Re: t-and-f: what's a world-class sprinter?
Deion Sanders Player Profile Height: 6-1 Weight: 198 lbs Position: Cornerback Born: August 9, 1967, Fort Myers, FL College: Florida State In tf (Athletics 89/90) 100m 10.26 0.6 April 23 1988 Tallahassee, 10.1h May 21 1988 Tallahassee 200m 20.71 0.9 May 21 1988 Tallahassee Hans-Erik Pettersson - Original Message - From: Mike Prizy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Ed and Dana Parrot [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: \Athletics\ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, December 30, 2001 12:05 AM Subject: Re: t-and-f: what's a world-class sprinter? I did not verify what I heard; just reported what I heard. The story probably originated from football locker room banter (I can't recall for sure, but I believe I got that from a reputable national weekly sports publication.) Sorry if what I said was not verified for complete accuracy. My point was to look at what defines world-class sprinter. I still think it needs to be some one who is consistent at an OG or WC quality level, and not a TV announcer relying on a football coach and his 40 times, or what some one supposedly ran (Deon S.???) in an obscure meet in college. Ed and Dana Parrot wrote: But I think there are some legitimate potential world-class sprinters in football. I heard of a story where Deon Sanders in college ran a 100m in a track meet and clocked something like 10.1-10.2. If he did, wouldn't that have made the U.S. top 50 list? - Ed Parrot
Re: t-and-f: Bill Green
No! I have checked this and discovered that the date of born is wrong for the hammer thrower. There are TWO Bill Green with different DOB. The hammer thower was born 28th april 1960. I will correct this in the list! Hans-Erik Pettersson - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: t-and-f-digest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2001 5:05 PM Subject: t-and-f: Bill Green I was looking over the great lists at: http://w1.196.telia.com/~u19603668/athletics_all-time_best.htm the other day when I ran across the following entries: Men 100: 489 10.25 1.7 Bill Green USA 610510 2 Westwood,_Ca 810502 Men 200: 408 20.53 1.3 Bill Green USA 610510 1 Westwood,_Ca 810502 Men 400: 183 45.07 Bill Green USA 610510 2 Westwood,_Ca 810510 Men Ham: 143 77.72 Bill Green USA 610510 1 Culver_City 870418 Is this right? Were there two Bill Green's born in the US on the same day, or is this the same guy who six years after being a pretty good sprinter decided to be a pretty good hammer thrower? I just thought this was a bit odd and was curious to see if any one knows more. Thanks. Adam
Re: t-and-f: Willie Gault an Actor?
Yes, it's our Willie! Take a look here: http://us.imdb.com/Name?Gault,+Willie Regards Hans-Erik Pettersson - Original Message - From: David Hunt [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2001 4:22 AM Subject: Re: t-and-f: Willie Gault an Actor? From the where are they now file. During the 1980's and early 90's (?) Willie Gault graced the world stage as a hurdler, a reciever and kick off returner with the NFL (da Bears?). Now, I believe, he has re-emerged as an Actor on a great television show. In the credits of last night brilliant The West Wing episode I saw the name Willie Gault, Agent #2. Our Willie? Regardless it was great to see a name from the 80's. Dave Hunt University of Toronto Track and Field
Re: t-and-f: Cherono almost catches Lindgren
Who was the last male junior beating a WR? I have a name but he didn't have the WJR! I think Moses Kiptanui (21) is the youngest recordholder in 3000m steeple (8.02.08-92). Hans-Erik Pettersson - Original Message - From: Mcewen, Brian T [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 't-and-f@darkwing. uoregon. edu' (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2001 8:58 PM Subject: RE: t-and-f: Cherono almost catches Lindgren Stephen Cherono (date of birth 15Oct82) set a world junior record in the 3000 steeple of 7:58.66 at Van Damme meet last Friday. I thought Raymond Yator's 2000 WJR of 8:03 for the Steeple would last a long, long time. But, they found a new faster junior in Kenya. I believe that 3.38secs/3000m (= 0.00113 secs/m) is the smallest difference in percentage terms between the WR and WJR for any running event, for men at least. If that same percentage difference could be achieved for other events, the WJR's would be: 100m: 9.90 400m: 43.63 800m: 1:42.00 1500m: 3:27.68 5k: 12:44.83 However, maybe teenagers can come closer to seniors in an undemanding event like the steeple. It's such a short race and those hurdles take so little out of you when you are just a kid. Maybe you don't need years of training to run 63's over the barriers for 8 min. UGH!
Re: t-and-f: WC2001 results
Look for Results and you find the startlists! Here is the Marathon-startlist: http://www.iaaf.org/WCH01/Results/data/M/MAR/Sf.html - Original Message - From: Roger Ruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 9:59 PM Subject: Re: t-and-f: WC2001 results Yesterday, NETRACK posted-- Sorry to bother everyone. What's the best link for getting timely and up-to-minute results from the World Championships? Is it the IAAF link, or does the WC have their own link to results? Cheers, Larry I haven't seen an answer to Larry's question, and I'm finding the IAAF site, as usual, tortuous to navigate. I did get as far as a page headed Edmonton Championships--Results, but it was blank. In most track website organization, that would should startlists until results are available. Has anyone found, anywhere, startlists for events on Saturday; like 48 hours away? If it's somewhere in the IAAF site, could you give the complete URL for that particular page? It would be much appreciated. Cheers, Roger
Re: t-and-f: Glody Dube - Mr. Consistency
This is from Tilastopajas lists: 6 1:44.62 NRGlody Dube 2.7.78 165/563 GGala Roma 29 Jun1:44.70 -00 7 1:44.69 Dube 1 FBKG Hengelo4 Jun 101:44.80 Dube 3 Notturna Milano 6 Jun 151:45.09 Dube 1 GP Rio de Janeiro 6 May 271:45.32 Dube 1 Live Nürnberg 17 Jun 391:45.44 Dube 2 Asics Helsinki 14 Jun 145 1:47.06ADube 3 Absa Potchefstroom 12 Feb - Original Message - From: Bettwy, Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Track List (E-mail) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2001 7:37 AM Subject: t-and-f: Glody Dube - Mr. Consistency Someone with access to all of the meet results this year needs to do a compendium of the races for Glody Dube. He represents Botswana, of course, and holds their national record. Second in line for that record is our NCAA champ Otukile (O.T.) Lekote of South Carolina/BOT. Back to Dube. If I am not mistaken, he has run 1:44.59, 1:44.62, 1:44.69, 1:44.70 and 1:44.72 this year. INCREDIBLE consistency. So who has time to research this? Anyone? Anyone? Bueller? Bob Bettwy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Director - Program Control Washington Group SRS Technologies (703) 351-7266
t-and-f: Skyman now on the World Masters 35+ All-Time Top-10
Jonathan "The Skyman" now on the World Masters 35+ All-Time Top-10 http://hem.passagen.se/he01/masters-atb.htm Hans-Erik Pettersson
t-and-f: One man's show in Götzis!
Sebrle in big lead in Götzis! 01 3 SEBRLE Roman CZE 10.64942 +0,0 8,11 1089 +1,9 15,33 810 2,12 915 47.79 919 13.92 985 -0,2 47,92827 4,80 849 7336 http://www.meeting-goetzis.at/anavig/details.htm
t-and-f: 9026p. WORLD RECORD in Götzis!
9026p. WORLD RECORD in Götzis! http://www.meeting-goetzis.at/anavig/details.htm World men's all-time best decathlon http://w1.196.telia.com/~u19603668/atb-m34.htm
Re: t-and-f: Christian Science Monitor: factual error?
The world all-time list at the mile in the end of 1955: 3.58.0 J Landy, AUS 1954 3.58.8 R Bannister, AUS 1954 3.59.0 L Tabori, HUN 1955 3.59.8 C Chataway, GBR 1955 3.59.8 B Hewson, GBR 1955 4.00.5 W Santee, USA 1955 4.01.4 G Hägg, SWE 1945 4.01.4 R Seaman, USA 1955 4.01.6 A Andersson, SWE 1944 4.01.6 K Wood, GBR 1955 World men's all-time best 1 mile in the end of 2000 http://w1.196.telia.com/~u19603668/atb-m07.htm Hans-Erik Pettersson - Original Message - From: Uri Goldbourt, PhD [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: David Dallman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Malkin [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 1:53 PM Subject: RE: t-and-f: Christian Science Monitor: factual error? That's right. It still leaves the balance short of 300... UG. -Original Message- From: David Dallman [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 12:40 PM To: Uri Goldbourt, PhD Cc: Malkin; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: t-and-f: Christian Science Monitor: factual error? I think it WAS in May 1955, from memory again. Laszlo Tabori won in 3:59.0, Chris Chataway and Brain Hewson ran 3:59.8. At the White City in London. I was there. David Dallman On Mon, 21 May 2001, Uri Goldbourt, PhD wrote: Complete nonsense. After the Bannister-Landy mile of the century a954 concluded with a mere two runners under 4 minutes (Santee I think ran no faster than 4:00.6) . There was a race, next, where 3 people ran 3:59 or thereabouts. Laslo Tabori was one of them. Chataway may have been one of the two others. I have it all documented at home and am writing from memory. I doubt that the race I am alluding to took place before May 1955! Uri Goldbourt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Malkin Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 4:53 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: t-and-f: Christian Science Monitor: factual error? Can anyone confirm that 300 runners ran a four minute mile by May 1955, as reported by the Christian Science Monitor on Friday (see below)? This must be a mistake. Jesse Malkin === The Christian Science Monitor May 18, 2001, Friday SECTION: FEATURES; SPORTS; Pg. 12 HEADLINE: High school star puts glow back in the mile BYLINE: Joshua S. Burek Staff writer of The Christian Science Monitor Nearly 50 years ago, the four-minute mile stood as an insurmountable barrier. It intimidated runners with an icy arithmetic: Could anyone run four laps averaging 15 m.p.h.? The world held its breath as three runners - American Wes Santee, Australian John Landy, and Englishman Roger Bannister - mounted assaults on the mark. Experts said any athlete who attempted the feat could jeopardize his health. Then on a blustery day on May 6, 1954, Oxford University medical student Roger Bannister ran 3:59.4 - the miracle mile, shattering conventional wisdom and inaugurating a golden era for track and field. The floodgates opened. In the next 12 months, no fewer than 300 runners broke four minutes. A decade later, American distance-running legend Jim Ryun used a superb finishing kick to run 3:59 - in high school. Two other teens, Marty Liquori and Tim Danielson, quickly followed. American dominance in the marquis middle-distance running events seemed assured. [Rest of article omitted.] David Dallman CERN - SIS
Re: t-and-f: PYRAH MIKE MILLER
Mike Millers PB was 3.59.86 from Eugene 13th May 2000. H Pettersson - Original Message - From: mike fanelli [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2001 3:46 AM Subject: t-and-f: PYRAH MIKE MILLER At this past weekend's Oregon Twilight Meet one mile, Mike Miller was 1st in 3:57.13...Jason Pyrah finished mid pack in 4:06. Two questions a) is this a PR for Miller (I remember him running fast last year pre-trials...maybe at Santa Monica) and b)what's up with Pyrah? Did he fall? Start late? Allergies?? -Mike Mike Fanelli San Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialist professional representation of buyers and sellers [EMAIL PROTECTED] 415.447.6254 or visit my web site at: www.SFabode.com
t-and-f: Chepkemei and Ramaala win Lisbon Half Marathon
Chepkemei and Ramaala win Lisbon Half Marathon. Chepkemei was timed at one hour five minutes and 44 seconds! http://www.mariusbakken.com/cgi-bin/news/viewnews.cgi?newsid986140086,76937, http://www.iaaf.org/news/index.asp?Filename=/news/Articles/getnews.asp?Code=3423 Track field athletics statisticsWorld and Swedish all-time listshttp://w1.196.telia.com/~u19603668/athletics_all-time_best.htm
t-and-f: World Masters 35+ All-Time Top-10
I have updated the World Masters 35+ All-Time Top-10 http://hem.passagen.se/he01/masters-atb.htm Thank you Mirka Jalava and Alan Sigmon for the corrections and admendments Regards Hans-Erik Pettersson Track field athletics statistics World and Swedish all-time lists http://w1.196.telia.com/~u19603668/athletics_all-time_best.htm
t-and-f: World women's all-time best pole vault indoor
World women's all-time best pole vault indoor Now 518 marks over 3.60 http://w1.196.telia.com/~u19603668/atb-c26.htm 1 4.70A Stacy Dragila USA 710325 1 Pocatello, Id 010217 2 4.65 Svetlana Feofanova RUS 800716 1 Piraeus 010221 3 4.56 Nicole [Rieger] Humbert GER 720205 1 Stockholm 990225 4 4.56 Kellie Suttle USA 730309 2 Atlanta, Ga 010302 5 4.55 Emma George AUS 741101 1 Adelaide 980326 6 4.55 Yelena Belyakova RUS 760407 2 Piraeus 010221 7 4.51 Zsuzsa Szabo (2) HUN 730506 1 Budapest 990204 8 4.50 Melissa Mueller USA 721116 1 Boston, Ma 990207 9 4.50 Nastja Ryshich GER 770919 1 Maebashi 990305 10 4.48 Daniela Bártová CZE 740506 2 Sindelfingen 980308 Please send me any corrections! Track field athletics statisticsWorld and Swedish all-time listshttp://w1.196.telia.com/~u19603668/athletics_all-time_best.htm
t-and-f: Gold for Sweden!
Kajsa Bergqvist won gold in thehigh jump! http://www.iaaf.org/wic01/results/data/W/HJ/Rf.html Track field athletics statisticsWorld and Swedish all-time listshttp://w1.196.telia.com/~u19603668/athletics_all-time_best.htm
t-and-f: World men's all-time best 2 miles indoor
World men's all-time best 2 miles indoor http://w1.196.telia.com/~u19603668/atb-i43.htm1 8.09.66 Haylu Mekonnen ETH 800404 1 Birmingham 000220 2 8.09.89 Hicham El Guerrouj MAR 740914 1 Gent 010223 3 8.12.10 Million Wolde ETH 790317 2 Birmingham 010218 4 8.12.80 Girma Tola ETH 751013 3 Birmingham 010218 5 8.13.28 Paul Bitok KEN 700626 4 Birmingham 010218 6 8.13.2h Emiel Puttemans BEL 471008 1 West Berlin 730218 7 8.15.02 Doug Padilla USA 561004 1 Inglewood, Ca 900216 8 8.15.9h Henry Rono KEN 520212 1 San Diego 800222 9 8.16.18 Moses Kiptanui KEN 701001 1 San Sebastian 920304 10 8.16.89 Daniel Komen KEN 760517 5 Birmingham 010218 Track field athletics statisticsWorld and Swedish all-time listshttp://w1.196.telia.com/~u19603668/athletics_all-time_best.htm
t-and-f: RE: WR-setting non-participants
Vladimir Yashchenko URS, WR in high jump 1977 (233) and 1978 (234). Regards H Pettersson http://w1.196.telia.com/~u19603668/athletics_all-time_best.htm - Original Message - From: "Mcewen, Brian T" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 10:06 PM Subject: t-and-f: RE: WR-setting non-participants I name Samson Kimobwa, WR setter in the 10k in 1977, but boycotted out of the '76 and 1980 Games. 27:30.5 (27:30.47) Samson Kimobwa (KEN) Helsinki 30Jun77 I am curious about the status of these two WR-setters: 27:07.91Richard Chelimo (KEN) Stockholm05Jul93 26:52.23William Sigei (KEN) Oslo 22Jul94 Didn't Chelimo get "blocked" by Hammou Boutayeb in 1992, and go on to win silver, when Skah won the gold in 1992? Or, was that a different guy? And did Sigei run in '96? If not, add them both to the list. Keep in mind I don't have net access at work to check this. -Original Message- From: Mcewen, Brian T Sent: Monday, January 29, 2001 3:45 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: WR-setting non-participants While reading over some indoor record lists I perused the World Indoor Records ... noting the 3000m record by Daniel Komen of 7:24.xx. He also set the 5k World Record a few years ago ... and still holds the outdoor 3k and 2 mile WR's. The reason it was interesting, is that Komen has never run in an Olympics, but has been around for two of them. The 2 mile/3k are not Olympic events ... but the 5k IS. How many athletes can you name who have set a WR in ANY track and field event who never went to the Olympics? Include non-standard events too (because the WR-setters in the 1000, 2000 and 3000 for the last 30 years have all run in the Games, excepting Komen). The easiest answer (so I'll post it before fifteen other people do) is another multi-WR setting Kenyan distance phenom - Henry Rono. Try it and see how many we can list.
t-and-f: World women's all-time best 100m
World women's all-time best 100m 1 10.49 0.0?@ Florence Griffith-JoynerUSA 591221 q1:1 Indianapolis 880716 +10.61 1.2 Florence Griffith-Joyner USA 1 Indianapolis 880717 +10.62 1.0Florence Griffith-Joyner q1:3 Seoul 880924 210.65A 1.1 Marion Jones USA 751012 1 Johannesburg 980912 +10.70 1.6Florence Griffith-Joyner s1:1 Indianapolis 880717 +10.70 -0.1Marion Jones 1 Sevilla 990822 +10.71 0.1Marion Jones 1 Chengdu 980512 +10.71 2.0Marion Jones s1:1 New Orleans, La 980619 +10.72 2.0Marion Jones 1 New Orleans, La 980620 +10.72 0.0Marion Jones 1 Monaco 980808 +10.72 0.0Marion Jones 1 Lausanne 980825 310.73 2.0 Christine Arron FRA 7309131 Budapest 980819 410.74 1.3 Merlene [Page] Ottey JAM 6 005101 Milano960907 +10.75 0.6Marion Jones 1 Roma 980714 +10.75 -0.4Marion Jones 1 Sydney 000923 510.76 1.7 Evelyn [Washington] Ashford USA 5704151 Zrich840822 @ Probably strongly wind-assisted, but recognised as a world record http://w1.196.telia.com/~u19603668/atb-d01.htm more...
Re: t-and-f: 110mH - Stagnant event?
http://w1.196.telia.com/~u19603668/atb-m16.htm more ... World men's all-time best 110m hurdles 1 12.91 0.5 Colin Jackson GBR 670218 1 Stuttgart 930820 2 12.92 -0.1 Roger Kingdom USA 620826 1 Zrich 890816 3 12.92 0.9 Allen Johnson USA 710301 1 Atlanta, Ga 960623 + 12.92 0.2 Allen Johnson 1 Bruxelles 960823 4 12.93 -0.2 Renaldo Nehemiah USA 590324 1 Zrich 810819 + 12.93 0.0 Allen Johnson 1 Athna 970807 5 12.94 1.6 Jack Pierce USA 620923 s1:2 Atlanta, Ga 960622 + 12.95 0.6 Allen Johnson 1 Atlanta, Ga 960729 + 12.97A 2.0 Roger Kingdom 1 Sestriere 880811 + 12.97A -1.6 Colin Jackson 1r1 Sestriere 930728 + 12.97 -0.5 Allen Johnson 1 Stuttgart 970713 + 12.97 1.5 Allen Johnson 1 Sacramento, Ca 000723 + 12.98 1.5 Roger Kingdom 1 Seoul 880926 + 12.98 0.2 Colin Jackson 1 Tokyo 940915 + 12.98 0.2 Allen Johnson 1 Kln 950818 + 12.98 -0.3 Allen Johnson 1r1 Zrich 980812 6 12.98 0.6 Mark Crear USA 681002 1 Zagreb 990705 + 12.99 1.2 Colin Jackson 1 Bruxelles 930903 + 12.99 -0.3 Colin Jackson 1 Madrid 940906 + 13.00 0.9 Renaldo Nehemiah 1 Westwood, Ca 790506 7 13.00 0.5 Tony Jarrett GBR 680813 2 Stuttgart 930820 + 13.00 -0.1 Allen Johnson 1 Gteborg 950812 + 13.00 -0.3 Mark Crear 2r1 Zrich 980812 8 13.00 0.6 Anier Garcia CUB 760309 1 Sydney, AUS 000925 H-E Pettersson - Original Message - From: "Conway" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, January 08, 2001 2:22 AM Subject: Re: t-and-f: 110mH - Stagnant event? Garry wrote: Anyone who restricts the measure of "progress" in terms of World Records (or close thereto) is doomed to lose his interest in the sport. As a pure numbers honk, I've certainly had to recast my attachment to the absolute as WRs become harder and harder to find. Throw out "new" events (women's PV, HT, both javelins because of implement change) and track races which probably owe as much as improvements in track/shoe technology as they to do to new-and-improved athletes and I think the WR curve basically stopped almost 10 years ago now. 2000 was the first year since 1907 without a WR--it won't be the last. That's the"bad" news. The good news is that the sport remains as exciting as it ever was. The worse news is, just try telling that to the average sportswriter or fan. Our longtime reliance on records as the sport's sole selling point is about jump up and give us a serious bite on the ass. I agree with Garry .. Why does progress have to be defined as "records" broken in a given year .. When in actually the sport is progressing by leaps and bounds .. Not necessarily because a slew of records are broken every year, but by the increasing number of individuals competing at a high level .. No the 100 record didn't fall, but look at the number of individuals under 10.00 .. Same for the 200 .. And actually for most events ..Even the 110 hurdles which started this thread .. No WR but 7 individuals under 13.20 and 14 under 13.30 .. I would call that progress .. When Nehemiah and Foster were going at it there was no where near this kind of depth .. So if the fact that more people are nearing the barriers counts then I believe there has been much progress in the sport ... Conway Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
