t-and-f: Remembering Bob Hayes

2002-09-20 Thread WMurphy25

Bob Hayes was one of my early sports heroes. I first saw him run at NY's 
Madison Square Garden during the winter of 1964, when he won the 60-yard dash 
at  Millrose, the NYAC Games, and the U.S. Championships.

I had run at the Penn Relays in 1961, but hadn't given much thought of 
returning to Franklin Field until it was announced early in 1964 that Hayes 
would run the 100 and 220 yard sprints, events that were added to the Relays 
to showcase him during the Olympic year. I had to go, and my hero didn't 
disappoint, winning the 100 in 9.3, the 220 in 20.6. My trip to Philly also 
got me hooked on the Relays, which I haven't missed since.

I travelled to Tokyo with the Track and Field News Tour to see my first 
Olympics. SInce it was Japan, and the price was right, I bought a Canon 8mm 
movie camera to record all of the action. The friendly sales clerk loaded my 
first roll of film for me, and I was ready to go. The men's 100 was early in 
the program, and I excitedly filmed Hayes' great win in the 100 (out of lane 
1 on cinders). My joy turned to horror when I opened the camera to turn the 
film over, only to discover that it hadn't been loaded properly! Oh, well.

The first time Hayes came into NY with his Dallas Cowboy teammates to play 
the Giants, he stayed at the same hotel in which the company I was working 
for at the time was having its Christmas party. I had never gotten an 
autograph before, but when I saw him in the lobby, I couldn't pass up the 
opportunity to get Bullet Bob's(lost long ago).

My final personal memory of Hayes came at a later Giants-Cowboys game at 
Yankee Stadium(a lifelong NY'er, I was a Cowboys fan because of Hayes). It 
was a great moment, as Giants defensive back Henry Carr, who won the 200 in 
Tokyo, vainly chased Hayes on a 40-yard pass play that resulted in a 
touchdown. (At least that's the way I remember it).

Walt Murphy




t-and-f: Women's track trivia

2002-09-20 Thread Post, Marty

What do following women have in common? (Answer way down below)

Marla Runyan, Deena Drossin, Carrie Tollefson, Amy Rudolph, Cheri Kenah, and
Kristin Price.
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Answer: All finished in the top six places at the nationals 5000 meters last
June and all declined to represent the US at the World Cup. Seventh
finisher, Collette Liss will be running for American team.

Has the US ever had to go down so many places to get a World Cup
representative?



t-and-f: that BBC Heptathlon game

2002-09-20 Thread Lee Nichols

Obviously, somebody out there has figured out a hidden "cheat" built 
into the game. When I first started playing, I noticed that a few 
people had achieved scores of more than 70,000 points (I'd like to 
see Denise Lewis do that in real life!). Obviously, that would be 
impossible playing normally, because the high jump won't allow you to 
go higher than 2.50 meters (1,948 points). And today, I noticed the 
new high score was 590,000!

I figure, unless tables are revised, that will be the real hep record 
around the year 25,000.
-- 
Lee Nichols
Assistant News Editor
The Austin Chronicle
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Re: t-and-f: Women's track trivia

2002-09-20 Thread Bob Duncan


Post, Marty wrote:
> Answer: All finished in the top six places at the nationals 5000 meters
last
> June and all declined to represent the US at the World Cup. Seventh
> finisher, Collette Liss will be running for American team.
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> Has the US ever had to go down so many places to get a World Cup
> representative?
No Suzy-Favor Hamilton in the 1500 meters, either.
Nicole Teter is injured.  No Stacey Dragila.  Tim Montgomery is out.  Angelo
Taylor is only on the
relays.  See http://www.usatf.org/events/2002/IAAFWorldCup/roster.shtml for
the team.

Maybe this will be a good opportunity for some of the new blood.

bob




Re: t-and-f: Average stride length ;^)

2002-09-20 Thread Richard McCann

At 05:13 PM 9/19/2002 -0700, t-and-f-digest wrote..
>Date: Thu, 19 Sep 2002 14:13:29 -0400
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: Re: t-and-f: Average stride length
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>Actually, for people in the normal range of height, stride length while 
>running is not related to height.
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>sideshow

Is this to justify your short stride length seen in the PAUSATF XC races?  ;^)


Richard McCann




t-and-f: hello? Is this thing working?

2002-09-20 Thread Lee Nichols

Okay, I've sent a message with a link to an Oslo newspaper regarding 
bislett twice now, and haven't seen it yet (but other messages have 
gone through). Has anyone out there seen my Oslo messages? Does the 
central computer that processes these postings have something that 
weeds out forwards or something?

Somebody please reply,
-- 
Lee Nichols
Assistant News Editor
The Austin Chronicle
512/454-5766, ext. 138
fax 512/458-6910
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
http://www.austinchronicle.com/issues/dispatch/authors/leenichols.html



t-and-f: Oslo, Bislett

2002-09-20 Thread Lee Nichols

Okay, trying this yet again: 
http://www.aftenposten.no/english/sports/article.jhtml?articleID=402665
-- 
Lee Nichols
Assistant News Editor
The Austin Chronicle
512/454-5766, ext. 138
fax 512/458-6910
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Re: t-and-f: dinner w/ a WR miler

2002-09-20 Thread DLTFNedit

I can't believe the IAAF allowed El G to have a rabbit (actually, I CAN believe it, 
but it's a damn shame). I was looking forward to EL G having to run a fast time on his 
own, and seeing how he'd fare acting as a rabbit for Lagat and others. The IAAF should 
be ashamed of themselves. 

I know that athletes such as El G have a lot of pull on the circuit, but why should 
the IAAF give in on this one? If he threatens to pull out of the GP Final, he'll be 
missing out on $150,000 or so. It wasn't like Parisians were storming the State 
Charlety to get in. Once you give in to this sh*t he'll be able to pull that stunt 
every year. Definitely a dark day for track. It even killed my excitement for the 
overal GP race.
sideshow



t-and-f: Re: T&F WC 1500

2002-09-20 Thread Martin J. Dixon

My first reaction was that he must have been going for it. Must have
been. It was the World Cup after all. Turns out it was a pacing job. I
wonder if anyone else wanted to go?

"Martin J. Dixon" wrote:

> Check out the 800 split. Some serious piano carrying happening here.
> http://www.iaaf.org/WCP02/results/gender=M/discipline=1500/index.htmx
> Regards,
>
> Martin








t-and-f: USATF News & Notes: September 20, 2002

2002-09-20 Thread USATF Communications

Contact:Tom Surber
Media Information Manager
USA Track & Field
(317) 261-0500 x317
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USATF News & Notes
Volume 3, Number 92 September 20, 2002

Herazo, Heppner favored at USA 5K Race Walk Championships

Victoria Herazo and Al Heppner are the favorites to win Saturday at the 2002
USA 5K Race Walk Championships in Kingsport, Tennessee.

In the past decade Herazo has won this event on five occasions, including
two runner-up finishes. She will attempt to win her third consecutive 5K
title on Saturday. Herazo easily won last year’s race in 24 minutes, 27
seconds. Cheryl Rellinger was the runner-up in 26:06.

Al Heppner was the runner-up last year to Curt Clausen, who won in 20:44.
Clausen is preparing to compete September 29 at the USA Two-Hour
Championships on Long Island, and will not be on hand to defend his 5K
title. Heppner completed the 3.2-mile course last year in 20:59. Ian
Whatley, who finished third last year in 22:15, is expected to provide a
strong challenge.

Papa John's 10 Mile to host 2003 USA Men's Championship

USA Track & Field’s Men's Long Distance Running Championship Committee has
awarded the 2003 USA Men's 10 Mile Championship to the Papa John's 10 Miler
in Louisville, Kentucky.

The national championship, to be held March 29, 2003, offers $13,650 in
prize money with $5000 to the winner. The road race, which finishes in Papa
John's Stadium, is the fourth largest 10-mile in the U.S. with 4,092
finishers in 2001.

The last USA Men's 10 Mile Championship was held in 1999 and won by Mike
Mykytok in 48 minutes, 15 seconds at the Volvo Midland Run in Far Hills, New
Jersey.

For more information, visit the race website at:
http://www.papajohns.com/louisville/index.htm.

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t-and-f: USATF Release: Jones completes undefeated season;U.S. men in 2nd at World Cup

2002-09-20 Thread USATF Communications

Contact:Jill M. Geer
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In Madrid: +34-91-453-19-00

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Friday, September 20, 2002

Jones completes unbeaten season;
US men in 2nd after World Cup Day 1

MADRID, Spain – Marion Jones capped an unbeaten season on the track, and
four victories put the U.S. men in a strong second-place position after the
first day of competition at the 9th IAAF World Cup in Madrid.

With first-place finishes from Adam Nelson in the shot put, Savante
Stringfellow in the long jump, James Carter in the 400m hurdles and the
4x100m relay team, Team USA’s men had 61 points at the end of the night,
just four points behind defending-champion Africa, who had 65. Europe was in
third with 60.

On the women’s side, the U.S. was third in team standings with 60 points but
well within striking distance heading into Saturday’s final day of
competition. Europe led by just 3 points, with 63, and Russia was second
with 62. The IAAF’s only team track competition, athletes earn 9 team points
for a win down to 1 point for ninth.

An intense, 20-minute downpour following the men’s hammer throw and just
moments before all other events began delayed the meet for roughly 45
minutes and made for slippery conditions throughout the meet. But that didn’
t deter the Americans.

Lane one of the straightaway was most affected by the rain – the lane that
Marion Jones found herself in for the women’s 100 meters. The slushy
footing, standing water in and three false starts (including one by her)
couldn’t prevent her from winning the race in 10.90 seconds to finish 2002
with her first unbeaten season ever. (She lost long jump competitions in
1998-2000 and lost the 100m World Championship in 2001.) Tayna Lawrence of
the Americas was second in 11.06 seconds.

But the night belonged to the U.S. men, who consistently rose to the
challenge. U.S. champion and 2001 World Championships silver medalist
Savante Stringfellow put his money where his mouth is by winning the men’s
long jump with an effort of 8.21m/26-11.75, beating world and Olympic
champion Ivan Pedroso of the Americas, who was second at 8.19m/26-10.5.
Previously known as much for his Superman tattoos and t-shirts and his
braggadocio, Stringfellow delivered with his first major championship.

Big wins are more familiar to Olympic silver medalist Adam Nelson, and the
world’s dominant shot putter in 2002 lived up to his reputation with a
winning throw of 20.80m/68-3. Justin Anlezark of Oceana was second at
20.77/68-1.75.

James Carter, taking advantage of the absence of world champion and 2002
Golden League jackpot winner Felix Sanchez, finished the season with a win
in the 400m hurdles, dominating the race with a time of 48.27. Mubarak Faraj
Al-Nubi of Asia was second in 48.96.

Team USA’s final win of the night was delivered by the men’s 4x100m relay
team of Jon Drummond, Jason Smoots, Kaaron Conwright and Coby Miller, who
ran a World Cup record of 37.95 seconds to easily beat the Americas (38.32).

In other events for the U.S. men, national 10,000m champion and record
holder Meb Keflezighi ran an impressive race in the 5,000 meters, leading
through much of the race and ultimately finishing fourth in 13:33.44. After
months of high-mileage training at altitude, Keflezighi’s legs couldn’t
match the kick of Spain’s Alberto Garcia (first in 13:30.04), but he
dictated the race.

In the 100m, Jon Drummond acquitted himself very well with a blazing start –
and a reaction time of .127 – that put him well in the lead until the final
step of the race. But he was burdened by a lane draw that put him in lane
one, with the top three finishers coming from lanes six, five and eight.
Uchenna Emedolu of Africa was the surprise winner in 10.06, with Kim Collins
of the Americas second in an identical time; Francis Obikwelu of Europe
third in 10.09 and Drummond fourth in 10.10.

Alvin Harrison seized the lead in the men’s 400m and entered the straight in
first place, but he faded badly in the final 50 meters to place fifth in
45.46. Michael Blackwood of the Americas won in a personal-best time of
44.60.

John McEwen placed sixth in the hammer with a throw of 71.03m/233-0,
improving on each of his three legal throws and fouling on one attempt.
Adrian Annus of Europe won the event with a mark of 80.93m/265-6.  Nathan
Leeper was eighth in the men’s high jump (2.10m/6-10/75) and Seneca Lassiter
was ninth in the 1,500m to round out American competitors (4:05.82).

Though posting fewer individual wins, the Team USA’s women fared nearly as
well as the men and are actually fewer points away from the team lead than
their male counterparts entering Saturday’s final day of competition.

Jearl Miles-Clark saved her best performance of the year for last, running
50.27 – the fastest time by an American in 2002 – to place a strong second
in the women’s 400m. Anna Guevarra of the Ameri

t-and-f: Lassiter for a Darwin Award

2002-09-20 Thread ghill

as in, he just killed his chances ever to be on a U.S. team again. At least
one that involves team scoring.

What kind of a piece of Samsonite is this guy? At the post-race press
conference (Madrid, that is), not only did he admit that he was rabbiting
Lagat, he admitted that he had been paid by Lagat to do so. Allow me to pass
on what I said to somebody at dinner tonite: "Seneca is so dumb that when he
was at Arkansas they thought he was dumb!" Less any Hog find that too
unpalatable a slur, allow me to clarify that the moron who paid him off is
from my alma mater. Aiyeee

Expect major fallout from this one folks. And if  U.S. loses team battle by
a point or tow, expect Seneca to learn how to walk on water or not make it
across the Atlantic!

Did i say aiyee already? Make that aiyeee.


gh 



t-and-f: Princeton Relays

2002-09-20 Thread Ed Grant

Netters:

A bad omen for the future of the NJ state meet there and thus its
future at all until some new facility is built in our state.
Ed Grant




t-and-f: Smashing debut

2002-09-20 Thread Ed Grant

Netters:

Lindsay Van Alstine of Hawthorne Christian, defending all-group
champion in NJ this fall, had a smashing debut today at the Season Opener at
Darlington Park, Mahwah/

She broke the course record of 17:49, set by later Dartmouth
All-American Jenna Rogers at the season-closing Bergen County MC, running a
solo 17:38. (The next runner was two and a half minutes behind). It proved
that Lindsay was more than ready to face the challenge of Red Bank's Amanda
Trotter, who is running her first CC season this year.

It was a good day all around for the Van Alstine family as kid
sister Amy, running for Midland Park, won the frosh race/

The meet also had the first meeting of Top Ten teams this year with
Ridgewood scoring a 35-37 victory over Christian Brothers. It was even
closer than that because CBA soph Pete Glackin had the race in his hands,
five yards from the finish, when he went into rigor and barely made it
across, but not before two Ridgewood runners passed him. (Ironically, his
older brother Nat, now a Georgetown soph, had the same thing happen to him
he last time CBA ran this race.

Darlington is a 3M course with one great peculiarity. Though located
in the hills of Mahwah, just before the NY border, the runners must twice
negotiate a lengthy expanse of soft sand which surrounds the lake that is
the centerpiece of the picturesque park. Van Alstine said that her legs were
"really sore" after completing her race.

Ed Grant




Re: t-and-f: Lassiter for a Darwin Award

2002-09-20 Thread Wayne T. Armbrust

Lassiter should certainly be disciplined for this by USATF, if not expelled
outright.

ghill wrote:

> as in, he just killed his chances ever to be on a U.S. team again. At least
> one that involves team scoring.
>
> What kind of a piece of Samsonite is this guy? At the post-race press
> conference (Madrid, that is), not only did he admit that he was rabbiting
> Lagat, he admitted that he had been paid by Lagat to do so. Allow me to pass
> on what I said to somebody at dinner tonite: "Seneca is so dumb that when he
> was at Arkansas they thought he was dumb!" Less any Hog find that too
> unpalatable a slur, allow me to clarify that the moron who paid him off is
> from my alma mater. Aiyeee
>
> Expect major fallout from this one folks. And if  U.S. loses team battle by
> a point or tow, expect Seneca to learn how to walk on water or not make it
> across the Atlantic!
>
> Did i say aiyee already? Make that aiyeee.
>
> gh

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Re: t-and-f: Lassiter for a Darwin Award

2002-09-20 Thread goldbu1

True patriotism.

With 3 dummies like Lassiter, maybe the US don't need to bother building a team 
next time.

UG
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Quoting ghill <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> as in, he just killed his chances ever to be on a U.S. team again. At
> least
> one that involves team scoring.
> 
> What kind of a piece of Samsonite is this guy? At the post-race press
> conference (Madrid, that is), not only did he admit that he was
> rabbiting
> Lagat, he admitted that he had been paid by Lagat to do so. Allow me to
> pass
> on what I said to somebody at dinner tonite: "Seneca is so dumb that
> when he
> was at Arkansas they thought he was dumb!" Less any Hog find that too
> unpalatable a slur, allow me to clarify that the moron who paid him off
> is
> from my alma mater. Aiyeee
> 
> Expect major fallout from this one folks. And if  U.S. loses team battle
> by
> a point or tow, expect Seneca to learn how to walk on water or not make
> it
> across the Atlantic!
> 
> Did i say aiyee already? Make that aiyeee.
> 
> 
> gh 
>