Re: t-and-f: Brandon Christian 10.00
How about DaBryan Blanton from Forney, TX that same day with an electronic 10.26 and later finished 2nd in the 200 at 21.13. He was beaten by Wade from Shreveport, La in the 200 after Wade lost to him in the 100 with a 10.29. Wade had a 20.83 in winning the 200. Just another typical Sat afternoon in Texas high school track. - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 11:33 PM Subject: t-and-f: Brandon Christian 10.00 So I was browsing through the Austin American Statesman agate this afternoon, and came across this in the Austin Relays - 100: 1.Christian, Reagan, 10.00; 2. Schroeder, Westlake, 10.49; 3. Green, Connally, 10.69. Just for background, I seriously doubt there was electronic timing out there, and we had a screaming 10-15 mph wind out of the south yesterday - but it was certainly something to catch your eye. Of course, no mention of it in the text portion of the newspaper. Christian came back to knock off a 21.05 200 meters later on, btw. For comparison, Ychlinda Spears of Luling (another prep to watch) was also in the meet, and fell in the Girls 100 11.69 to 11.79 to ? Urbina of Austin Reagan. Spears won the 200 in an unimpressive 25.25. I'll follow up tomorrow with some folks I'm sure were at the meet, but it's not unusual for a meet to run the 100 and 200 in opposite directions, particularly at one stadium in town. It's not altogether impossible that Christian's 21.05 (where he won by 1.7 seconds!) wasn't really a more impressive performance than his first flirtation with the big ten-0 Phil
t-and-f: USATF Tix?
List, Any idea when tickets go on sale for USATF champs at Stanford? Any help is appreciated. Joe
t-and-f: Review of Ready, Set, GO!
Y ask: I've just uploaded a review of a new book by masters athlete Phil Campbell in Tennessee. It's significant for its promotion of masters track. Check it out at: http://www.masterstrack.com/news2002/news2002march26.html Bon appetit! Ken Stone http://www.masterstrack.com
t-and-f: NCAA Title IX Seminar
This is from the NCAA web site: http://www.ncaa.org/index2.html I wonder if it is an open forum? Gender Equity / Title IX NCAA Title IX Seminar May 9-10, 2002 The NCAA will celebrate the 30th anniversary of Title IX by hosting this year's Title IX Seminar at the Hyatt Regency Crystal City in Arlington, Virginia (five minutes from downtown Washington, D.C.), on May 9-10, 2002. Athletics administrators, attorneys, and others who have first-hand experience in working with Title IX and gender-equity issues will make presentations on a variety of Title IX-related issues. Registration for the 2002 Seminar is now available. REGISTER HERE to ensure your participation in this year's event. THIS SEMINAR WILL REACH CAPACITY. REGISTRATION DEADLINE: April 15, 2002 SPACE IS LIMITED. View the complete 2002 Title IX Seminar agenda. Seminar Fee NCAA institutional staff members and conference administrators: FREE Students: $25 Federal Government employees: $75 General public: $150 Media Inquiries To obtain a media credential application, please contact: Laronica Conway Phone: 317/917-6115 Fax: 317/917-6982 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] NCAA Title IX spokesperson: Rosie Stallman, Director of Education Outreach Phone: 317/917-6222 Fax: 317/917-6336 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional seminar information, contact: Matthew Stach Phone: 317/917-6312 Fax: 317/917-6336 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] PLEASE NOTE: The NCAA is not responsible for arranging or maintaining your hotel reservations. Once you have submitted your registration information you will be prompted to the HOTEL RESERVATION FORM.
t-and-f: Nike's guerrilla marketing at Boston Marathon
From today's Boston Globe: In a bid to get a jump on rival adidas, the official [shoe company] sponsor of the Boston Marathon, Nike Inc. is combining guerrilla marketing and a technique called 'station domination' at a subway stop near the finish line that long-distance runners hope to cross April 15. Full story at: http://www.boston.com/dailyglobe2/085/business/Nike_swooshes_its_way_into_ke y_Marathon_site+.shtml
t-and-f: Collins cruises to WR 200 in M50 at Boston
Y ask: Can anyone catch Bill Collins -- ever? When healthy, the 51-year-old sprintmeister from Missouri City, Texas, is all but unbeatable in his age group. Pit him against men decades younger, and he'd beat all but a handful. Collins, 51, proved it again Sunday (3/24/02) at the USATF National Masters Indoor Championships in Boston by adding another world record to his belt, this time in the M50 200-meter dash. In his heat, Bill Collins lowered his own world indoor best from 23.47 to 23.26. Then in the final, he pulled a Michael Johnson by reducing the record again, this time to 23.19, which beat runner-up Jesse Norman of Springfield Gardens, N.Y., by more than a second (with Norman clocking a fine 24.33). By comparison, Collins' 23.19 would have taken SECOND in yesterday's M30 race, THIRD in the M35, THIRD in the M40 and FIRST in the M45. Incredible. On the women's side, All-Universe sprinter/jumper Phil Raschker of Marietta, Georgia, completed her W55 debut nationals with a world record in one event and an American best in another. Raschker high jumped 1.31 (4-3 1/2) to beat the listed W55 American indoor record of 1.25 (4-1 1/4) by California's Christel Miller in 1990. Thus warmed up, Raschker returned to the Reggie Lewis track several hours later and spanned a world W55 indoor record 9.33 (30-7 1/2) in the triple jump, breaking Dutchwoman Rietje Dijkman's 1999 standard of 8.89 (29-2). Collins and Raschker -- both of whom have been USATF Masters Athletes of the Year -- were among many shining examples of masters athletics at Boston, which is pondering the possibility of hosting the first World Masters Indoor Championships in 2004. Among other highlights: -- Nadine Lowenstein, 56, of Clinton, N.Y., beat 1999 world WAVA champion Kathy Jager, 58, in their latest showdown, winning the W55 200 in 30.00 to Jager's 30.62. The 30.00 tied the listed American indoor W55 record by Adlin Mair of New York in 1997. Lowenstein, an assistant track coach at Hamilton College, perhaps could have ducked under 30 and challenged the world indoor W55 record of 29.62 if she hadn't run -- and won -- the W55 800 several hours earlier in 2:41.60. -- Kathryn Martin, 50, of Northport, N.Y., handled world record holder Carolyn Smith-Hanna in the W50 800. Martin, a Long Island road running legend, clocked an American record 2:27.42, lowering the previous record of 2:28.61 set by none other than Smith-Hanna a year ago. Smith-Hanna clocked 2:28.68 in second. -- Jeanne Daprano of Fayetteville, Georgia, holder of the American outdoor record in the W65 1500, ran the 800 here in an undercover world best of 2:53.54, beating the listed world indoor record of 2:56.63 by Canada's Jean H orne in 1998. -- Margaret Hinton's debut as a W80 continued apace, with the Comfort, Texas, pole vault star beating the listed world indoor high jump record in her age group by a centimeter. She cleared 0.91 (2-11 3/4) to best the old record of .90 by American Mary Bowermaster in 2000. In the triple jump, Hinton hop-step-and-jumped 5.15 (16-10 3/4) to retire the listed world W80 indoor record of 3.74 (12-3 1/3) by Aili Kankinen of Finland in 1999. And in the super weight throw -- an event without an official world record -- Hinton heaved the 25-pound implement 3.62 (11-10 1/2) for another U.S. record, beating the old AR of 3.24 (10-7 3/4) by California's Ivy Brown in 1995. Whew! Collins wasn't the only male sprint star at Boston. World champion Larry Colbert, 65, of Glenarden, Maryland, ran a 200 heat in 26.73 and the final several hours later in 26.20 to add the M65 age-group indoor world best to his M60 record. Colbert's 26.20 beat the previous listed M65 record of 26.41 by American Charles Williams in 1997. Other male stars: -- Nolan Shaheed, 52, of Pasadena, California, nipped Alston Brown, 53, of Mt. Vernon, N.Y., in the 800 -- 2:06.47 to 2:06.73. David Salazar, 51, of Cedar Crest, N.M., was third in the M50 800 at 2:06.81. -- Edwin Lukens, 80, of Skaneatelles, N.Y., spanned 8.30 (27-2 3/4) to smash the old M80 indoor world best in the triple jump of 8.10 (26-7) by Finland's Esko Kolhonen in 1995. -- Clarence Trahan, 87, of hot-hot-hot Hemet, California, triple jumped an American indoor record 6.31 (20-8 1/2), breaking his previous undercover M85 record of 6.11 (20-0 1/2) set in March 2000. National Masters News will publish full details of the meet in an upcoming issue, including a list of records that I may have missed. In the meantime, check out the Day Three results at: http://www.usatfne.org/masters/boston2002/r_day3.txt Congratulations and thanks to Boston's meet management, including the ever-humble Steve Vaitones of New England USATF, for ensuring expeditious posting of meet results every day of the three-day event. I am in your debt. On to Orono, Maine -- host of the USATF National Masters Outdoor Championships in August. See you there! Ken Stone
RE: t-and-f: Good show by Moroccan B team at XC Worlds
No stone throwing here. I'm just trying to look at it from a practical point of view. If everyone ran for their sponsors, there would be more Kenyan and Moroccan runners allowed, therfore improving the comepetition. Another solution could be to allow B and C teams. Unfortunately that would be too upsetting for many. If you think about it, the present setup really just holds many great runners back. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mcewen, Brian T Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 10:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: Good show by Moroccan B team at XC Worlds Careful where you throw a stone The U.S. has a few notables that weren't born here and grew up most of their early years elsewhere; like Keflezghi, Abdirahman, and DeReuck. /Brian -Original Message- From: Rich Harrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 10:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Good show by Morroccan B team at XC Worlds Look at those French names. It looks like Morroccan B team to me, though maybe there's an Algian or Tunisian athlete there. It's time to do it like US Nationals. Athletes here don't represent their states. They represent New Balance, Adidas, Puma, Nike, etc. The last summer Olympics moved me to form this opinion, when I saw that one of the small oil countries from the Middle East (UAE ?) had gone out and recruited some Slavic athletes for their weightlifting team. It somehow renders the concept of nationality irrelevant. This doesn't apply to many nations yet, but things are certainly moving in that direction. 4 France 71 390 Sghyr Ismaïl13 386 Essaïd Mustapha15 388 Lahssini El Hassan23 389 Serbouti Mohammed33 384 El Ahmadi El Hassan(75) 391 Zoubaa Khalid(76) Rich Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
t-and-f: Favorite places to run
ATTN: Runners Everwhere! Do you have a favorite place to run and train? Visit the web site of the Westminster Road Runners Club at http://ccpl.carr.org/~wrrc click on Favorite places to run and tell us about your favorite place to train... thanks-kevin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: t-and-f: Good show by Moroccan B team at XC Worlds
Careful where you throw a stone The U.S. has a few notables that weren't born here and grew up most of their early years elsewhere; like Keflezghi, Abdirahman, and DeReuck. /Brian -Original Message- From: Rich Harrington [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 10:14 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Good show by Morroccan B team at XC Worlds Look at those French names. It looks like Morroccan B team to me, though maybe there's an Algian or Tunisian athlete there. It's time to do it like US Nationals. Athletes here don't represent their states. They represent New Balance, Adidas, Puma, Nike, etc. The last summer Olympics moved me to form this opinion, when I saw that one of the small oil countries from the Middle East (UAE ?) had gone out and recruited some Slavic athletes for their weightlifting team. It somehow renders the concept of nationality irrelevant. This doesn't apply to many nations yet, but things are certainly moving in that direction. 4 France 71 390 Sghyr Ismaïl13 386 Essaïd Mustapha15 388 Lahssini El Hassan23 389 Serbouti Mohammed33 384 El Ahmadi El Hassan(75) 391 Zoubaa Khalid(76) Rich Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED]
t-and-f: Drummond case still pending
Court report: Jonathan Drummond, arrested last October for sales or transportation of marijuana, has finally entered a plea in his case. He had continued his case a number of times, but last week he entered a plea of not guilty at the Criminal Justice Center in downtown Los Angeles. His next court date is for preliminary hearing setting on April 17th in Division 30, case mumber BA225175. SGMW __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/
Re: t-and-f: USATF Tix?
On sale April 9 at 1-800-STANFORD. Michael Reilly List, Any idea when tickets go on sale for USATF champs at Stanford? Any help is appreciated. Joe
t-and-f: Interesting T9, Gender-Equity FAQs
This is from the NCAA's Title IX FAQ page. In my opinion, from what I have read, men's track and field appears to be treated differently, with interpretations not consistent with the intent of the law. For a real head-scratching experience, click on the NCAA's Title IX/Gender Equity section. Maybe men's track is now the disadvantaged gender. http://www.ncaa.org/gender_equity/ Q. Does Title IX mandate that a decrease in opportunities for male athletes be made in order to provide an increase in opportunities for female athletes? Title IX does not require reductions in opportunities for male student-athletes. One of the purposes is to create the same opportunity and quality of treatment for both female and male student-athletes. Eliminating men sports programs is not the intent of Title IX. The intent of Title IX is to bring treatment of the disadvantaged gender up to the level of the advantaged group. Q. Does Title IX require that equal dollars be spent on men and women's sports? No. The only provision that requires that the same dollars be spent proportional to participation is scholarships. Otherwise, male and female student-athletes must receive equitable treatment and benefits.
t-and-f: Other organizations join Title IX lawsuit
From www.ncaa.org Other organizations join Title IX lawsuit Both the College Gymnastics Association and the United States Track Coaches Association announced that they have joined the National Wrestling Coaches Association in its lawsuit against the U.S. Department of Education. The suit alleges that in 1996 the Department of Education unlawfully altered the way it interpreted Title IX, leading to the arbitrary elimination of hundreds of athletics programs. Said Douglas Van Everen, member of the College Gymnastics Association, The unintended consequences of proportionality, despite the success Title IX has brought to women's athletics, have led athletics departments to cut men's programs to meet a quota. The current interpretation of Title IX is wrong and needs to be changed, quickly.
t-and-f: USATF RELEASE: Drossin named Athlete of the Week
Contact:Tyra Whittaker Communications Intern USA Track Field (317) 261-0478 x357 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE March 26, 2002 Drossin named Athlete of the Week INDIANAPOLIS -Deena Drossin has been named USATF Athlete of the week following her silver-medal finish at the 30th IAAF World Cross Country Championships on Saturday in Dublin, Ireland. Drossin led Team USA to a team silver medal at the championships. The 2001 U.S. Marathon Champion, Drossin pulled away from the pack early to maintain her position and finish 9 seconds behind world champion Paula Ratcliffe in 27:04. Drossins personal goal for this years championship was to finish in the top five, which she did, making it the best individual performance by an American in this race since 1992 when Lynn Jennings won the last of her three consecutive world titles. Other notable performances at the World Cross-Country Championships included Colleen De Reucks 27:17 bronze-medal finish in her first U.S. international competition. Also on Saturday, at the GNC USA 50k Championships in Pittsburgh, Anne Riddle of Asheville, N.C., won her second consecutive womens USA 50k Championship. Riddle won the race in 3 hours, 44 minutes and 38 seconds. In the mens race, first time 50k competitor Dan Verrington, a marathoner from Bradford, Mass., won in the U.S. title in 3:09:15. At the Azalea Trail Run 10K on Saturday, Eddy Hellebuyck, 41, broke the U.S. Masters 10k record running 29:36 to finish as the second American overall. On the track last week, athletes turned in 13 U.S. leading performances (see list below). Now in its second year, USATFs Athlete of the Week program is designed to recognize performers at all levels of the sport. USATF names a new honoree each week and features the athlete on the USATF Web site. Selections are based on top performances and results from the previous week. 2002 USATF Athlete of the Week winners: January 3, Jim Garcia; January 8, Mary Louise Michelsohn; January 15, Tamara Diles; January 22, Miguel Pate; January 29, Regina Jacobs; February 5, Jeff Hartwig; February 12, Meb Keflezighi; February 19, Curt Clausen; February 26, Jeff Hartwig; March 2, Nicole Teter; March 12, Jeff Hartwig; March 19, Aretha Hill; March 26, Deena Drossin. For full results from the World Cross Country and 50k Championships, visit our Web site at www.usatf.org. TOP OUTDOOR PERFORMANCES, WEEK OF MARCH 24 100 METERS - 10.20 - Terence Newman (Kansas State) at Tucson, Arizona (U.S. leader) 110-METERS HURDLES - 13.46 - Ron Bramlett (Alabama) at Alabama Relays (U.S. leader) 400-METERS HURDLES - 50.10 - Fred Sharpe (Auburn) at Alabama Relays (U.S. leader) LONG JUMP - 25-10 (7.87m) - Walter Davis (LSU) at Baton Rouge, La. (U.S. leader) DISCUS THROW - 205-8 (62.69m) - Nick Petrucci at San Diego, Calif. (U.S. leader) HAMMER THROW - 226-9 (69.12m) - John McEwen at Alabama Relays JAVELIN THROW - 241-7 (73.63m) - Latrell Frederick at Lafayette, La. WOMENS 100 METERS - 11.36 - Brianna Glenn (Arizona) at Tucson, Ariz. (U.S. leader) WOMENS 200 METERS - 23.33 - Muna Lee (LSU) at Baton Rouge, La. (U.S. leader) WOMENS 400 METERS - 52.86 - Carolyn Jackson at Arizona State. (U.S. leader) WOMENS 3,000-METERS STEEPLECHASE - 10:10.8 - Kelly McDonald (Arizona State) at Arizona State (U.S. leader) WOMENS 100-METERS HURDLES - 13.16 - Danielle Carruthers (Indiana) at Arizona State (U.S. leader) WOMENS 400-METERS HURDLES - 57.59 - Lashinda Demus (South Carolina) at Columbia, SC (U.S. leader) WOMENS DISCUS THROW - 196-1 (59.76m) - Aretha Hill at Florida State Relays WOMENS HAMMER THROW - 211-7 (64.49m) - Dawn Ellerbe at Columbia, SC . (U.S. leader) WOMENS JAVELIN THROW - 180-1 (54.89m) - Kim Kreiner at Lafayette, La. . (U.S. leader) ###
Re: t-and-f: Interesting T9, Gender-Equity FAQs
The problem with this is the use of words like purpose and intent. While cutting men's sports may not be the purpose or intent of Title IX as long as it allows schools to do it in order to achieve Title IX compliance they'll continue to do it. No one's arguing that Title IX didn't have a noble purpose and even served that purpose to some extent. But right from the FAQ below: Title IX does not require reductions in opportunities for male student-athletes. It may not require it but it certainly allows for it and schools that do it can certainly achieve Title IX compliance by cutting mens sports and not offering a single additional opportunity for women athletes than what they currently have. --- Mike Prizy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is from the NCAA's Title IX FAQ page. In my opinion, from what I have read, men's track and field appears to be treated differently, with interpretations not consistent with the intent of the law. For a real head-scratching experience, click on the NCAA's Title IX/Gender Equity section. Maybe men's track is now the disadvantaged gender. http://www.ncaa.org/gender_equity/ Q. Does Title IX mandate that a decrease in opportunities for male athletes be made in order to provide an increase in opportunities for female athletes? Title IX does not require reductions in opportunities for male student-athletes. One of the purposes is to create the same opportunity and quality of treatment for both female and male student-athletes. Eliminating men sports programs is not the intent of Title IX. The intent of Title IX is to bring treatment of the disadvantaged gender up to the level of the advantaged group. Q. Does Title IX require that equal dollars be spent on men and women's sports? No. The only provision that requires that the same dollars be spent proportional to participation is scholarships. Otherwise, male and female student-athletes must receive equitable treatment and benefits. = Randy Mayes [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Movies - coverage of the 74th Academy Awards® http://movies.yahoo.com/
Re: t-and-f: Good show by Morroccan B team at XC Worlds
Rich Harrington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Look at those French names. It looks like Morroccan B team to me, though maybe there's an Algian or Tunisian athlete there. ... It somehow renders the concept of nationality irrelevant. This doesn't apply to many nations yet, but things are certainly moving in that direction. On the other hand, France has a large population of immigrants from North Africa and it's likely that several of those athletes grew up in France. The IAAF web page lists Khalid Zoubaa's birthplace as Sete, France, so at least he is legit. While there are certainly countries which recruit athletes and waive immigration requirements, I'm not sure that France falls into that category. The US has a few imports as well. I think we can be particularly proud of guys like Meb and Abdi who exemplify our immigrant history, yet came up through the American high school and/or college systems. Jason ___ Jason BlankHopkins Marine Station Enloe HS '92, Duke '96, Stanford ?? Oceanview Boulevard [EMAIL PROTECTED] Pacific Grove, CA 93950 The most incomprehensible thing about the universe is that it is comprehensible. -- Albert Einstein ___
RE: t-and-f: Good show by Moroccan B team at XC Worlds - and Ritz
The first two Americans are also of African origin - as were the top 18 in the Men's long course and the top 19 in the Jr. Men's. Dathan R was the 2nd non-African origin runner - and he's only 19. Last year before outdoor season got rolling, I stated that when you consider XC and track ability AND accomplishments that (I thought) only Lindgren and Virgin could rank ahead of Ritzenhein all-time as high-schoolers. Some people agreed (more or less), some people said 5 or 6 people had better HS accomplishments (Merrick, Pre, Chapa, Hulst, ... pick your regional/historical favorite), and some people cautioned that this 5'7 / 112 pounder wouldn't pan out in college. (In Dana Carvey's grumpy-old-man voice): They warned me, I coached 'Joe Fastinthepast' and he ran 8:53y in 1973, but once his body matured he never got much faster, and he was somewhat of a flop. Don't count the eggs before they hatch. Or, Injuries or burnout will more likely be what he contends with over the next five years, instead of the Africans. There is just too much that can happen. I didn't listen. For those who shared these feelings on the boy all of Michigan calls Lord Ritz, consider the last 370 days: WJCCC 2001:3rd Outdoor '01: 8:44y , 13:51, 13:44 5ks NCAA XC '02: NCAA 4th, beating everyone all year excepting his teammate and two Africans (Boaz and Cragg). NCAA ind '02: 8:01 , 13:50. NCAA 3rd, again beating everyone but Torres and Cragg. WCCC 2002: 24th in first international senior race. I will be the first to say that I see him going sub-13:30 THIS season, and that he could go sub-28:10 (but he won't run the 10 this year). Actually, at 24th in the World, he would have a good shot at 13:22-23, but will be limited by the number and quality of races he gets into. He may never get either of the 12:58/27:13 AR's ... but we in Michigan like to say that Tiger Woods is the 'Dathan Ritzenhein of golf'. /Brian McEwen
t-and-f: Jamaican Champs update
A follow-up on the status of this year's Jamaican high school championships, again courtesy of reports from the Jamaica Gleaner: The meet will be held after all, at two different locations from April 16 to 20. These dates are much later than usual, and will mean there will be only a few days before the wrap-up of this historic meet and the beginning of the Penn Relays April 25. Many of the Jamaican teams, of course, go to Philadelphia for that. The Jamaican Champs, as they are called, will now be held on Tuesday and Wednesday, April 16 and 17, at G.C. Foster College in Spanish Town, and then for three more days at a site in Kingston, Sabina Park. Some field events may also be contested at Emmett Park, which is near Sabina Park. There are about 12,000 seats for spectators and competitors at Sabina Park. There are no lights at either site, meaning competition must be finished by 5:30 each day. Sabina Park is also an important cricket site, and as a result it is apparently a sensitive decision to use it for track, even though the HS Champs were held there as recently as 1983. According to the Gleaner, if it rains, the meet will be canceled, because of the potential for damage to the facility. The emergency move to new locations was brought about by improvements that are being made to the National Stadium in advance of this summer's World Juniors. That work is still in progress. In the past, the HS Champs always preceded the annual Carifta Games, but this year that order will be reversed. Carifta is this weekend in the Bahamas. JP