Re: t-and-f: NCAA men's lists
Pole Vault is 5.35 which is closer to 17'6 1/2 than 16'6. - Original Message - From: Jack Pfeifer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 10:26 PM Subject: t-and-f: NCAA men's lists The men's NCAA Div I Q lists have been posted, showing the current cutoff points for the fields: 100 21 10.28 200 19 20.70 400 19 46.04 (I was in Princeton over the weekend at the IC4A, where Richard James of Long Island U. and Joe Mendel of UConn were repaid for their terrific stretch runs. James made it in at 45.96, and Mendel is the last qualifier at 46.04.) No Alleyne Francique/LSU, who, it appears, has been ruled ineligible. 800 19 1:48.32 1500 20 3:43.10 Field includes 3 from Stanford (Jennings, Robison, Sage), 3 from Villanova (Blincoe, Parlapiano, Hayden), 1 from Arkansas (Mulvaney) steep 20 8:47.44 5k 20 13:53.61 5 from Stanford (Robison, Luchini, Riley, Hejny), 3 from Arkansas (Cragg, Lincoln, Kimeli) 10k 20 29:06.41 HH 18 13.78 No Gatlin, keeping him in the dashes and relays IH 19 50.55 Rickey Harris doubling 400-IH 4x1 12 39.63 4x4 12 3:05.71 HJ 19 7-1.75 PV 20 16-6.5 LJ 21 25-4.5 TJ 19 52-11.5 SP 19 61-1.5 DT 19 185-11 Ham 19 204-0 JT 20 227-3 Dec 19 7254 Paul Terek/Michigan State doubling PV/Dec, although they conflict The women's lists have not been pared yet. JP/NYC
t-and-f: statistical silliness in Oregon
A private poster wrote to me: The Oregonian (Portland newspaper) publishes the all time state records as compiled by Who's Who in Oregon Track Field. They had a feature today on six records that are considered the best/hardest to beat. There is a little box in the article about converting times that says the following: Record-keeping publications, such as Track and Field News and Who's Who in Oregon Track Field, make the following adjustements in times: Hand-held: Times are rounded up to the next tenth of a second. Fully automated: 0.24 is deducted for races 200 meters or shorter, 0.14 from races 300 to 400 meters; no adjustment for longer races. For instance, the all-time 100m record is listed as 10.25 by Gus Envela which was really a 10.49 automatic time, and last year when Jordan Kent ran a 21.32 FAT 200m, they list the record as 21.08. Is the article accurate that this is how Track Field News converts times for records? Maybe I am wrong, but I don't see the point of subtracting time from FAT times. To me if you want to try and equate hand times with FAT times it would be better to add time to the hand times. This is indeed one of the great perversions of statistical procedure I've ever seen. Ludicrous! The 0.14 and 0.24 figures (which are guesstimates at best, but a good way to give people from pre-auto days some measure of credit) are meant to be added to hand times. Indeed the circular logic used by the Oregon people is boggling. First they say hand times are supposed to be round up to 10ths, but then they refer to tehse sprint records by converting them from auto to hand, but referring to them in 100ths? Yikes! The second question is that the Oregon high school girls 100m record has always been listed as a 11.05 from Margaret Johnson-Bailes in 1968. The article states this time tied the world record at the time. I have never seen this time on any other high school list. Do you know if this was an 11.29 automatic time, or an 11.05 hand held time? I found a world record progression website that didn't list the mark, and I am trying to figure out if the details behind this time. The Bailes 11.05 is clearly her 11.29in the prelims at Mexico City with 0.24 removed. On the other hand, she does have a legitimate WR claim. At the AAU meet earlier that year (also altitude---Aurora, Colorado) she ran a hand-timed 11.1 in both her heat and final (beating Oly-champ-to-be Wyomia Tyus, so it was no cheapie). That was equal to many other 11.1s which were the WR at the time. Neither mark was ever ratified by the IAAF as a WR. I wasn't around in those days, so don't know what it wasn't ratified, but knowing the ongoing stupidity of the AAU in the record department in those days, my pretty good guess is that becuase Tyus ran 11.0 laterin the year the AAU simply never bothered to file a record app. It's only in the last couple of decades that the NGB got good about ensuring that all record performances got properly filed. Legendary shot putter Parry O'Brien, for example, had 11 ratified WRs in the ’50s. But he also had another 7 marks that statisticians accept that weren't ratified. As Richard Hymans notes in his official IAAF Record history, regarding a mark O'B made in the 1959 US-USSR meet in Philadelphia, for reasons which are not comprehensible, this mark was accepted by the AAU, but was not submitted to the IAAF for ratification. gh
t-and-f: USOC president might resign
The Associated Press reports that Sandra Baldwin is considering resigning as U.S. Olympic Committee president after she admitted she lied about her academic credentials. Baldwin said she would discuss her future with committee members Friday and a news conference would be called in the next couple of days. More at http://www.sportserver.com/olympics/story/412207p-3282854c.html
t-and-f: PREFONTAINE CLASSIC START LISTS--5/24
Pre Classic Start Lists as of 7 a.m. PT on 5-24-02. Athlete bib numbers are to the left: 2002 PREFONTAINE CLASSIC/ 5-24 100 METERS (MEN)* 17 Bernard Williams 18 Kim Collins (St. Kitt's) 19 Tim Montgomery 20 Aziz Zakari (Ghana) 22 JJ Johnson 23 Coby Miller 168 Jon Drummond 169 Chris Williams (Jamaica) 400 METERS (MEN)* 25 Gregory Haughton (Jamaica) 26 Antonio Pettigrew 27 Felix Sanchez (Dominican Republic) 28 Angelo Taylor 30 Hamdan Al-Bishi (Saudi Arabia) 31 Michael McDonald (Jamaica) 170 Michael Blackwood (Jamaica) 171 Alvin Harrison MILE (MEN)* 1 Hicham El Guerrouj (Morocco) 2 Bernard Lagat (Kenya) 3 Seneca Lassiter 4 William Chirchir (Kenya) 5 Bryan Berryhill 6 Mike Miller 7 Benjamin Kipkurui (Kenya) 8 Graham Hood (Canada) 9 David Kiptoo (Kenya)--pace 10 David Lelei (Kenya)--pace 11 Jason Lunn 12 Adam Goucher 13 Leonard Mucheru (Kenya) 14 Michael Stember 16 Matt Lane 141 Ibrahim Aden 172 David Krummenacker 5000 METERS (MEN)* 33 Luke Kipkosgei (Kenya) 34 Albert Chepkurui (Kenya) 35 Meb Keflezighi 36 Nolan Swanson 37 Ray Hughes 38 Tim Broe 41 John Mayock (Great Britain) 42 Abraham Chebii (Kenya) 43 Daniel Gachara (Kenya)--pace 44 Martin Keino (Kenya)--pace 45 Mark Bett (Kenya) 46 Ismael Sghyr (France) 47 Abdi Abdirahman 48 Brad Hauser 49 Dan Browne 110 HURDLES (MEN) 58 Allen Johnson 59 Dudley Dorival (Haiti) 61 Larry Wade 62 Terrence Trammell 63 Mark Crear 64 Dawane Wallace 173 Arend Watkins 174 Aubrey Herring HIGH JUMP* 65 Staffan Strand (Sweden) 66 Mark Boswell (Canada) 67 Charles Austin 68 Nathan Leeper 69 Kwaku Boateng (Canada) 70 Charles Clinger 71 Matt Hemingway 72 Tora Harris POLE VAULT (MEN)* 73 Jeff Hartwig 74 Nick Hysong 75 Tim Mack 76 Piotr Buciarski (Denmark) 78 Tye Harvey 79 Derek Miles 175 Toby Stevenson 176 Russ Buller SHOT PUT (MEN)* 81 John Godina 82 Andy Bloom 80 Adam Nelson 83 John Davis 84 Brad Snyder (Canada) 85 Kevin Toth 86 Justin Anlezark (Australia) 100 METERS (WOMEN)* 50 Marion Jones 53 Inger Miller 54 Chryste Gaines 55 Savatheda Fynes (Bahamas) 56 LaTasha Jenkins 57 Beverly McDonald (Jamaica) 177 Torri Edwards 178 Tayna Lawrence (Jamaica) 400 METERS (WOMEN)* 87 Sanya Richards 88 Jearl Miles-Clark 89 Nadjina Kaltouma (Chad) 90 LaTasha Colander-Richardson 91 Michelle Collins 179 Karen Shinkins (Ireland) 93 Suziann Reid 94 Monique Hennagan 1500 METERS (WOMEN)* 95 Diane Cummins (Canada) 96 Lyudmila Vasilyeva (Russia) 97 Nicole Teter 98 Mardrea Hyman (Jamaica) 99 Sarah Schwald 109 Mary Jayne Harrelson 101 Cheri Kenah 103 Janet Trujillo 104 Mari Chandler 105 Jen Toomey 106 Ellissa Reidy 107 Jenelle Deatherage 108 Regina Jacobs 3000 METERS (WOMEN)* 100 Marla Runyan 110 Kathy Butler (Great Britain) 111 Sonia O'Sullivan (Ireland) 112 Carrie Tollefson 113 Werknesh Kidane (Ethiopia) 114 Nicole Jefferson 115 Lisa Nye 117 Collette Liss 118 Courtney Babcock (Canada) 119 Turinesh Dibaba (Ethiopia) 120 Priscilla Hein 121 Marie Davis 122 Catherine Berry (Great Britain) 102 Anna Brzezinska (Poland) 180 Una English (Ireland) 100 HURDLES (WOMEN)* 130 Gail Devers 123 Dionne Rose-Henley (Jamaica) 124 Anjanette Kirkland 125 Lacena Golding-Clarke (Jamaica) 126 Jenny Adams 127 Melissa Morrison 128 Miesha McKelvy 181 Vonette Dixon (Jamaica) POLE VAULT (WOMEN) 150 Stacy Dragila 131 Kellie Suttle 132 Mel Mueller 133 Mary Sauer 134 Jill Schwartz DISCUS THROW (WOMEN)* 135 Beatrice Faumuina (New Zealand) 136 Suzy Powell 137 Kris Kuehl 138 Seilala Sua 139 Aretha Hill 140 Allison Lever (Australia) 182 Mary Etter www.preclassic.com
t-and-f: World XC Bids Solicited
USATF's Cross Country Council has recently been contacted by a couple U.S. cities interested in bidding for the IAAF World Cross Country Championships in 2006. The XC Council is formally extending an invitation to other U.S. cities seriously interested in bidding for a world xc championship to contact the Council immediately so that the Council may decide which bid to endorse. The IAAF World Cross Country Championships are a two-day, Saturday/Sunday, event contested each year on the 3rd or 4th weekend of March. Putting on a world xc championship is not cheap, so cities that are not serious about raising sufficient funds -- a minimum of $1.2 million -- should not apply. Housing is needed for 1000-1200 athletes and team staff. Additional housing for media and spectators is required. USATF would host our Winter Cross Country Championships on the proposed course for that year. If you are interested in bidding for 2006 or beyond, please contact the XC Council's Vice Chair, Mike Scott at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mike Scott Vice Chair/Secretary, USATF Cross Country Council Clubs Coordinator, Team USA Distance Running Coordinator, CanAm High Performance Distance Circuit [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://miscott.home.att.net/
Re: t-and-f: Longetivity of state prep records
The difficulty, of course, is that states have old yard records that are often superior to the current metric ones but are often hard to find. A couple of years ago, here in Florida, the State Meet announcer got all excited about a new record in the girls' 3200 when the reality was that another girl had run 20 seconds faster for 2 miles back in the early '80s. The new record-setter was not, as it happened, even the fastest girl from here in Gainesville - despite the local headlines - since the 2 mile record-setter was also local. New records are constantly being set at the State Meet - and proclaimed far and wide - while the even faster kids of the past are forgotten. Geoff Pietsch From: Janet Heinonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Janet Heinonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Longetivity of state prep records Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 21:24:00 -0700 The Oregonian ran an interesting story 5/23/02 on Oregon prep track records which look unbeatable (11.05-- Margaret Johnson Bailes, 8:08 -- Steve Prefontaine, 6-3/4 -- Joni Huntley, 2:03.02 --Leann Warren, 10.25 --Gus Envela, 259-10 -- Art Skipper). The story said that the average age of the girls' records was 18.6 years; boys' was 12.4 years. Does anyone on the list have similar info from their state? State meet programs might provide the records. Janet Heinonen, Editor Keeping Track Newsletter _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp.
t-and-f: NCAA Question
What is the reasoning for Kristian Rahnu of McNeese State not doing the decathlon at NCAA's. Last year he scored 7531 and didn't go to NCAA's. This year he wins his conference meet again and scored 8081 to lead the country in scores. I find it pretty wierd that he isn't doing NCAA's for the second year in a row. Anyone have any insight let me know. Thanks, MikeChat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: Click Here
Re: t-and-f: Pre 5000m entries
I apologize for hyping that Bekele would be coming to Pre, when it turns out he's not. I had heard rumors from his group in Holland that he would be coming over, but for Ethiopians to actually make it to a meet requires the government issuing an exit visa, the federation okaying it and all sorts of other bureaucratic nonsense. At least Mark Bett, the World Terrible Form Record holder, will be running. sideshow
Re: t-and-f: Longetivity of state prep records
I don't know how other states work...but another problem that occurs in Texas is that there are State Records and Official State Records. Official State Records can only be set at the State Meet. I guess so the UIL can ensure the incompetency of the officiating. Athletes are always breaking the official state records but not coming close to the actual state records. Texas HS Records: http://www.texastrack.com/state_records.htm --- Geoff Pietsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The difficulty, of course, is that states have old yard records that are often superior to the current metric ones but are often hard to find. A couple of years ago, here in Florida, the State Meet announcer got all excited about a new record in the girls' 3200 when the reality was that another girl had run 20 seconds faster for 2 miles back in the early '80s. The new record-setter was not, as it happened, even the fastest girl from here in Gainesville - despite the local headlines - since the 2 mile record-setter was also local. New records are constantly being set at the State Meet - and proclaimed far and wide - while the even faster kids of the past are forgotten. Geoff Pietsch From: Janet Heinonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Janet Heinonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Longetivity of state prep records Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 21:24:00 -0700 The Oregonian ran an interesting story 5/23/02 on Oregon prep track records which look unbeatable (11.05-- Margaret Johnson Bailes, 8:08 -- Steve Prefontaine, 6-3/4 -- Joni Huntley, 2:03.02 --Leann Warren, 10.25 --Gus Envela, 259-10 -- Art Skipper). The story said that the average age of the girls' records was 18.6 years; boys' was 12.4 years. Does anyone on the list have similar info from their state? State meet programs might provide the records. Janet Heinonen, Editor Keeping Track Newsletter _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com
t-and-f: USATF News Notes: May 24, 2002
Contact:Tom Surber Media Information Manager USA Track Field (317) 261-0500 x317 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org USATF News Notes Volume 3, Number 51 May 24, 2002 Drossin headlines field at Bolder Boulder Deena Drossin will lead the USA womens team at the 24th annual Bolder Boulder 10K on Monday, May 27. The Bolder Boulder, with 42,000 annual participants, is one of the largest road races in the world, and Drossin returns as the defending champion. Drossin will be joined on the U.S. womens squad by her Team USA California training partner Jen Rhines and 2002 World Cross Country 8K bronze medalist Colleen De Reuck. All three were on the U.S. womens 8K team that won the team silver medal at the 2002 IAAF World Cross Country Championships in Dublin, Ireland. The Team USA mens lineup at Boulder will be Olympian Alan Culpepper, Clint Wells and Scott Larson. In November, the 29-year-old Drossin won the U.S. womens marathon championship by running the fastest U.S. debut ever, 2 hours 26 minutes 58 seconds, at the New York City Marathon. In March, the 2000 Olympian set the U.S. 15K road record of 48:12 at the Gate River Run, and she won the individual silver medal at the World 8K Cross Country Championships in Dublin. On April 7, Drossin broke the 5K world road record at Carlsbad with her time of 14:54. She followed up on May 3 by setting a new American 10,000m record on the track, with her time of 30:50.32 at the Cardinal Invitational at Stanford University. Last year at the Boulder Team Challenge Drossin won the women's race in 33:25, while the U.S. men's and women's teams placed third, their highest places ever at the event. Kenya's James Koskei won the men's race in 29:00, while Kenya swept the team titles. This year, Kenya - led by Koskei - again fields top teams, but the USA mens and womens teams also will be vying for top team and individual honors over the 5-lap course, which starts and finishes in Folsom Stadium. Colorado's NEWS4 will provide live local television coverage of the event from 9:00 a.m. until 1:00 p.m. For more information on the 2002 Bolder Boulder, including team rosters, visit http://www.bolderboulder.com/pr25.cfm. For more information on Team USA Distance Running visit www.runningusa.org. Ritzenhein makes Big 12 Conference history University of Colorado distance runner Dathan Ritzenhein has become the first Big 12 Conference track and field athlete to sweep freshman of the year honors in cross country, indoor track and outdoor track and field. The leaguess coaches named him the 2002 Big 12 Outdoor Track Field Freshman of the Year on Wednesday. Ritzenhein, a native of Rockford, Mich., last Sunday won the Big 12 5,000 meters in 13 minutes, 56.21 seconds. His best time of the year came May 3 at the Cardinal Invitational, when he ran 13:27.77. Ritzenhein also won the Big 12 indoor 3,000 meter crown, and last fall he placed fourth in the NCAA Division I Cross Country Championships, helping Colorado win its first men's cross country national title. On June 1 Ritzenhein will compete in the 5,000 meters at the NCAA Outdoor Championships in Baton Rouge, Louisiana. Stork Report Coogans welcome third child Gwyn Coogan gave birth to a baby boy on Saturday, May 18. William Joseph Coogan is the third child, and first boy, for Gwyn and Mark Coogan. Both are former U.S. Olympians, Gwyn in the 10,000 meters and Mark in the marathon. The Coogans other two children are Katrina (born 1993) and Margaret Gail (born 1998). Bergen sets new Masters record Kathy Bergen set a new Masters record at the Southern California Striders Meet of Champions May 11 at Long Beach state University. Bergen, 62, of La Canada, California, broke the American W60 age-group record in the high jump by clearing 1.31 meters/4 feet, 3.50 inches, bettering last years clearance of 1.29m/4-2.75 by Marylands Evelyn Wright. Bergen added the W60 American record to her W55 U.S. best of 1.34m/4-5.25 set in 1996. Remember When - LSUs 5-man show By Hal Bateman On May 29 through June 1, the NCAA will hold its outdoor track and field championships at Louisiana State University in Baton Rouge. It will be the 81st NCAA meet for the men and 21st for the women. LSU has always been a part of NCAA track tradition, even as far back as June 16-17, 1933 when the 12th mens meet was held at Chicagos Soldier Field. Southern California was heavily favored to win the team title, while coach Bernie Moore of LSU was taking only five athletes to the meet. Those five athletes, however, were all solid performers. Jack Torrance, a giant by 1933 standards at 6-5 and 285 pounds, struck first for LSU when he won the shot put with a meet record 52-10 (16.10m). A 1936 Olympian, Torrance went on to hold the world shot put record from 1934 to 1948. The next Tiger to score was Glenn Hardin, who won the 440 yards in 47.1. Al Moreau
t-and-f: USATF Media Advisory: Williams, Davis to appear on USATF Media Teleconference
MEMO: May 24, 2002 TO: U.S. Athletics Media FROM: Tom Surber (317) 261-0500 x317 Media Information Manager USA Track Field SUBJECT:Media Advisory Williams, Davis to appear on USATF Media Teleconference A USA Track Field Media Teleconference featuring three-time NCAA womens 100 meter champion Angela Williams and 2001 NCAA Outdoor triple jump champion Walter Davis has been scheduled for 1:00 p.m. Eastern Time on Tuesday, May 28. Both athletes will defend their titles at the 2002 NCAA Outdoor Track Field Championships May 31-June 1 at Louisiana State University in Baton Rouge. A senior at the University of Southern California, Williams won an unprecedented third NCAA 100m championship in 2001, just one of her many accomplishments she racked up last year. Williams also won the 60 meter silver medal at the 2001 World Indoor Championships, was runner-up at the 2001 USA Indoor Championships and was third in the 100m at the 2001 USA Outdoor Championships. Williams also won a gold medal at the 2001 World Outdoor Championships in Edmonton, Canada after running the first leg in the opening round on Team USAs winning 4x100m relay team. A two-time unanimous Track Field News High School Athlete of the Year (1997-98), Williams joins Marion Jones as the only women ever to earn that distinction. Williams enters her final NCAA Championships with the third-fastest womens 100m time in the world this year of 11.06. Her personal best is 11.04, set in 1999. A senior at LSU, Walter Davis will close out his collegiate career on his home track as the fifth-place finisher in the triple jump at the 2001 World Outdoor Championships in Edmonton, and a finalist at the 2000 Olympic Games in Sydney, Australia. Davis set a new personal best in winning his second consecutive NCAA indoor triple jump crown in March with a leap of 17.23 meters/56 feet, 6.50 inches. He owns an outdoor best this season of 16.89m/55-5. Davis ended the 2001 season ranked #8 in the world and #1 in the U.S. by Track Field News in the triple jump. An accomplished long jumper, his personal best is 8.16m/26-9.25 set in 2000. Davis, who ended the 2001 campaign ranked #5 in the U.S., placed second in the long jump at the 2002 NCAA Indoor Championships with a best of 8.15m/26-9. Note: If you would like to participate in the media teleconference featuring Angela Williams and Walter Davis, please dial (800) 791-2345 just prior to the beginning of the call. If you are calling from outside North America, dial (317) 713-0120. The access code is 64186. Shortly after the call, a full audio replay and partial transcript will be available on the USATF Web site www.usatf.org. # # # PLEASE DO NOT REPLY TO THIS MESSAGE: If you would like to respond, please direct your e-mail to the Contact person listed at the top of the text of this message. To be removed from this mailing list or to notify us of a change in your e-mail address, send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
t-and-f: Re: State prep records
Several years ago, I was told by Jeff Johnson that New Hampshire only allows the official HS records set in four specific meets. That may have expanded by one or two. This eliminated a 100 meters by international level sprinter Kathy Lawson (?) set back in the 1960's. Massachusetts has records listed in their Class (divisional) meets programs, and then in the program for the All-State championship, but I haven't heard of, again, official state records that are kept by the interscholastic association. If they're only using performances from the championship meet, they miss a lot of post season events. At the Reggie Lewis Track Center, their new record board (indoor events only) lists the best ever by a Mass. HS performer as well as the US HS record, facility records, and US records for each event contested there. Steve V At 09:38 AM 5/24/02 -0700, Shawn wrote: I don't know how other states work...but another problem that occurs in Texas is that there are State Records and Official State Records. Official State Records can only be set at the State Meet. I guess so the UIL can ensure the incompetency of the officiating. Athletes are always breaking the official state records but not coming close to the actual state records. Texas HS Records: http://www.texastrack.com/state_records.htm --- Geoff Pietsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The difficulty, of course, is that states have old yard records that are often superior to the current metric ones but are often hard to find. A couple of years ago, here in Florida, the State Meet announcer got all excited about a new record in the girls' 3200 when the reality was that another girl had run 20 seconds faster for 2 miles back in the early '80s. The new record-setter was not, as it happened, even the fastest girl from here in Gainesville - despite the local headlines - since the 2 mile record-setter was also local. New records are constantly being set at the State Meet - and proclaimed far and wide - while the even faster kids of the past are forgotten. Geoff Pietsch From: Janet Heinonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Janet Heinonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Longetivity of state prep records Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 21:24:00 -0700 The Oregonian ran an interesting story 5/23/02 on Oregon prep track records which look unbeatable (11.05-- Margaret Johnson Bailes, 8:08 -- Steve Prefontaine, 6-3/4 -- Joni Huntley, 2:03.02 --Leann Warren, 10.25 --Gus Envela, 259-10 -- Art Skipper). The story said that the average age of the girls' records was 18.6 years; boys' was 12.4 years. Does anyone on the list have similar info from their state? State meet programs might provide the records. Janet Heinonen, Editor Keeping Track Newsletter _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com Steve Vaitones Managing Director USA Track Field - New England Association P.O.Box 1905 Brookline MA 02446-0016 Phone: 617 566 7600 Fax: 617 734 6322 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.usatfne.org
t-and-f: USOC head resigns... hmmm...
Let me see, is the same person whose organization has been pillorying USATF for not being completely forthright, for distorting records, for basically having no integrity, etc, etc.? With her at the forefront of the attacks? oh, how swt it is! gh
t-and-f: Vigil brings out the best in his running pupils
By Ryan Thorburn Camera Sports Writer Deena Drossin was a talented enough high school runner to earn a scholarship to the University of Arkansas. And her running career was good enough that she was labeled an All-American. Then she moved to Alamosa, where everyone is an All-American. At least just about everyone who was coached by Dr. Joe Vigil in the Adams State College cross country program he made legendary. During his 28-year career at the small southwestern Colorado school, his teams won 18 national championships, including 87 individual titles. His teams had a winning percentage of 94.2. Drossin liked her odds of improving when she moved to Alamosa and introduced herself to Vigil and his wife while running by their house. We hit it off right away, Drossin recalled. He and his wife have been an amazing in spiration, huge parts of my life on and off the track. They have been extremely supportive ever since (that meeting). Since Drossin, 29, began learning more about running and life under Vigil she has: Set a new U.S. record in the 10,000 meters (30 minutes, 50.32 seconds), the first American woman to break 31 minutes. Made the fastest U.S. debut in the marathon (2:26:58). Set the U.S. 15K road race record (48:12). Won the silver at the World 8K cross-country championships. Set the 5K world road race record (19:54). And, of course, she is the defending Bolder Boulder elite women's champion. Drossin will represent America again this year, and Vigil is the coach of both U.S. elite teams for the annual Memorial Day 10K. She had a mediocre career (at Arkansas). She made All-American but that's not difficult, said Vigil, who coached over 350 All-Americans at Adams State before retiring in 1993. Now she is making an assault on the American records. Whoever hired Vigil at Adams State in 1965 also belongs in the various halls of fame in which the coach is already enshrined. Vigil is an educator, philosopher and physiologist with three masters degrees and a doctorate. I had no desire to establish records, Vigil said. Just to help kids out. It's infectious. full article: http://www.thedailycamera.com/sports/bolderboulder02/21svigil.html # Education is the ability to listen to almost anything without losing your temper or your self-confidence. -Robert Frost _ Sign up for a 6mb FREE email from http://www.spl.at Join the buzz, chat with us! http://chat.spl.at _ Promote your group and strengthen ties to your members with [EMAIL PROTECTED] by Everyone.net http://www.everyone.net/?btn=tag
Re: t-and-f: Re: State prep records
Michigan keeps State Meet records that threw out all the old imperial distances. But they do recognize any performance at any time up until Aug 31 of the athlete's senior year as the state record. - Original Message - From: Steve Vaitones [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 24, 2002 7:04 PM Subject: t-and-f: Re: State prep records Several years ago, I was told by Jeff Johnson that New Hampshire only allows the official HS records set in four specific meets. That may have expanded by one or two. This eliminated a 100 meters by international level sprinter Kathy Lawson (?) set back in the 1960's. Massachusetts has records listed in their Class (divisional) meets programs, and then in the program for the All-State championship, but I haven't heard of, again, official state records that are kept by the interscholastic association. If they're only using performances from the championship meet, they miss a lot of post season events. At the Reggie Lewis Track Center, their new record board (indoor events only) lists the best ever by a Mass. HS performer as well as the US HS record, facility records, and US records for each event contested there. Steve V At 09:38 AM 5/24/02 -0700, Shawn wrote: I don't know how other states work...but another problem that occurs in Texas is that there are State Records and Official State Records. Official State Records can only be set at the State Meet. I guess so the UIL can ensure the incompetency of the officiating. Athletes are always breaking the official state records but not coming close to the actual state records. Texas HS Records: http://www.texastrack.com/state_records.htm --- Geoff Pietsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The difficulty, of course, is that states have old yard records that are often superior to the current metric ones but are often hard to find. A couple of years ago, here in Florida, the State Meet announcer got all excited about a new record in the girls' 3200 when the reality was that another girl had run 20 seconds faster for 2 miles back in the early '80s. The new record-setter was not, as it happened, even the fastest girl from here in Gainesville - despite the local headlines - since the 2 mile record-setter was also local. New records are constantly being set at the State Meet - and proclaimed far and wide - while the even faster kids of the past are forgotten. Geoff Pietsch From: Janet Heinonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Janet Heinonen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Longetivity of state prep records Date: Thu, 23 May 2002 21:24:00 -0700 The Oregonian ran an interesting story 5/23/02 on Oregon prep track records which look unbeatable (11.05-- Margaret Johnson Bailes, 8:08 -- Steve Prefontaine, 6-3/4 -- Joni Huntley, 2:03.02 --Leann Warren, 10.25 --Gus Envela, 259-10 -- Art Skipper). The story said that the average age of the girls' records was 18.6 years; boys' was 12.4 years. Does anyone on the list have similar info from their state? State meet programs might provide the records. Janet Heinonen, Editor Keeping Track Newsletter _ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp. __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com Steve Vaitones Managing Director USA Track Field - New England Association P.O.Box 1905 Brookline MA 02446-0016 Phone: 617 566 7600 Fax: 617 734 6322 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.usatfne.org
Re: t-and-f: roids in baseball
My guess is that smaller parks, juiced balls, more teams, weaker pitching, etc is more to blame than roids since more than likely roids has been a part of baseball for at least a good 10-20 years anyway. Since baseball doesn't test and most professional sports don't test or test just for show then what's to stop them all from using steroids? If you know roids and know how they work then there is almost NO WAY for you to get caught using, especially in a sport that doesn't test or doesn't test very often or you know the test is coming. Steroid use is so easily masked and hidden it's pathetic. Look at players in all professional sports now compared to 30-40 years ago and you'll notice a remarkable difference in body size. It's not just lifting weights either because dumbells have been around for over 100 years. Alan _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
t-and-f: Track's revenge: new USOC chief?
Y ask: Linda Robertson of the Miami Herald reports, regarding possible successors to Sanda Baldwin at USOC: Three USOC vice presidents could be in the running to replace Baldwin: Herman Frazier, a two-time Olympian in track and field and athletic director at Alabama-Birmingham; Paul George, a former figure skater and a Wellesley, Mass., attorney, and Bill Stapleton, an Olympic swimmer who is now cyclist Lance Armstrong's agent. Me again: How cool would it be for a quarter-miler to be the USOC muckymuck in these interesting times! Ken Stone http://www.mastersdisasters.com
t-and-f: The witch is dead, the wicked witch is dead!!
Baldwin steps down as USOC president http://espn.go.com/oly/news/2002/0524/1386536.html
Re: t-and-f: Longetivity of state prep records
For Illinois, check www.ihsa.org and follow the link to track and field. There have been some great runners from Illinois. The 800/880 record has been around for 20+ years. The 3200/2 mile record is 30 years old (Craig Virgin in 1972) = Dave Cameron [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com
t-and-f: 'King John' named honorary referee
From the Illinois High School Association web site Results posted throughout the day for the 108th running of the Illinois boys state track and field championships: www.IHSA.org Live web audio begins Saturday, May 25, 2002 - 10 a.m. CDT: http://stream.ihigh.com/links/2002_0525_ilbtrack.asx Former Olympian set to retire 'King John' Craft named boys state track and field Honorary Referee (CHARLESTON, ILL.) The annual Illinois High School Association Spring Spectacular is indeed just that because of the behind-the-scenes contributions of this year's Honorary Referee, John Craft. Craft has been a fixture in the Eastern Illinois University athletic department for the past 33 years. And he may be the reason the facilities at O'Brien Stadium rank among the finest in America, and why every member of every men's and women's coaching staff for every sport at Eastern Illinois volunteer like him to work one or both of the IHSA State Meets. A Momence, Ill. native, Craft was an All-American athlete and Olympian for the Panthers. Between 1969 and 1975, he was the best triple jumper in the United States. In 1972, he set the then American record in the triple jump with a leap of 55-5 and eventually finished fifth in the event at the Munich Olympics. But his career at EIU also includes coaching the women's cross country team from 1979-94 and the women's track and field team since 1980. In the meantime, Craft added his master's degree in 1974, served as Acting Athletic Director in 1994, and Acting Associate AD in 1994-95. He is a charter member of the EIU Hall of Fame. He retires from the EIU staff on May 30. Craft has been involved in every girls state final meet since the first one in 1973, and all the boys meets held at O'Brien Stadium. Through his work and influence, the field event venues at O'Brien Stadium have been state of the art, and the continued updating of the running surface has produced some of the most outstanding performances in high school track and field history. Craft's unseen contributions to the success of the state final meets in Charleston have been spectacular over the years. While this is the 108th running of the boys state meet, Craft is the 43rd person to be named Honorary Referee.
