mark.
  When I came down the last straightaway and saw the clock, I was kind of

shocked,'' said Annis, 23. It was the biggest feeling of satisfaction I've

ever had in my running career.''

  Considering all Annis has achieved in more than 10 years of competitive
running, that's quite a statement. During her four years at Stanford, she
won
All-PAC 10 and All-America honors in cross country and qualified for the
10,000-meter finals at the NCAA nationals her senior year. At Plant, she won
four straight state cross country championships, a feat only one other
runner
in Florida has accomplished. She was a two-time Foot Locker national cross
country qualifier and in track, won two 1,600-meter crowns and three titles
at
3,200 meters.
  Still, Annis says her first marathon was special because she did much of
the preparation on her own.
  It was a tremendous feeling of satisfaction,'' Annis said. I did it
without a lot input from other people, did most of my runs alone, and I'm
working a full-time job.''
  Annis also enjoyed the fact that several family members, including her
mom,
dad and brother, flew from Tampa to attend the race. They got to be part of
her race by standing at several points on the route, shouting encouragement
and split times.
  In college and high school, you're surrounded by teammates and coaches
and when you do see family and friends, it's usually for only a brief time
and
off you go with your team,'' Annis said. But at the marathon, they got to
be
right there with me along the course and with me right after the race. That
meant a lot to me.''
  Annis graduated from Stanford with her bachelor's degree in human biology

last year but, through a graduate school program called co-terming,'' she
had started working on her master's degree in epidemiology. She finished
those
classes in June and, after writing her thesis during the summer, graduated
in
August.
  She took a job at the University of California-San Francisco Medical
Center, doing research for breast cancer prevention. Even when she finished
her studies at Stanford, Annis was running nearly every day. She kept it up
after she landed the job and slowly began to build her mileage with the idea
of doing her first marathon later that winter.

  About the only training advice Annis took was from a friend who ran for
the
University of North Carolina, Heather Tanner. Currently running for the Nike
Farm Team, Tanner is also training for marathons and shared some of her
workouts with Annis. Difference was, Tanner was logging close to 100 miles a
week while Annis found she only had time for a little more than 70 ... and
that
was during the peak of her base training.
  With my job, there was just no way I could do the same kind of miles
she
was doing,'' Annis said. My work is a big priority to me, and I'm not sure
if I really want to dedicate that much time to training.''

  Living and working in San Francisco, Annis says she will likely step up

my training a notch or two'' in preparation for the trials. But she knows
making the Olympic team is something that requires full-time training.
Caroline2.jpg  Caroline.jpg
  Only the top three finishers at the trials qualify for the team, and
those
athletes must have reached either the Olympic A'' or B'' standard for
the
marathon of 2:32 or 2:36, respectively. Annis hasn't ruled out trying to run
those kind of times some day, 

t-and-f: Track Punk Rock meet on Reality TV

2004-01-19 Thread Jim Gerweck
To the dismay of aging punk fans, a British television company announced
Monday that the former Sex Pistols singer and angry punk icon - now known by
his real name, John Lydon - has agreed to appear in the reality show ``I'm a
Celebrity ... Get Me Out of Here!''

Alongside Lydon, the lineup includes a topless model named Jordan, former
Olympic 400-meter runner Diane Modahl, '80s pop pinup Peter Andre, and Lord
Brocket, an aristocrat jailed in 1996 for insurance fraud.



Re: t-and-f: Track Punk Rock meet on Reality TV

2004-01-19 Thread Martin J. Dixon
We have Bob Geldof to blame for these horrors.

http://www.cyberspace7.btinternet.co.uk/geldofnews15.htm

Jim Gerweck wrote:

 To the dismay of aging punk fans, a British television company announced
 Monday that the former Sex Pistols singer and angry punk icon - now known by
 his real name, John Lydon - has agreed to appear in the reality show ``I'm a
 Celebrity ... Get Me Out of Here!''

 Alongside Lydon, the lineup includes a topless model named Jordan, former
 Olympic 400-meter runner Diane Modahl, '80s pop pinup Peter Andre, and Lord
 Brocket, an aristocrat jailed in 1996 for insurance fraud.






Re: t-and-f: Track Punk Rock meet on Reality TV

2004-01-19 Thread Bob Duncan
Martin Dixon wrote:
 We have Bob Geldof to blame for these horrors.

 http://www.cyberspace7.btinternet.co.uk/geldofnews15.htm

I hate reality shows, too.  Geldof has done a bit of good in  his time, so
we should cut him some slack.
In the picture at the link, is Diane Modahl pictured?  Second from the left?

bob