RE: t-and-f: Killing the sport was major philosophy difference for the sport

2003-09-09 Thread P.F.Talbot
The high school kids in the U.S. have been on drugs for a long time:

http://espn.go.com/gen/s/2000/1213/945303.html

The steroid-use rate is 5-8% of ALL high school boys.  I would bet that most
of the use is done by athletes so put it over 10%.  Probably concentrated in
football, but a whole lot of HS footballers compete in track and field.

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H.  We're not so naïve as to suggest that the NCAA is drug-free?  How
about some of the foreign athletes who have matriculated (are matriculating)
and their track "records" without even starting on our citizen participants?
Otherwise, what is the purpose for NCAA drug testing.  Hopefully to try and
deter the athlete, alas, we also know how difficult it is to "catch the
culprits"!

It's a filter down system.  May I be so bold as to suggest the high schools
are even caught up in this whole chase your tail game.

We're in a pill-popping, needle-sticking culture and time.

Wes Cook,

George Fox University

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From: Tom Derderian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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sport

Drugs are killing the sport and what is driving drugs is money. Are  they
related? Maybe there is a place for expressed amateur sports? Such is the
NCAA.
Tom
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> How 'bout it's killing the sport.
>
> Dan Kaplan wrote:
>
> > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > If lots of people decide to rob banks and don't see anything wrong
> > > with it, and the police can't keep up, does that mean that bank
> > > robbery should be made legal?
> >
> > Robbing banks has a clearly defined ill effect on society.  That's yet
to
> > be demonstrated very convincingly with regards to performance enhancing
> > drugs.  Next.
> >
> > Dan
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Re: t-and-f: Killing the sport was major philosophy difference for the sport

2003-09-09 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust
NCAA not lilly white either.

http://espn.go.com/gen/s/2000/1207/929862.html

P.F.Talbot wrote:

The high school kids in the U.S. have been on drugs for a long time:

http://espn.go.com/gen/s/2000/1213/945303.html

The steroid-use rate is 5-8% of ALL high school boys.  I would bet that most
of the use is done by athletes so put it over 10%.  Probably concentrated in
football, but a whole lot of HS footballers compete in track and field.
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Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 11:54 AM
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Subject: RE: t-and-f: Killing the sport was major philosphy difference
for the sport
H.  We're not so naïve as to suggest that the NCAA is drug-free?  How
about some of the foreign athletes who have matriculated (are matriculating)
and their track "records" without even starting on our citizen participants?
Otherwise, what is the purpose for NCAA drug testing.  Hopefully to try and
deter the athlete, alas, we also know how difficult it is to "catch the
culprits"!
It's a filter down system.  May I be so bold as to suggest the high schools
are even caught up in this whole chase your tail game.
We're in a pill-popping, needle-sticking culture and time.

Wes Cook,

George Fox University

-Original Message-
From: Tom Derderian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 1:43 AM
To: lehane; Dan Kaplan
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: t-and-f: Killing the sport was major philosphy difference for the
sport
Drugs are killing the sport and what is driving drugs is money. Are  they
related? Maybe there is a place for expressed amateur sports? Such is the
NCAA.
Tom
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How 'bout it's killing the sport.

Dan Kaplan wrote:

   

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If lots of people decide to rob banks and don't see anything wrong
with it, and the police can't keep up, does that mean that bank
robbery should be made legal?
   

Robbing banks has a clearly defined ill effect on society.  That's yet
 

to
 

be demonstrated very convincingly with regards to performance enhancing
drugs.  Next.
Dan

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