Re: t-and-f: Radcliffe rival left out by Japanese

2004-03-16 Thread Martin J. Dixon
A canuck lister who lives over there says that it is front page news. If the
US had a similar selection system, it would be like KK being left off the
team and that story being the lead story on the network news. Can you
imagine?

EamonnC wrote:

 The runner expected to be among Paula Radcliffe's biggest rivals for the
 marathon gold medal at the Olympic Games has been left out of the
 Japanese team for Athens.

 In a decision which shocked even the country's prime minister, the
 selectors omitted Naoko Takahashi, who won the marathon at the last
 Olympics in Sydney.



Re: t-and-f: Radcliffe rival left out by Japanese

2004-03-16 Thread edndana
Yeah, but read what constitutes fading - second place at a major marathon.
Personally, I have always been flabbergasted when a federation says they
will be picking on the results of four races and that is their sole
criteria.  It's like an open invitation to overrace.  Let's say that a
different Japanese woman had won each one in a fast time.  Who would have
been left off?  Would the winner of the first race have to plan on running
the fourth race to be sure?

Really, really stupid selection process.  I can't argue with their final
decision, because to leave any of the other three off would have been wrong,
but the process they designed was asinine.

- Ed


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 She failed to impress the selectors in November's Tokyo Marathon,
 one of four races designated as trials. Takahashi faded in the last four
miles to finish
 second behind Elfenesh Alemu of Ethiopia.
 Takahashi skipped Sunday's Nagoya Marathon to concentrate on
 training for Athens
 
 After several hours of deliberation, however, the selectors came up with
 a team of three and the damning verdict that Takahashi should have
 wrapped up her Tokyo race more skilfully.
 
 ...the federation picked Reiko Tosa, who won
 in Nagoya

 What a horrible case of communication between athlete and federation!!

 And we think the U.S. communicates bad at times.
 If there were four races designated as Trials, how could she possibly fade
 in one, skip another and hope to get selected based on merit from a
four-year
 old race NOT designated as one of the four trials?
 Did the Japanese federation send her misleading signals as to their
 intentions?
 One would think if she didn't enter Nagoya she or her coaches must have
 had pretty clear signals that she was on the team.

 Lesson learned- never take anything for granted- get it in writing.

 There may be other factors at work- like people on the selection committee
 choosing retributive payback against a coach who maybe have crossed
 them in some way in the past- just guessing at what might be going
 on here.

 RT




t-and-f: Radcliffe rival left out by Japanese

2004-03-15 Thread EamonnC
The Electronic Telegraph
Tuesday 16 March 2004
Tom Knight 



The runner expected to be among Paula Radcliffe's biggest rivals for the
marathon gold medal at the Olympic Games has been left out of the
Japanese team for Athens.

In a decision which shocked even the country's prime minister, the
selectors omitted Naoko Takahashi, who won the marathon at the last
Olympics in Sydney.

Takahashi, a national icon, was the first woman to run the marathon
inside 2hr 20min, when she won the Berlin race in 2hr 19min 46sec.

Despite her impressive record, she was passed over because she failed to
impress the selectors in November's Tokyo Marathon, one of four races
designated as trials. Takahashi faded in the last four miles to finish
second behind Elfenesh Alemu of Ethiopia.

It was thought that she would be given the chance to defend her Olympic
title and Takahashi skipped Sunday's Nagoya Marathon to concentrate on
training for Athens

After several hours of deliberation, however, the selectors came up with
a team of three and the damning verdict that Takahashi should have
wrapped up her Tokyo race more skilfully.

With Mizuki Noguchi already selected following her silver medal at last
summer's World Championships, the federation picked Reiko Tosa, who won
in Nagoya, and Naoko Sakamoto, the champion in Osaka.

Takahashi said: I had always wanted to go to Athens and even pictured
myself running there. I have regrets, but I wish all the best to the
people who have been selected.

Junichiro Koizumi, the Japanese prime minister, said: I feel sad. Can
they add just another person by any means?

Eamonn Condon
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Re: t-and-f: Radcliffe rival left out by Japanese

2004-03-15 Thread Dan Kaplan
 Naoko Takahashi, who won the marathon at the last Olympics in Sydney.
 
 After several hours of deliberation, however, the selectors came up
 with a team of three...
 
 Junichiro Koizumi, the Japanese prime minister, said: I feel sad. Can
 they add just another person by any means?

Does the wild card rule not come into play for a 4th entrant?  Or is that
just for the WCs?

Dan

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Re: t-and-f: Radcliffe rival left out by Japanese

2004-03-15 Thread koala
She failed to impress the selectors in November's Tokyo Marathon,
one of four races designated as trials. Takahashi faded in the last four miles to 
finish
second behind Elfenesh Alemu of Ethiopia.
Takahashi skipped Sunday's Nagoya Marathon to concentrate on
training for Athens

After several hours of deliberation, however, the selectors came up with
a team of three and the damning verdict that Takahashi should have
wrapped up her Tokyo race more skilfully.

...the federation picked Reiko Tosa, who won
in Nagoya

What a horrible case of communication between athlete and federation!!

And we think the U.S. communicates bad at times.
If there were four races designated as Trials, how could she possibly fade
in one, skip another and hope to get selected based on merit from a four-year
old race NOT designated as one of the four trials?
Did the Japanese federation send her misleading signals as to their
intentions?
One would think if she didn't enter Nagoya she or her coaches must have
had pretty clear signals that she was on the team.

Lesson learned- never take anything for granted- get it in writing.

There may be other factors at work- like people on the selection committee
choosing retributive payback against a coach who maybe have crossed
them in some way in the past- just guessing at what might be going
on here.

RT



Re: t-and-f: Radcliffe rival left out by Japanese

2004-03-15 Thread koala
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 22:00:38 -0800 (PST), you wrote:

 Naoko Takahashi, who won the marathon at the last Olympics in Sydney.
 
 After several hours of deliberation, however, the selectors came up
 with a team of three...
 
 Junichiro Koizumi, the Japanese prime minister, said: I feel sad. Can
 they add just another person by any means?

Does the wild card rule not come into play for a 4th entrant?  Or is that
just for the WCs?

Dan

Just WC's.  IAAF would probably do it for OG's if they had control over
entries, but IOC wouldn't go for it.  They're trying to cut back on entries,
not increase them.  example: the relays.

RT