Re: t-and-f: Radcliffe rival left out by Japanese

2004-03-16 Thread Martin J. Dixon
A canuck lister who lives over there says that it is front page news. If the
US had a similar selection system, it would be like KK being left off the
team and that story being the lead story on the network news. Can you
imagine?

EamonnC wrote:

 The runner expected to be among Paula Radcliffe's biggest rivals for the
 marathon gold medal at the Olympic Games has been left out of the
 Japanese team for Athens.

 In a decision which shocked even the country's prime minister, the
 selectors omitted Naoko Takahashi, who won the marathon at the last
 Olympics in Sydney.



Re: t-and-f: Radcliffe rival left out by Japanese

2004-03-16 Thread edndana
Yeah, but read what constitutes fading - second place at a major marathon.
Personally, I have always been flabbergasted when a federation says they
will be picking on the results of four races and that is their sole
criteria.  It's like an open invitation to overrace.  Let's say that a
different Japanese woman had won each one in a fast time.  Who would have
been left off?  Would the winner of the first race have to plan on running
the fourth race to be sure?

Really, really stupid selection process.  I can't argue with their final
decision, because to leave any of the other three off would have been wrong,
but the process they designed was asinine.

- Ed


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 She failed to impress the selectors in November's Tokyo Marathon,
 one of four races designated as trials. Takahashi faded in the last four
miles to finish
 second behind Elfenesh Alemu of Ethiopia.
 Takahashi skipped Sunday's Nagoya Marathon to concentrate on
 training for Athens
 
 After several hours of deliberation, however, the selectors came up with
 a team of three and the damning verdict that Takahashi should have
 wrapped up her Tokyo race more skilfully.
 
 ...the federation picked Reiko Tosa, who won
 in Nagoya

 What a horrible case of communication between athlete and federation!!

 And we think the U.S. communicates bad at times.
 If there were four races designated as Trials, how could she possibly fade
 in one, skip another and hope to get selected based on merit from a
four-year
 old race NOT designated as one of the four trials?
 Did the Japanese federation send her misleading signals as to their
 intentions?
 One would think if she didn't enter Nagoya she or her coaches must have
 had pretty clear signals that she was on the team.

 Lesson learned- never take anything for granted- get it in writing.

 There may be other factors at work- like people on the selection committee
 choosing retributive payback against a coach who maybe have crossed
 them in some way in the past- just guessing at what might be going
 on here.

 RT




t-and-f: Cyclists 'cheat dope tests'

2004-03-16 Thread EamonnC
Cyclists have rendered advances in drug testing meaningless with methods
designed to evade controls, according to the French rider Philippe
Gaumont. 

Full story at
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/cycling/3516584.stm

Eamonn Condon
[EMAIL PROTECTED]


t-and-f: Women's PV Records, corrected

2004-03-16 Thread Roger Ruth
Thanks to Tom Casacky, who pointed out that I had not updated the RUS and
USA records from the results of the world indoor championships, and to
Michel Saint-Raymond, who noted that the year for the Swiss record should be
2004, not 2003. I see, also, that I should have included Svetlana
Makarevich's tying the Belarus record. It has been my usual practice to
include the tying of a record by a second athlete, but not repetitions by
the same vaulter.

With these corrections, the list would be:


Women's National Indoor Pole Vault Records a/o 2004-03-15

Algeria 4.02i   Linda Meziani   1999-02-06  2 Montceau-les-Mines
Andorra 2.45i   Lorena Alverez 2002-01-19   1   Vilafranca
Argentina   3.61i   Alejandra Llorente 2002-07-13   1   Burzaco
Australia   4.55i   Emma George1998-03-26   1   Adelaide
Austria 4.44i   Doris Auer 2001-03-18   2   Glasgow
Belarus 4.00i   Yuliya Taratynova  2003-02-15   4   Donetsk
4.00i   Svetlana Makarevich2004-02-07   2   Moskva
Belgium 4.10i   Irena Dufour   2003-02-16   1   Gent
Brazil  4.00i   Michaela Heitkoter 2004-01-14   1   Frankfurt
Bulgaria4.40i   Tanya Koleva   2001-02-03   1   Sofia
Canada  4.35i   Stephanie McCann   2004-02-07   1=   Flagstaff
Chile   4.10i   Carolina Torres2003-03-02   2   Magglingen
China   4.45i   Shuying Gao2002-03-10   2   Sindelfingen
Croatia 3.70i   Ivona Jerkovic 2004-01-24   2   Ljubljana
Cyprus  4.01i   Anna Fitadou   1999-01-30   1   Patra
Czech Republic  4.57i   Pavla Hamácková2003-02-08   1   Potsdam
Denmark 4.23i   Marie Rasmussen2002-02-17   1   Malmö
Egypt   3.64i   Sonya Ahmed2001-02-24   2   Tulsa
El Salvador 3.73i   Michelle Rivera2002-02-23  3hs  Los Angeles
Estonia 3.91i   Merle Kivimetts2001-02-11   1   Tallinn
Finland 4.11i   Hanna Palamaa  2002-02-22   1  Bowling Green
France  4.50i   Vanessa Boslak 2004-02-22   1   Aubieres
Georgia 2.70i   Ina Narijniak  1996-05-22   Tsilibisi
Germany 4.68i   Annika Becker  2004-02-04   2   Dortmund
Great Britain   4.44i   Janine Whitlock2002-02-17   4   Birmingham
Greece  4.37i   Georgia Tsiliggiri 2001-02-23   1   Pireaus
Guam2.90i   Juliana Jensen 2001-02-03   Pocatello
Hungary 4.51i   Zsuzsa Szabó   1999-02-04   1   Budapest
Iceland 4.51i   Thórey Elisdóttir  2001-03-10   1   Fayetteville
Indonesia   3.82i   Desy Margawati 2001-02-03   Tsaotun
Ireland 3.82i   Bridget Pearson2000-02-19   5   Los Angeles
Israel  3.80i   Olga Dogadko   2003-02-12   1   Moskva
Italy   4.30i   Francesca Dolcini  2002-02-01   2   Zweibrücken
Jamaica 3.36i   Sandé Swaby2001-02-23   Lincoln
Japan   4.30i   Masumi Ono 2002-03-03   1   Tianjin
Kazakhstan  3.90i   Yelena Reznik  2001-02-25   4   Tianjin
Korea   3.22i   Choi Yun-Hee   2001-03-20   Toyota
Latvia  3.92i   Rita Obizajeva 2004-02-22   1   Kaunas
Lithuania   3.70i   Edita Grigelionyte 2004-02-14   1   Panavezys
Luxembourg  3.11i   Joelle Scheer  2000-12-23   Diekirch
Malaysia4.00i   Roslinda Samsu 2004-02-07   2   Tehran
Mali2.82i   Aminata Sanako 1996-01-13  Cergy-la-Tour
Mexico  3.90i   Alejandra Meza 2003-01-18   1   Houston
Netherlands 4.45i   Monique de Wilt2003-02-15   1   Gent
New Zealand 4.15i   Melina Hamilton2004-02-28   1   Sydney
Norway  3.85i   Anita Tomulevski   1996-03-08   Stockholm
Poland  4.65i   Monika Pyrek   2004-02-21   1   Spala
Portugal4.23i   Elisabete Tavares  2003-02-15   2   Mondeville
Puerto Rico 3.96i   Michelle Velez 2002-02-01   2   Lexington
Romania 4.25i   Gabriella Mihalcea 1999-02-13   1   Pireaus
Russia  4.86i   Svetlana Feofanova 2004-03-06   1   Budapest
Slovakia3.60i   Slavomira Slúková  2000-02-05   2   Bratislava
Slovenia4.20i   Teja Melink2004-02-07   1   Wien
South Africa4.41i   Elmarie Gerryts2000-02-20   1   Birmingham
Spain   4.46i   Dana Cervantes 2004-01-31   1   Zaragoza
Sweden  4.37i   Kirsten Belin  2003-03-02   1   Sätra
Switzerland 4.20i   Nadine Rohr2003-02-22   1   Magglingen
Taiwan  3.96i   Chang Ko-Hsin  2004-02-20   1   Tsaotun
Tunisia 4.20i   Syrine Balti   2003-02-22   4   Bordeaux
Turkey  4.10i   Tatyana Zaykova2000-02-04   4   Volgograd
Ukraine 4.47i   Anzhela Balakhonova2000-02-04   1   

t-and-f: Women's Record Correction, again!

2004-03-16 Thread Roger Ruth
Okay, so now I see I have Dragila's USA record, at the world championships
in Budapest, as 2003, not 2004.

Sorry. I think I'll try another thread--team decathlon, anyone?




t-and-f: Kim Batten Running FSU Relays-Lacy Jnason, Emily Carlsten, and Candice Scott

2004-03-16 Thread Ricky Quintana
I don't think it's an error, but she's listed in the men's perfomrance list 
# 22
Lacy Janson's first competitoin since scary fall at USATF. Amy Linnen 
competing too.
Emily Carlsten competing too
Candice Scott takes it outdoors in hammer
Event 48 Men 400 Meter Hurdles Garnet
===
Name Year School Seed
===
1 Paiva, Joe Florida State 52.00
2 Johnson, Greg Unattached 52.80
3 Prato, Peter Florida State 53.00
4 Waits, Seth Michigan 53.50
5 Talbert, DarNell Michigan 53.75
6 Smith, Franz MidAmerica Nazar 53.80
7 Crosby, Jordan Georgia Tech 53.81
8 Battani, David Michigan 54.00
9 Duckett, Brandon Georgia Tech 54.24
10 Meter, Nick Michigan 54.25
11 Meehan, Jeff Umass Lowell 54.82
12 Hall, Jarrod South Florida 54.85
13 Vidal, Tim Florida AM 55.00
14 Brewster, Ben Kentucky 55.00
15 Miller, Corey Ball State 55.00
16 Strode, Brandon North Central 55.00
17 Lamb, Jonathon Ball State 55.30
18 Solomon, Ameer Georgia Tech 55.35
19 Wilson, Devin Unattached 55.57
20 Winton, Isom Grinnell 55.60
21 Robinson, Jason Johnson County 55.90
22 Batten, Kim Unattached 56.00
23 Fuller-Young, Alex Colgate 56.80
24 Brinkley, Micah Liberty U. 57.11
25 Jannitto, Mike Central Connecti 57.15
26 Siliac, John Liberty U. 57.50
27 Opio, John Minot State 57.50
28 Grech, Tony South Florida 59.00
29 Leonard, David Central Connecti 59.11
30 Ellinger, James College of Woost 59.99
31 Kelm, Robert College of Woost 59.99
32 Sabater, Milton Central Connecti 1:00.22

Event 19 Women Pole Vault Gold
===
Name Year School Seed Mark
===
1 Janson, Lacy Florida State 4.26m
2 Altman, Dana University of Fl 3.95m
3 Lacombe, Chandra University of Fl 3.86m
4 Boyle, Elizabeth Michigan 3.81m
5 Gasparella, Lynn Michigan 3.81m
6 Malone, Megan South Florida 3.80m
7 Catino, Kelly Michigan 3.73m
8 VanWagner, Dana University of Fl 3.70m
9 West, Kristina South Florida 3.60m
10 Matson, Betsy South Florida 3.60m
11 Gjerde, Laura Johnson County 3.53m
12 Savery, Karla Unattached 3.50m
13 Earp, Jessica Unattached NH
14 Dutoit, Andrea Vault Usa NH
15 Linnen, Amy Vault Usa NH
Event 89 Women Javelin Throw Gold
===
Name Year School Seed Mark
===
1 Carlster, Emily Unattached 51.81m
2 Stephenson, Lindsey Michigan 44.42m
3 White, Meaghan Umass Lowell 43.10m
4 Baldwin, Betsy SE Louisiana 41.86m
5 Purcell, Kate Florida State 41.32m
6 George, Lindsay Jacksonville 38.40m
7 Flittner, Holly Ball State 36.90m
8 Marby, Karmen Ball State 36.00m
9 Ferra, Ashley Central Connecti 35.78m
10 Petteway, Lindy Georgia Southern 35.00m
Event 91 Women Hammer Throw Gold
===
Name Year School Seed Mark
===
1 Scott, Candice University of Fl 67.97m
2 Dickerson, Jukina University of Fl 66.75m
3 Almestica, Amarilis Unattached 62.58m
4 Octavien, Dayana South Florida 60.96m
5 Cotten, LaQuanda University of Fl 58.52m
6 Jones, Danee Missouri Souther 54.33m
7 Bickett, Melissa Michigan 54.24m
8 Tiggs, Amber Georgia Southern 51.00m
9 Brewer, Chandra South Florida 50.30m
10 Parker, Simone Georgia Tech 49.50m
11 Flittner, Holly Ball State 48.49m
12 Sherrell, Shonna Missouri Souther 48.23m
13 Kinney, Amanda Florida State 47.80m
14 Eckel, Ashley Michigan 47.70m
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