Re: t-and-f: USADA procedures

2002-09-23 Thread John Sun

> 
> >The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) has informed
> the United States Olympic
> Committee (USOC) of New York cyclist Juan Pineda's
> >positive test for a
> controlled substance. According to USADA, Pineda
> tested positive for
> 19-norandrostestosterone and 19->noretiocholanolone
> on June 4, at the First
> Union Invitational in Lancaster, Pennsylvania.
> 
> >Pineda is currently disputing the result through
> the USADA adjudication
> process. The imposition of any sanctions would
> depend upon the >outcome of
> this dispute.
> 
> Is it standard to announce a positive before
> adjudication is complete?  I
> must confess I can't remember what USADA policy is.
> 
> - Ed Parrot

It seems to run counter to USADA policy. The USADA FAQ
can be found here:

http://www.usantidoping.org/files/USADA_FAQ.pdf

The FAQ says that the NGB, USOC and athlete are the
only ones informed of the positive test(s). The
positive testing and suspension can only be made
public after the adjudication process is completed.
That's the way I interpret the FAQ. On a side note, I
wish USADA would put their FAQ and press releases in
HTML format instead of PDFs. Unless you own the full
version of Adobe Acrobat, you either have to link to
sections of their site or retype. It's not a very
user-friendly site IMHO.

John

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t-and-f: USADA procedures

2002-09-23 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot

I found the following release regarding a USADA cycling positive:

>The U.S. Anti-Doping Agency (USADA) has informed the United States Olympic
Committee (USOC) of New York cyclist Juan Pineda's >positive test for a
controlled substance. According to USADA, Pineda tested positive for
19-norandrostestosterone and 19->noretiocholanolone on June 4, at the First
Union Invitational in Lancaster, Pennsylvania.

>Pineda is currently disputing the result through the USADA adjudication
process. The imposition of any sanctions would depend upon the >outcome of
this dispute.

Is it standard to announce a positive before adjudication is complete?  I
must confess I can't remember what USADA policy is.

- Ed Parrot





t-and-f: Sept 23 D-1 Women's Coaches' Poll Analysis

2002-09-23 Thread miscott

Analysis of the 2002 NCAA Division I Women's Cross Country Coaches' Poll
by Mike Scott, 
University of Rhode Island
Updated:  September 23

For the sixth consecutive year, I am analyzing the Women's Division I 
Coaches' Poll.  Teams are listed according to their ranking in the 
current edition of the FinishLynx/NCAA DIVISION I WOMEN'S CROSS COUNTRY 
NATIONAL POLL, as conducted by the Women's Intercollegiate Cross Country 
Coaches' Association.

Here's the top five teams; the complete version of the analysis is posted 
at:
 http://miscott.home.att.net/wxcanal

Places listed in parentheses refer to finish at the 2001 NCAA D-1 XC 
Championships at Furman University, unless otherwise noted.  Performances 
are from the 2001-02 year, unless otherwise noted.  Performances at the 
Foot Locker High School Cross Country Championships are denoted by "FL".

As always, I appreciate additions, corrections, and updates.  Please send 
them to me at [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Weekend Roundup:
A fairly quiet weekend as most teams are prepping for the September 27-28 
weekend, the first of the season that count towards at-large qualifying.  
Notre Dame dominated the National Catholic meet.  Michigan State looked 
strong at their own Spartan Invite and would have beaten Toledo had the 
meet been scored.  Villanova opened up by perfect-scoring D-3 foe 
Haverford.  Michigan won the Sundodger Invite over Washington, Idaho, and 
Texas A&M.  Tennessee won the adidas Wolfpack Invite over NC State's "B" 
Team.  Purdue was the winner of an exciting Indiana Intercollegiate over 
Indiana and Ball State, which featured inclement weather (including a 
nearby tornado!) and several of the top runners reportedly going off 
course in the final 800 which led to an interesting mass sprint for the 
finish.

Weekly Preview:
In what could be one of the best "opening weekends" (ie, first weekend 
that scores count towards at-large qualifying) in a few years, most of 
the nation's ranked teams will compete in one of four major 
inter-regional invitationals.  The new kid on the block, the 9/27 Great 
American Cross Country Festival, appears to have come out on top in the 
recruiting wars.  Great American features a rematch between the top three 
teams at last year's NCAA championships -- Brigham Young, NC State, and 
Georgetown.  None of these squads have tipped their hand yet this fall 
and the big question is how many potential national scorers will BYU 
mentor Patrick Shane sit out in this early season clash of the titans.  
Arkansas and Duke will also line up loaded for bear.  Other top teams in 
this field include Northern Arizona, William & Mary, Colorado State, 
North Carolina, Columbia, Virginia, Coastal Carolina, James Madison, 
South Florida, Georgia Tech, Baylor, Brown, La Salle, and Richmond.

Michigan State and Providence headline the field at that perennial 
powerhouse meet, the 9/28 Roy Griak Invitational.  Other top contenders 
in Minneapolis include: Arizona, Arizona State, Minnesota, Marquette, 
Toledo, Weber State, Indiana, and Ball State.

Stanford hosts UCLA, Wisconsin, and Purdue at the 9/28 Stanford Invite, 
while Yale, Wake Forest, Dartmouth, Missouri, and Rhode Island square off 
in the Bronx for Iona's 9/28 Meet of Champions.

TOP THIRTY TEAMS:
1.  Brigham Young
Patrick Shane's BYU Cougars have won three NCAA crowns in the last five 
years (97-99-01).  BYU would appear to be in the driver's seat to win it 
all, returning five of their seven -- a quintet that would have won last 
year's meet by a large margin. Last year's individual fifth-placer 
finisher Michaela Manova stepped it up in during track to win the steeple 
in an NCAA record and should be considered an individual contender, while 
teammate Jessie Kindschi claimed 7th.  Lindsey Thomsen and Nan (nee 
Evans) Kennard finished 23rd and 36th in 2001.  Their fifth returnee, Amy 
Bair, finished 45th last year -- and the Cougars add a sub-34:00 10k 
runner in Devra Vierkant, a 34:32 10k performer in Kristen Ogden, a 10:28 
steepler in Breanne Sandberg, and the junior national 1500 champ Kassi 
Anderson.  Redshirt frosh Breanne Sandberg, a 10:28 steepler last 
spring), led the Cougars at the 9/14 BYU Autumn Classic as Coach Shane 
held out his top five.
Meets: 9/27 Great Amer, 10/19 Pre-NCAAs, 11/1 MW Conf (BYU), 11/16 Mtn 
Reg (NMex)
Returnees: Michaela Manova (5th, 148th '00; 9:18.49i, 9:45.94 s/c; 
steeplechase  champ;  8th ind 3k), Jessie Kindschi (7th, 28th '00 D-2; 
34:32.48), Lindsey Thomsen (23rd, 150th '00; 16:16.47; 33:58.20; 8th ind 
5k; 16th 10k), Nan (nee Evans) Kennard (36th, 152nd '00; 10:14.16s/c), 
Amy Bair (45th), Kassi Anderson (WXC, 4:18.04, 1st USA Jr 1500), Devra 
Vierkant (16:16.97; 33:56.02), Breanne Sandberg (10:28.87s/c), Kristen 
Ogden (34:32.28), Not returning -- Sarah Taylor (24th, 94th '00, 55th 
'98),
Newcomer: Shalice Pugmire (4:56.62y)

2.  Georgetown
The Hoyas return their entire squad that claimed team bronze in 2001.  
Jill Laurendeau, Mar

Re: t-and-f: Talence results???

2002-09-23 Thread Ívar Benediktsson



Full results from from Decastar 2002 in Talence at this link:

http://www.athle.org/asp/mai_html/htm_vie.asp?htmID=1380

Regards,
Ívar Benediktsson.





Re: t-and-f: Talence results???

2002-09-23 Thread WMurphy25

Got this from "Dr.Z" yesterday:

In case you have not seen the results from DecaStar in Talence, Tom 
Pappas upset WR holder Roman Sebrle, 8525 to 8417. Tom won 3 events (100m hj, 
110m). Tom had PR 4497 1st day (and 99 pt lead) which included an outdoor PR 
in the shot (15.68m/51-5 1/2 ) and wins in the 100m (10.80) and high jump 
(2.12m/6-11 1/2 ). He also won the hurdles 14.08 and by the javelin had an 
unbeatable 216 point lead. Hope to have story in Newsletter on website 
(www.decathlonusa.org) in a few days.

  Frank Zarnowski



t-and-f: USATF News & Notes: September 23, 2002

2002-09-23 Thread USATF Communications

Contact:Tom Surber
Media Information Manager
USA Track & Track
(317) 261-0500 x317
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USATF News & Notes
Volume 3, Number 93 September 23, 2002

Gutsche, Heppner win race walk titles

Marcia Gutsche won her first-ever national title and Al Heppner won his
first U.S. crown since 1999 at the USA 5K Race Walk Championships Saturday
in Kingsport, Tennessee.

Gutsche grabbed the lead for good in the women’s race after the first
kilometer and had little trouble in winning the U.S. crown in 25 minutes, 53
seconds. Top five women’s finishers included Victoria Herazo (2nd-26:47),
Teresa Aragon (3rd-26:39), Erica Adams (4th-27:31) and Debbie Topham
(5th-28:50).

“I wish my time was better, but I’ve been having hamstring problems, so I
wanted to get under 26 minutes and finish in the top two or three,” Gutsche
said. “I did accomplish that so I’m happy.”

Gutsche, 41, won the National Masters (over 40) 10K title earlier this year.
She began competitive race walking just five years ago.

In winning his fourth career national title, Al Heppner took control of the
men’s race at the gun and won it in 21:51. Top five men’s finishers included
Ian Whatley (2nd-22:36), Keith Luoma (3rd-23:39), Rod Craig (4th-24:04) and
Drew Swonder (5th-25:15).

The most impressive performance of the day may have come from eighth-place
finisher Paul Johnson, who crushed the U.S. 65-69 men’s age-group record by
more than a minute in 26:51. Johnson’s performance bettered the previous
standard of 27:53 by Bob Mimm in 1992.

Tigers invade the White House

Louisiana State University’s men's and women's 2002 NCAA championship track
teams will be honored by President George W. Bush at the White House on
Tuesday, September 24.

As part of the White House's 2002 NCAA Spring Sports Championships Day,
President Bush will welcome LSU's women's indoor national championship team,
as well as the men's outdoor national championships team at a reception in
the East Room of the White House at 1:30 p.m.

LSU's 2002 Women's NCAA Indoor National Championship marked the 21st
national title in Lady Tiger track history. In all, the LSU women have won
nine indoor titles and 12 outdoor titles, including 11 consecutive outdoor
national championships between 1987 and 1997.

The Tigers 2002 NCAA Outdoor men’s championship marked the program's fifth
national title and its second in two years.

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t-and-f: Talence results???

2002-09-23 Thread DLTFNedit

I've looked all over, but I can't find full results for both men and women from this 
weekend's Decastar Meeting in Talence, France. The meet has a website, but it doesn't 
have results yet, as far as I can tell. It's possible they're in there somewhere, but 
my high school French hasn't TOTALLY left me yet...

http://www.decastar.com

Anyone seen full results anywhere else?

sideshow



Re: t-and-f: The Times and Title IX

2002-09-23 Thread Lee Nichols

>
> People like Miss McNeill have no business in any academic instituoon
>in a democratic society. She would have been very comfortable working in
>Nazi Germany or behind the Iron Curtain.
>

Okay, Ed, you need to get a grip. While I don't think I entirely 
agree with McNeill, she has a point.

I was basically a walk-on at the U. of Texas in 1986-87 (they gave me 
some books to get around a stupid admission requirement), and, while 
I love telling people I ran track for the Longhorns, the truth is I 
contributed absolutely nothing to the team in the one year I ran, and 
it's questionable whether I ever would have. I might have broken 15 
minutes in the 5K before I graduated if I had kept it up -- not the 
kind of time that will ring up points at the NCAAs. Most of my fellow 
walk-ons also contributed about as little as I did (which is not to 
say they didn't work very hard).

The only notable exception was Harry Green, who became an 
All-American distance runner. Frankly, I don't think Harry really 
disproves her point, though -- let's face it, a kid who ended up 
running in the 28-minute range in the 10K (maybe sub-28, I can't 
remember) probably would have found his way onto the team one way or 
another.

While I thought McNeill's assessment of walk-ons was a bit on the 
harsh side, I find your assessment of her offensive and vulgar. If 
you think she deserves to compared to Nazis or Iron Curtain 
Communists, maybe you need to consult your history books and refresh 
your memory about the crimes they committed. Your perspective is a 
way off.
-- 
Lee Nichols
Assistant News Editor
The Austin Chronicle
512/454-5766, ext. 138
fax 512/458-6910
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t-and-f: X/C pre-high schoolers was Title IX +

2002-09-23 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot

>In another matter. In NY State a school has shot to the topo of the
> CC rankings with a team coimposed of five 7th-graders and a ninth grader.
We
> have had occasional individual grade school stars in the past in that (and
> other) states, but this is the first time, to my knbowledge, that an
entire
> team (almost) is so constituted.

I'm sure there are other stories like this in states that allow it.  In
Massachusetts, the rule is (or was) that if the 7th and 8th graders are in
the same "building" (generally interpreted as the same "campus") as the the
high schoolers, they can compete for the sports teams.  The obvious reason
here is that such schools will usually not have the resources to have
separate programs or even just separate meets for the middle-schoolers.  And
while I have some concerns about the possibility of putting too much
pressure on the younger kids, that is more a function of how the individual
program approaches it, and I'd rather see the danger of too much pressure
than no opportunities, which is what the alternative is in most cases.  If
the option was denied, most of these athletes would choose a community-based
sport like soccer and would never even try track & field.  As for the
concern that it affects the state rankings, that is a laughable concern.  If
high school runners are getting beaten by younger runners, then they need to
suck it up and get better.  And if 7th and 8th graders somehow end up
getting around transfer rules, that's nobody's fault but the rulesmakers.

I believe that Amherst High School in Massachusetts was top 5 in the
Massachusetts state meet a while back with their top 4 consisting of four
8th graders.  Their 5th and 6th runner were a feshman and senior.
Interestingly enough, the team had no stars, as the highest placed
individual was back into the 20's somewhere, but they were all reasonably
close to each other.  I believe that the following year the team actually
won the state meet when the core runners were all freshmen.  An interesting
note is that their number one X/C runner won the New England 400m in outdoor
track as a freshman, beating none other than future Footlocker/Kinney
champion Liz Mueller, also a freshman at the time.

Unfortunately, as happens with so many of the young ones, this was the last
year this girl competed at a high level.  But I should note that the Amherst
program is consistently one of the top in the state.  Having worked with the
program for several years, the positives of having the middle-schoolers on
the team (for both them and the team) so far outweighs the negatives as to
not even be a consideration.


- Ed Parrot




t-and-f: Title IX +

2002-09-23 Thread Ed Grant

Netters:

Perhaps an old NJ story will illustrate my position on Title IX

Back in the 1960s, a boy at a NJ HS was put off his school's tennis
team because he would not cut his hair. The parents took the case directly
to the NJ Education Commissioner and the verdict came down, later affirmed
by the state Board of Education:

Every student in NJ public schools has a right to try out for a HS
athletic team. This cannot be denied except for a serious reason.

How does this apply to the current Title IX controversy. It seems
simpole to me. The right of a college student to try out for a team can also
be denied only for a serious reason and a cockamanie interpretation of Title
IX simply doesn't quality. Walk-ons have been part of college athletics in
this country longer than scholarship students. They are still a vital
part---ask the Notre Dame football coach.

There was a sort of tradition at Villanova in the golden days of
Jumbo Elliott that walk-ons would play a role in team succes The most
notable of this group was, of course, Dick Buerkle who became one of the
leading distance runners of his day.

To deny anyone participation in sports is simply a crime for which
there is no excuse. It is my suspicion that, at present, Title IX is more a
case of punishment than of preserving rights. The imbalance in numbers
between boys and girls, men and women in sports is a fact of life that is
obvious on the HS level and in our sport, which certainly is the most open
of all to participation.

In out class meet saturday, for example, there were 484 girl
finishers in the four races, as against 670 boys. Should there have been a
bean count on the starting line to mkake sure the numbers were more even?

Why don't the Title IX Nazis get more active on the HS level? (I
know they are in some places, but not around here): Simple.. Thye would run
into such parental antagonism (and lawsuits) that they would have to run for
cover. College athletics are more distant from the home.

   In another matter. In NY State a school has shot to the topo of the
CC rankings with a team coimposed of five 7th-graders and a ninth grader. We
have had occasional individual grade school stars in the past in that (and
other) states, but this is the first time, to my knbowledge, that an entire
team (almost) is so constituted.

To me, this is a distortion of HS sports. It places them on the
community level instead. I prefer our situation in NJ where eligibility
begins when a student enters high school and ends after eight terms (four
years) of attendance. We have a school in our state which, if it coul use
the eighth graders in its elementary school would probably shoot near the
top of our rankings., But their best eighth-grader last year chose to attend
a different school in the same town; some of these girls may do the same.
What happens is the NY girls make a similar choice---are they then to be
treated (and punished) as transfer students?

Ed Grant




t-and-f: test by admin

2002-09-23 Thread Charles Wandler


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