Re: t-and-f: Interesting story
I'll take a shot and say the late Brian Piccolo. Who we all picture as James Caan Mitchell Clair - Original Message - From: Ed Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: track net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 12:07 AM Subject: t-and-f: Interesting story Netters: Just heard an interesting story while listening to (and sometimes taking a peek) at the Georgia Tech-Maryland game They were interviewing Darryl Hill, the first black player to compete for a major college in the South. He told how, when his school (whose name I didn;t catch), was playing Wake Forest, he was getting quite a riding, with racial over and undertones, from the Wake Forest fans. At that point, a Wake Forest pkayer came over to him, put his arm around him, and said how embarrassed he was by the coduct of the fans. The stands immediately went silent at this gesture of sportsmanship. I'm going to make this a trivia question. Would anyone want to guess the name of the Wake Forest player? Ed Grant
Re: t-and-f: Interesting story
Message text written by Mitctchell Clair I'll take a shot and say the late Brian Piccolo. Not to be confused with Doug Flutie.
t-and-f: list admin testing the airwaves
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t-and-f: Trivia question
Netters: I gues my trivia question was really too easy, Only one wrong answer our of more than half a dozen But, then, this was a case of what else would you expect? For those who didn't get it, the Wake Forest athlete was, of course, Brian Piccolo. Hill added that when he saw the TV filmd, he cried---as who didn't. brian's Song did not begin with the Chicago Bears; clas always tells. Ed Grant
Re: t-and-f: Interesting story
From: Robert Hersh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Robert Hersh [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 09:22:10 -0400 To: Mitctchell Clair [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: track net [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ed Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Interesting story Message text written by Mitctchell Clair I'll take a shot and say the late Brian Piccolo. Not to be confused with Doug Flutie. Or Frank Viola.
Re: t-and-f: Interesting story
Message text written by ghill I'll take a shot and say the late Brian Piccolo. Not to be confused with Doug Flutie. Or Frank Viola. Or Jason Fife.
t-and-f: USATF News Notes - 10/18/02
Contact:Jill M. Geer USATF Director of Communications 317-261-0500 x360 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.usatf.org USATF News Notes Volume 3, Number 100October 18, 2002 Four Americans among IAAFs worldwide honorees Marion Jones, Gail Devers, Tim Montgomery and Khalid Khannouchi are among the top 10 male and female athletes of the year worldwide, as announced Friday by the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF). Joining Jones and Devers on the IAAFs top ten list among women were Ethiopian distance runner Berhane Adere, Turkish 1,500m runner Sureyya Ayhan, Swedish high jumper Kajsa Bergvist, Russian pole vaulter Svetlana Feofanova, Bahamian sprinter Debbie Ferguson, Mexican 400m runner Ana Guevara, Mozambiques 800m runner Maria Mutola and British distance runner Paul Radcliffe. Among the men were British triple jumper Jonathan Edwards, Hungarian hammer thrower Robert Fazekas, Greek 200m runner Konstadinos Kederis, Danish 800m runner Wilson Kipketer, Polish walker Robert Korzeniowski, Dominican 400m hurdler Felix Sanchez and Czech decathlete Roman Seberle. Jones, Devers, Montgomery and Khannouchi all are finalists for USA Track Fields Jesse Owens Award, which goes to the top U.S. male and female athletes of the year. In 2002 Jones accomplished something no American, male or female, had done in seven years: she was undefeated. Jones was flawless with 16 wins in the 100m, including two over World Champion Zhanna Pintusevich-Block, and four wins in the 200m. Not since Michael Johnson went without a loss in 1995 one year before his unforgettable performances at the 1996 Olympic Games had an American track athlete gone undefeated. Jones in 2002 also earned a share of the IAAF Golden League Jackpot for the third time in her career for her seven wins without a loss on the circuit in the 100 meters and won the overall Grand Prix title. Jones also posted wins at the USA Outdoor Championships in the 100m (11.01) and 200m (22.35). She won the World Cup 100m in 10.90 in Madrid, and she had a tremendous double at Brussels, where she won the 100m in 10.88 and the 200m in 22.11, beating 2001 world 100m champion Zhanna Pintusevich-Block in both races. Her 200m performance in Brussels was the fastest time in the world this year. Jones won the 100 meters at Monaco in 10.84, the fastest time by an American this season; she had seven of the nine fastest times in the world in2002. In her only outing in the 400 meters, Jones won at Mt SAC in 50.46. In one of the strongest seasons of her illustrious career, Devers dominated the womens 100m hurdles by running seven of the fastest times in the world this year and losing only twice. Devers posted the worlds fastest time this season of 12.40 seconds in winning in Lausanne, and she won her 8th career U.S. Outdoor hurdles crown with a 12.51 performance in Palo Alto, Calif. Her wind-aided time of 12.29 at the Prefontaine Classic in May was the fastest time ever run by an American under any conditions. Other wins for Devers in 2002 include Stockholm (12.42), Monaco (12.42), Brussels (12.49), Rome (12.51) and Paris (12.51). Montgomery seized the most glamorous title in track and field Worlds Fastest Human on September 14 when he ran 9.78 for the 100 meters at the 2002 IAAF Grand Prix Final, providing the lone world record on the track this summer. The time broke Maurice Greenes previous world record of 9.79 seconds, earned Montgomery $250,000, and made him the surprise winner of the coveted IAAF overall Grand Prix Title. It was not his only success in a remarkable season. Montgomerys notable wins on this years IAAF circuit included Brussels (9.91), Pretoria (9.94), Zurich (9.97), Cape Town (10.03) and Stockholm (10.08). In indoor competition, Montgomery ran 6.48 in Dortmund on Jan. 27, the fastest by an American indoors in 2002. In April Khannouchi overcame one of the strongest marathon fields ever assembled to break his own world record at the London Marathon in 2 hours, 5 minutes, 38 seconds. He then followed up in October with his fourth win at the Chicago Marathon in 2:05:56, the fourth-fastest time in history, giving Khannouchi the two fastest marathons ever run in a single calendar year by one man. In one of the most highly anticipated marathons in history in London, Khannouchi passed Paul Tergat and Haile Gebresalassie in the final two miles for the victory. In 2002 Khannouchi also won two half-marathons, the Kyoto City Half-Marathon in 1:02:16 and the San Blas Half-Marathon in 1:03:37. The IAAF announced the group of 10 men and 10 women, determined by a panel of 12 track and field experts from around the world. The IAF Council will meet prior to the World Athletics Gala, which will be held November 17 in Monte Carlo, to decide the top three male and female athletes. The Athlete of the Year will be announced live on stage at the Gala. 100K
Re: t-and-f: USATF News Notes - 10/18/02
--- USATF Communications [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Tim Montgomery and Khalid Khannouchi are among the top 10 male ... athletes of the year worldwide, as announced Friday by the International Association of Athletics Federations (IAAF). Among the men were British triple jumper Jonathan Edwards, Hungarian hammer thrower Robert Fazekas, Greek 200m runner Konstadinos Kederis, Danish 800m runner Wilson Kipketer, Polish walker Robert Korzeniowski, Dominican 400m hurdler Felix Sanchez and Czech decathlete Roman Seberle. I count 9. I assume El Guerrouj is the tenth? I don't see anything highlighted on the IAAF site to confirm, but I can't imagine he wouldn't be in the group. Dan = http://AccountBiller.com - MyCalendar, D-Man, ReSearch, etc. http://Run-Down.com - 10,000 Running Links, Fantasy TF @o Dan Kaplan - [EMAIL PROTECTED] |\/ ^- ( [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] ) _/ \ \/\ (503)370-9969 phone/fax / / __ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos More http://faith.yahoo.com
Re: t-and-f: Interesting story
At 12:17 PM 10/18/2002 -0400, Robert Hersh wrote: Message text written by ghill I'll take a shot and say the late Brian Piccolo. Not to be confused with Doug Flutie. Or Frank Viola. Or Jason Fife. Or Joe Horn Or Lute Olson Or John Drum-mond (finally on-topic)
Re: t-and-f: Interesting story
There was a runner came down from Quebec called Joe Sax. Or am I being to brassy? Tom - Original Message - From: ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: track list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, October 18, 2002 6:57 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Interesting story From: William Bahnfleth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: William Bahnfleth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Fri, 18 Oct 2002 13:33:31 -0400 To: Robert Hersh [EMAIL PROTECTED], ghill [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: track list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: t-and-f: Interesting story At 12:17 PM 10/18/2002 -0400, Robert Hersh wrote: Message text written by ghill I'll take a shot and say the late Brian Piccolo. Not to be confused with Doug Flutie. Or Frank Viola. Or Jason Fife. Or Joe Horn Or Lute Olson Or John Drum-mond (finally on-topic) and, of course, the entire woodwind section is nothing without Willam Reed.
t-and-f: Drayton and the Day
Even getting guys to run 120 miles a week, they just don't want to do that. Heck, Paula Radcliffe's amazing 2:17:18 time in last weekend's Chicago marathon, a women's world record, has been surpassed by only three Canadian men (Peter Fonseca, Graeme Fell, Bruce Deacon) in the past decade. http://waymoresports.thestar.com/NASApp/cs/ContentServer?pagename=waymoresports/Layout/Article_Type1c=Articlecid=1026146537493call_page=WM_Homecall_pageid=979619472127call_pagepath=Home/Home Regards, Martin
Re: t-and-f: Interesting story
Message text written by Tom Derderian There was a runner came down from Quebec called Joe Sax. Or am I being to brassy? Tom There was an American runner named Ollie Sax. Kearny (NJ) HS, and later IC4A indoor 600y champion for Penn State, as I recall. Or am I just showing my age?
Re: t-and-f: Interesting story
In a message dated 10/18/02 12:12:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There was an American runner named Ollie Sax. Kearny (NJ) HS, and later IC4A indoor 600y champion for Penn State, as I recall. Or am I just showing my age? And you know that many of these instruments would be really tough to play if you didn't have Miracle Fingers, that fine prep 300 hurdler (42.4 or so) from Texas about 10-15 years ago. Jack Shepard
t-and-f: NYTimes.com Article: A Journey With Wilt Chamberlain Through Sport and Life
This article from NYTimes.com has been sent to you by [EMAIL PROTECTED] A little late getting to the Sunday NYT: Huey calls herself male identified, as she makes her way as athlete and playmate at San Jose State in the Speed City Gang days of Tommie Smith, John Carlos, Lee Evans and Billy Gaines, and as a coach and administrator at Oberlin (under Jack Scott) in Ohio and Federal City College, on the East Coast, in Washington. Her sexual adventuring is mostly between the lines and tends to be coy; to prove she was no groupie, she makes her new friends work out with her on the track, too. [EMAIL PROTECTED] A Journey With Wilt Chamberlain Through Sport and Life October 13, 2002 By ROBERT LIPSYTE Wilt Chamberlain died three years ago yesterday as something of a joke of his own making. His boast of having slept with 20,000 women led wags to crack that it explained what the Big Dipper was doing when he should have been practicing his woeful foul shooting. The statistic obscured his 100-point game and his 23,924 rebounds, both records. Lynda Huey, the most public of the 20,000, says that Chamberlain once winked and said, What's a zero among friends? and thought it was good publicity until Magic Johnson came up H.I.V. positive and decertified promiscuity as an approved sport. Poor Wilt, too big and too Republican for his time, never quite got his due as a person or even an athlete; his self-assessment - Nobody roots for Goliath - was accurate and self-pitying. Huey, an athlete, coach, writer and now a successful physical therapy entrepreneur, was one of the last people to see him alive; they watched Shakespeare in Love together. She still mourns Chamberlain and finds in their 28-year relationship the benchmarks of at least one woman's changing relationship to sports. They met in 1971, one year before Title IX was enacted. Huey was 24, a sprinter with perky California blonde beach-girl looks that masked a sexual predator. She set her bikini for Wilt. A mutual friend put them together as a two-person beach volleyball team. They were mismatched on the court - the 7-1 Chamberlain couldn't pass and the 5-3 Huey couldn't set - but well-matched, according to Huey, later that night. A year later, the passage of Title IX began to change the course of her story in sports. Huey continued to be ahead and behind the curve. Her 1976 published memoir, A Running Start, was a feminist manifesto, owing much to the sensibilities of its co-authors, Lisa Wohl and Micki Scott. Huey calls herself male identified, as she makes her way as athlete and playmate at San Jose State in the Speed City Gang days of Tommie Smith, John Carlos, Lee Evans and Billy Gaines, and as a coach and administrator at Oberlin (under Jack Scott) in Ohio and Federal City College, on the East Coast, in Washington. Her sexual adventuring is mostly between the lines and tends to be coy; to prove she was no groupie, she makes her new friends work out with her on the track, too. But that's not all she wrote. Her journals and unpublished memoirs have a jock Sex and the City sensibility. In one episode, she wangles media credentials to get close to a famous Olympian from another country. In the midst of recounting the graphic, gamey details of their explosive encounter, she stops to describe an illegal, performance-enhancing substance he was using. She writes: If you ever used dimethyl sulfur dioxide (DMSO), you tasted it; and if you ever tasted it, you never forgot that taste. It was the supposed wonder drug of the 1970's. If something hurt, you spread this clear, garlic-smelling syrup on it and sometimes the pain disappeared. Within a few minutes it was in your bloodstream and the taste of garlic was in your mouth. Huey knew the famous Olympian was hurt. It would clearly affect his performance on the track. Despite the massages that Huey gave him, the international star finished second in the big California meet, a great disappointment to all except the star and Huey, who knew he was in no competitive shape to win. While Huey, an old friend of mine, may be in a class of her own, this merging of sex and sports is not new, only long suppressed. It was also a thread through her life. She writes: The first forty-something years of my life were spent as a warrior, pioneering the cause of . . . women's rights, black athletes' rights, not to mention my own battle for intense autonomy. The warrior tag might be bravada. As a woman determined to be as free as a man, she became a sexual trophy collector, fearful of commitment and true intimacy, often hiding behind Chamberlain. (The main reason I never married was because Wilt Chamberlain always showed up and scared off any man who was on the verge of loving me.) Chamberlain, who also never married, often treated Huey rudely and rarely included her in his family's events. Wilt was trapped in adolescence, and he always chose legend over real life, said Huey, who is 55. He would rather be
t-and-f: Huffins gets Cal job after all
Y ask: John Crumpacker of the Chron reports that Chris Huffins has won the Cal coaching job despite lack of traditional academic credentials. Check out: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2002/10/17/SP229223.DTL Good news for fans of Joy Margerum, a world-class W40 sprinter and hurdler. She gets to keep her job as assistant coach at Cal -- at least through this coming season. More on Joy at: http://calbears.ocsn.com/sports/c-otrack/mtt/margerum_joy00.html Official Cal announcement is at: http://calbears.ocsn.com/sports/c-otrack/spec-rel/101602aaa.html Ken Stone http://www.masterstrack.com
