t-and-f: try this

[Jim McLatchie]

commonwealth results via bbc
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport3/commonwealthgames2002/bsp/statistics/daily_results_29072002.stm

t-and-f: WIND ASSIST

[jim mclatchie]

Prior to the start of the 100 the wind gauge is reading 1.90mps. The 
athlete  has a FART during the race and the wind gauge records 2.01mps. 
Will the athlete have grounds to argue her/his case. "If I hadn't 
farted, it would have been a legal wind!"

t-and-f: kHANNOUCHI - WORLD CHAMPS/OLYMPICS

[jim mclatchie]

Khannouchi has proved numerous times (sic) that he can win when the 
dollars are placed on the table.
What is the betting that he will run for the USA in the World Champs or 
show up for the Olympic Trials Maybe Masback and co. can come up 
with an incentive!!
How much money is USATF going to be spending on developing a few more 
like Khannouchi or do we just import them???
Good run for Culpepper, hopefully he has a sub 2:08 waiting to pop loose 
at a later date.

Re: t-and-f: Montgomery's weight

[jim mclatchie]

GOOD HOME COOKING

ghill wrote:

>remember last month we were talking about sprinter's weights. Monty has been
>listed as 155, but I ntoed he looked 5-10lb heavier when doing his posing
>routine in Paris.
>
>We talked to him this weekend and he noted that he was 128 when was a frosh
>at Blinn, and is 160 now. Quote: "32lbs. of muscle"
>
>gh
>
>

t-and-f: M. Jones - shorts or bun huggers

[jim mclatchie]

I've never seen Marion Jones race in regular shorts or "bun huggers", 
has anyone else???Maybe GH has some old pictures 
in the T&F archives!   
   
   
        Jim McLatchie

t-and-f: trivia

[jim mclatchie]

A change of pace from the Mitchell dilemma.
   What 2 athletes 
who were born in the same city, hold world records at the same distance?

t-and-f: [Fwd: trivia] answer

[jim mclatchie]

/

A change of pace from the Mitchell dilemma.

What 2 athletes who were born in the same city, hold world records at the same distance?





---

The athletes were born in Bedford, England




Females






Marathon









Paula Radcliffe  and Priscilla Welch  (master record holder 2:26)

Plus Paula's grandmother taught Priscilla in Primary School.

t-and-f: cj and french fries

[Jim McLatchie]

we are really hard up for t&f when we have to watch cj and fries on the
box from sydney. Ms. Jones and home video!! oh jeez what next?

t-and-f: relays

[Jim McLatchie]

Looking at the results of the women's races. The 100 final had 2 JAM and
3 BAH, and in the 400 no Americans made it through to the semis. Now it
is going to be interesting to see if Ms. Jones is going to get her 5
golds assuming she wins the LJ!!

t-and-f: womens marathon

[Jim McLatchie]

if you want to see the result.
http://sportsline.netscape.com/ns/ce/multi/0,1511,2820652,00.html

Re: t-and-f: Tainted Iron Supplement

[Jim McLatchie]

why would a 300 pound + weight man be taking iron? maybe his ferritin level was
low and he was rebuilding so as to move across the ring without feeling
fatigued!!

Jim McLatchie
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> So CJ is blaming this tainted Iron Supplement.
> Couple of questions:
>
> 1.  How would he know that it is now tainted?  Did they test the supplement.?
> 2.  Why would someone taint an iron supplement.  I'm sure that steriods are
> expensive enough that people don't really want to be just giving it away.
> 3.  Hunter then explains that Marion didn't take any of the Iron
> Supplement.-Well, hell, according to his logic, it wouldn't matter if she
> did.  It was tainted.
>
> It just smells.
>
> Schiefer

t-and-f: suzy in peace

[Jim McLatchie]

Why don't we let Suzy fall in peace and move on!

t-and-f: Said-Sief - tested positive in edmonton

[Jim McLatchie]

Listening to the BBC radio broadcast from Zurich where it was stated 
that Said-Sief tested positive in Edmonton and will relinquish medal . 
Can anyone confirm if this is true!!!

Jim McLatchie

t-and-f: RE: something else to chew on

[Jim McLatchie]

What about the USA team uniforms A few barbs were directed at 
Masback in Edmonton in respect to the "color" of the the uniforms. "Hard 
to distinguish in non-lane races, which athletes are from the USA!" 
 Masback informed the "die-hard" fans that Nike spent over $100, 000 on 
the design. Maybe it is time to give some crayons and paper to the 
kindergarten kids and see what they can accomplish. I think the the 
money could have been better spent on developing distance runners!!
eh!!! gh

Jim McLatchie

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>
>These nonstop testing threads make me wanna puke.
>
>do something constructive for the sport you supposedly love instead of dwelling on 
>the bottom end.
>
>
>gh
>

t-and-f: problems???

[Jim McLatchie]

Monitor:
Any problems receiving mail from my e-mail address.
sent an article twice.never seen it printed on the list

thanks

Jim McLatchie

t-and-f: Re: Where are we going?

[Jim McLatchie]

> Recently I returned from England, where I was invited by UK Athletics ,
> (which implies more than track & field) to give a talk on “What is the
> USA
> doing in respect to the development of the steeplechase event.” I had to
>
> inform them – “I have no idea”, but never-the-less, was asked to come
> over
> and explain what I was doing in regards to coaching athletes in the
> steeple
> (5 under 8:35) at the club level.
>
> I attended a meeting with all the top coaches in England who were asked
> to
> contribute their ideas to UK Athletics to help develop a system where UK
>
> Athletics would award cash stipends (up to 2,500 pounds) to coaches
> depending on their needs, so as to alleviate some of the personal
> expenses,
> that most coaches encounter in training athletes. A novel concept!!!
> Note:
> Peter Tegan who coaches Kathy Butler, received UK coaching credentials
> while
> in Edmonton for the Worlds to allow him access to the UK hotel, stadium,
>
> training and warm-up areas. I wonder if he received the same privileges
> from
> the USA to attend to Suzy?
>
> I spent several days with Mark Rowland (3rd. 1988 Olympics in the
> steeple)
> who is the Regional Performance Manager for endurance events (includes
> cross-country, hill running, ultras and race walking) and met  with
> several
> of the top endurance coaches exchanging ideas on how best to develop the
>
> steeplechase event.
>
> It was agreed that there are many athletes capable of running in the
> 8:40
> range with little or no expertise in the event. To run under 8:30 the
> athlete must spend a considerable amount of time on hurdling and
> associated
> drills to become more flexible. To run under 8:20 the athlete on all
> probability must be able to run under 4 minute for the mile.  It was
> agreed
> that most of the milers who are running in the 3:55 to 4 min range would
>
> have more success competing in the steeple providing they were willing
> to
> devote some of their training to hurdle drills and flexibility
> exercises. It
> was also agreed that many of the younger generation do not want to train
> as
> hard as previous generations. More interested in asking the question
> “what
> is the sport doing for me?”
>
> I must admit, UK Athletics is trying and has implemented a program to
> develop athletes in all sports disciplines associated with athletics,
> and in
> the process has appointed several people to paid positions (unlike the
> USA
> which is run on a volunteer system) associated with the sport. They have
> as
> follows:
> Performance Director responsible for the overall development of the
> sport..
> Four Technical Directors – Throws: Sprints&Hurdles: Endurance: Jumps and
>
> Multi-events.
> High Performance Centres – Located in Bath, Loughborough, Sheffield,
> Birmingham, Cardiff, and  London with 4 clear functions
> ·To provide access to top quality support and services for all world
>
> class athletes and their coaches
> ·To act as a center to co-ordinate services and support for top
> performers not based within easy reach of a high performance center, who
> can
> pick what they require from the services available
> ·To provide sites for national squad training, and elite-event based
>
> training/research
> ·To provide a focus for performance within each region for athletes
> of
> all levels
>
> Regional Performance Managers – Located in  Bath, Birmingham/
> Loughborough,
> Gateshead, London North, London South, London West and Manchester
> responsible for co-coordinating and directing performances in their
> region.
>
> Regional Event Co-coordinators  - located by region in the North West,
> North
> East, South West, London, Yorkshire and Midlands for sprints/hurdles:
> endurance: throws: jumps and multi events to provide Coaching/Technical
> Advice in a chosen discipline.
>
> It amazes me and several others associated with the sport in this
> country,
> that the USA couldn’t fund paid positions to develop the sport similar
> to
> the UK and other countries. We just “fart” along utilizing volunteers to
> run
> the sport and expect the best from nothing (meaning support from the
> USATF).
> Ten years ago, I approached Ollan C. after a discussion with Brad Hunt,
> where I asked, “If I commissioned you to go out and obtain sponsorship
> to
> develop athletes from businesses, and gave you 25% of every dollar you
> brought in, would you be interested?” The answer, of course was “yes”.
> Ollan did not like the idea of giving 25%, therefore nothing ever became
> of
> the proposal.  Knowing how the politics work within the USATF system. I
> don’t expect to see any dramatic changes in my lifetime.
>
>  The following is a brief excerpt proposed by Mark to UK Athletics:
>
> I have initiated a group/panel to assist me in the development of the
> Steeplechase.
>
> One of the many subjects we discussed on Monday at the UKA offices was
> the
> necessity to identify whether we as a governing body could approach
> Ma

t-and-f: Marthon Training

[Jim McLatchie]

Reading the "posts" on mileage for marathoners, is like "how do you bake 
a cake?". Since '84 I have coached  twenty-five athletes that qualified 
to compete in the USA Olympic Marathon Trials. A couple of the guys ran 
in the 2:10's and seven women ran faster than 2:40 during their marathon 
careers. Not all ran 100 plus miles per week. Some due to family and 
work commitments logged between 80 - 100.
A staple diet was 24 to 30 mile runs with some hard workouts on the 
track. e.g.:
 6 x mile with 1 min rest
2 miles/ 5 min rest/ 2x mile 2 min rest/ 4 x 800 1 min rest
2x mile 30 sec rest/  2 x 800 30 SR/ 2 x 400 30 SR/ 1 min between sets. 
Jog 400 then  REPEAT
3x 1000 30SR/ jog 400/ 2x 1000 30SR/ jog 400/ 1000  (each set gets faster)
2 x 20x 200 with 30 sec rest/ 400 jog between sets
Part of the weekly scheduled called for variable paced runs up to 10 
miles. e.g.:
2 @ 10K pace: 1 @ 5K pace: 2 @ 10K + 20 sec/mile: 2@ 10K:  1@ faster 
than 5K: 2@ 10K + 20 sec/mile.
Any combination using 5 and 10K pace can make the workout challenging.

Most of the athletes ran twice per day (time permitting) but no more 
than 30 - 40 mins which  is/was
done at slow pace to get the kinks out.

Races were scheduled about once every three weeks to get a "marker" to 
be used during the next training sessions.

The only problem I see with the "high mileage" ( 120 -150) is that most 
of the athletes cannot handle the volume. Insufficient rest between hard 
efforts and not knowing how to run slow on a easy day usually leads to 
fatigue which ends up as an injury. All human bodies will break down if 
you stress them enough without proper rest and fuel (food/drink).

I attended a marathon clinic (guest speaker) at the US Olympic Center 
last year with Robert Vaughn, David Martin, Lorraine Moller and Kenny 
Moore. The general consensus from the panel was that the present crop of 
marathoners did not train hard enough. End of story!!! 

t-and-f: name change

[Jim McLatchie]

Maybe if the name USATF was changed to USA Athletics (or something 
else), then the race walkers, roadies, ultra's and x-country athletes 
would feel that they belong to an organization that supports all 
disciplines. The management of the sport in the US, definitely leans 
towards T&F. The rest!!! Ah well!!!

Re: t-and-f: suggested reading

[Jim McLatchie]

Ok GH, scan it , and lets see it.

thanks,

Jim

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I hate to bring up anything drug-related, but given the list's general passion for 
>the subject, I feel I should cite a terrifically well-written article on the subject, 
>called "Drugstore Athlete" that appeared in the September 10 issue of The New Yorker.
>
>I have no idea if it's available in any on-line format; a hard copy just finally 
>crossed my desk.
>
>gh
>

Re: t-and-f: RE: Solution for 1500m standard problem?

[jim mclatchie]

Mark Rowland - 3:52 miler moved to the steeple and won a silver in '88 
in Seoul. He had to work "bloody" hard on drills and flexibility to make 
the transition, but he proved that it can be done if one applies oneself 
to the task at hand.

Mcewen, Brian T wrote:

><<<  One potential solution for US 1500m elites who can't get to 3:34...
>
>Move to the steeple.  >>>
>
>
>I doubt a miler who didn't have a decent shot at 3:34.90 would be good
>enough to make our team in the Steeplechase, much less make the Olympic
>Final or win a medal.
>
>One of our better Steeplers (Olympic caliber) Tony Famiglietti has PR's of
>3:40.xx and 4:00.xx.  He would almost certainly be faster, but has
>concentrated on the Steeple for years.
>
>I don't know Tim Broe or Tom Chorny's PR's, or those of the other top
>American Steeplers, but Broe is certainly well below 3:41/3:59y ability.  I
>know he has run at that level in relay 1500s/Miles.
>
>It takes that kind of ability just to make the team.  Croghan may be
>retiring, but we have the three guys above and Dobert and about 5 other guys
>who are competent steeplers and at least 3:40-level in the 1500.  They may
>not have actually run it, but they could. 
>
>If you have no shot at 3:34.89, and you know it, you are probably a 3:38-39
>level guy with enough years at or near that level to know you are NOT going
>to be struck by lightning and suddenly rip a 3:34.  If you have run 3:37,
>you would believe a 3:34.89 would be possible.  But this should not lead you
>to believe you can suddenly become an 8:15 Steepler.
>
>Even if I am COMPLETELY wrong and a 3:38 guy could just jump into the
>Steeple and somehow come up with an 8:15-17 and win the US Trials, then go
>on to a championship meet and make the final, he would find it tougher than
>the 1500 final.
>
>The Steeple has alleged teenagers running sub-8:00 and a bunch from Morocco
>and Kenya that make a white guy in the top-ten (in any race) a rare
>occurrence.
>
>
>/Brian McEwen
>
>-Original Message-
>From: Chapman, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 11:28 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: t-and-f: RE: Solution for 1500m standard problem?
>
>
>One potential solution for US 1500m elites who can't get to 3:34...
>
>Move to the steeple.
>
>We've had 3 (or more) athletes run the A standard ***at the US champs/Oly
>Trials*** for as long as I can remember.
>
>Some may think that is a cop-out, but the last time I checked, an Oly  medal
>in the SC is worth just as much as a medal in the 1500m.  Brian Diemer told
>me so, so it has to be true!!!
>
>RC
>
>-Original Message-
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 11:00 AM
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Subject: t-and-f: 1500 meter standards for IAAF Worlds
>
>
>Lowering the standard may encourage athletes to strive higher, but the 
>problem since 1989 has usually been that we have not been able to produce 
>three athletes to run under the standard.  Thus at the Nationals, the winner
>
>may or may not have the standard, and someone in 4th or higher is waiting to
>
>see if they get to go.  
>
>Bottom line:  With the standard so stiff, why try and peak for the USATF 
>championships, when the people who will go to the Worlds are those that race
>
>in Europe?  Make the final, jog around the track at 64 pace, and run 3:45.  
>Peak to run fast in mid-July to get the standard.  
>
>Other thought:  With the 1500m standard so strong, what is the 5k and 10k 
>standards?  They have to be as stiff (13:15? 27:45?).  
>
>I benefited both ways from someone not running the A standard.  But it was 
>difficult to stay focused when I did not know for sure if I was going.  Can 
>this lead to some pre-selections being made in the future?  I have always 
>thought that if you showed fitness, and had the A standard in the time frame
>
>allocated by the IAAF, you should be preselected with the understanding that
>
>you would race in the USATF meet. Then, you could train to peak at the 
>correct time, which is what was most important to me.  
>
>Jim Spivey
>[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Vanderbilt Women's cross-country
>& assistant track coach
>

Re: t-and-f: Regina Jacobs' Web site

[jim mclatchie]

DO YOU THINK SHE WILL TELL US "WHAT TYPE OF TRAINING" FLOYD IS DOING!!!

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>Greetings, all
>
>Regina Jacobs' Web site is up at last at: http://www.regina-jacobs.com/
>
>Very rudimentary site with bio, a few photos, diary entries by herself and 
>her dog Floyd, and a few links and such. But she needs to list an e-mail 
>address for contacting her -- at least a webmaster's address.
>
>Ken Stone
>http://www.masterstrack.com
>
>

t-and-f: USADA - Who monitors the positives

[Jim McLatchie]

Desiree Owens was handed a 2 year suspension for taking an illegal
substance. Since the suspension she has competed and won 2 road races.
What is the ruling, and who is supposed to be monitoring the athletes
when they fail such a test???

Thanks,

Jim McLatchie

t-and-f: frank shorter gives award to USADA athlete tested positive

[jim mclatchie]

-

 

In a related development, local elite runner Desiree Owen, the initial
overall female winner at the Bayou City Classic, has been disqualified from
the results based on information obtained from USA Track and Field (USATF)
at the conclusion of the race.  As reported in last week's Houston
Chronicle and in a press release by the United States Anti-Doping Agency
(USADA), Owen tested positive during an out-of competition drug test on
January 2, 2002 for the use of androstendione, a prohibited anabolic
steroid.  Use of androstendione is prohibited under the International
Amateur Athletic Federation (IAAF) rules.

According to the USADA, Owen is suspended for two years from competition,
which is the maximum sanction in accordance with the IAAF rules.  USATF,
the national governing body for the sports of track and field and road
racing, will carry out the sanction which began on February 5, 2002. She is
also disqualified from any results obtained since January 2, 2002, the date
of the initial testing. 

Interesting to note that in addition to Owen's initial and apparent victory
at the Bayou City race she was also the overall female winner at the Conoco
Rodeo Run on February 9, four days after the sanctioning took effect.  No
word yet on what the Conoco race officials plan to do regarding her
victory, cowboy hat and the plane tickets she won.  Second place at Conoco
was Jody Hawkins from Richmond, TX.

Also interesting to note that Owen was presented her Conoco winnings by
Olympic gold medalist Frank Shorter, who also happens to be the chairman of
the U.S. Anti-Doping Agency.

Re: t-and-f: Marion Jones wins Jesse Owens Intl. not US version

[Jim McLatchie]

Could not win the US version, but won the International version. Huhm!!!
Post, Marty wrote:

> The award will be presented Feb. 8." 
> 
> 
> 
> Marty Post
> Senior Editor
> Runner's World Magazine
> www.runnersworld.com
> 
> 
> 
> 

t-and-f: [Fwd: NEW VIRUS WARNING]

[Jim McLatchie]

 Original Message 

Subject: NEW VIRUS WARNINGDate: Mon, 12 Feb 2001 19:42:11 +From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



http://www.ca.com/press/2001/02/sst_worm.htm

http:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Re: t-and-f: SACTO TRIALS: GOOD & NOT SO GOOD

[Jim McLatchie]

move the dates of the olympic games to allow recovery from the 26 mile jaunt. 

Tom Derderian wrote:
000801c09d32$70a103e0$8e04f7a5@planetb">What would it take to have the marathons in Sacramento with the tracktrials?Tom D.- Original Message -From: John Lunn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: mike fanelli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 6:40 PMSubject: Re: t-and-f: SACTO TRIALS: GOOD & NOT SO GOOD
  Mike,That part was fun. Everyone around us in good spirits after we all shifted
down
a row, or was it up a row? By the time you got a couple of hot dogs and
  went to
  the boys room a couple of times, you were friends.In my book they don't need to change anything and I'll return.JLmike fanelli wrote:The good news is that the Trials will be back in Sacto in '04...the bad
  news
  is that the Trials are back in Sacto in '04. While I am pleased to have
  the
  Trials in my Northern California backyard and by most accounts, last
  year's
  meet was outstanding, the seating situation basically sucked. By this I
  mean
  that the seating was so jam packed that once you made it to your seat,
  you
  were stuck. Getting up for a "beverage" or pit stop was damn nearimpossible...am hoping that the seating and enter/exit procedures areimproved down the road.-MF*Mike FanelliSan Francisco Bay Area Real Estate Specialistprofessional representation of buyers and sellers[EMAIL PROTECTED]415.447.6254or visit my web site at:www.SFabode.com
  
  

t-and-f: why not 3000m rather than 300M

[Jim McLatchie]

I bet more people would pay to see Jones run the legit distance of 3000M 
rather than some obscure 300M distance. Maybe we could stir up some 
interest in an attempt to break the world record for most beers 
consumed  at a track meet, who knows even Gary Hill might compete!!!


Jim McLatchie

t-and-f: DGs and his scriptures

[Jim McLatchie]

DGS needs to leave the scriptures off his comments.
If he/we need spiritual uplifting then another avenue of information needs
to be explored. Of course, anytime his name pops up one can always -
DELETE, DELETE

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]">Who took the bronze in that race?  And what was the time?  I know Joe and 
Carl, but who took third?
Faith is a road seldom traveledLet us run with patience the race that is set before us, looking unto Jesus, 
the author and finisher of our faith" Hebrews 12: 1-2
  

t-and-f: [Fwd: FW: Virus alert/worst ever according to CNN]

[Jim McLatchie]

 Original Message 

Subject: FW: Virus alert/worst ever according to CNNDate: Fri, 4 May 2001 09:50:24 -0700From: "honikman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>To: "Linda Honikman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



I received this 
last night- I hope its helpful.
Basil 
Honikman
 
 
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  has yet> been developed. This virus simply destroys Sector Zero from the hard 
  disk,> where vital information for its functioning are stored. This virus 
  acts in> the  following manner: It sends itself automatically to 
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  supposed> virtual card is opened, the computer freezes so that the user has 
  toreboot.> When the ctrl+alt+del keys or the reset button are pressed, the 
  virus> destroys Sector Zero, thus permanently destroying the hard disk. 
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  to news> broadcast by CNN ( www.cnn.com 
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  this mail to all> your friends and co-workers. Forward  this 
  to  everyone in your address> book.I would rather receive this 25 times than not at all.>> Also: Intel announced that a new and very  destructive 
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  > 
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  ---  

t-and-f: heat training

[Jim McLatchie]

Fast twitch/slow twitch -  good comments, but as one gets older, any 
twitches will be ok just to get ones ass in gear in the am.
Any comments on heat training, and intake of sodium (salt) to replace 
sweat loss?
Down here in the Houston area one has to be careful with fluid intake as 
dehydration is waiting to nab you. I have recommended upping salt intake 
to several athletes who suffer from cramps during the summer months. 
This seems to alleviate some of the symptoms. During the winter months 
the problem is not so acute. Of course the best solution would be to 
move out of Houston, but not always feasible for some athletes who ran 
exceedingly well  despite the heat. 

Thanks,
Jim McLatchie

t-and-f: pre 100

[Jim McLatchie]

10 min of good TV time devoted to the 100 with false starts et.al. John
Drummond should have been DQ'd for not displaying all of his number (Pre
Classic was not visible). Maybe he paid his own way???

Re: t-and-f: half-joking thought about Webb...

[Jim McLatchie]

do you think a college would pay his education if he fell to maladies 
that you outline below??
Mcewen, Brian T wrote:

> <<< He's already of international caliber. He could certainly get Nike or
> someone to offer to pay his tuition whenever he does decide to go to
> school in exchange for sponsorship. >>>
> 
> 
> One reason might be that if he blows out his Achilles or gets cancer or has
> an auto accident and can never run again ... Nike won't pay anything for him
> to attend College when he is 30.
> 
> College expenses for U. of M. out-of-state must be $90-120,000 for four
> years.  
> 
> He may hit his prime between 22 and 28 (like most people) and being in the
> restrictive confines of college competition from 18-22 may be the "best"
> thing for his development (I don't know this, but it's possible).
> 
> If he improved just mildly (3:35, 3:34, 3:32 by 2004), the he could "go pro"
> after junior year (like football and basketball) with much less downside
> risk.  He would also have a better shot at finishing whatever degree he had
> started.
> 
>  
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: P.F.Talbot [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2001 12:04 PM
> To: Track list
> Subject: t-and-f: half-joking thought about Webb...
> 
> 
> 
> why should he go to college and run?
> 
> He has a coach who has already gotten him to 3:53 as an 18 year-old.
> He's already of international caliber. He could certainly get Nike or
> someone to offer to pay his tuition whenever he does decide to go to
> school in exchange for sponsorship. He could probably make some living
> wages (or perhaps much, much beter)  through appearence fees while he has
> marketing value as a young sensation. He could be a "full-time" runner
> while in his prime developing years.
> 
> I'm not saying the shouldn't go to Michigan next year, but I raise the
> question because it is a peculiarity of the U.S. system.  Would any other
> kid in the world leave his coach at 18 after running 3:53 (except maybe
> to be part of nationally funded training camps)?  Would Coe have
> done what he did had he left his Dad at 18?  Is Borzakovsky missing
> anything by bypassing a US scholarship?  Would it happen anywhere but
> in the U.S./Canada?
> 
> Just some questions to ponder and in many ways this is more a hypothetical
> question than about Webb in particular.  It has become an unquestioned
> norm for kids to use the college system that I wonder if any Americans
> ever think about trying an alternate route.
> 
> ***
> Paul Talbot
> Department of Geography/
> Institute of Behavioral Science
> University of Colorado, Boulder
> Boulder CO 80309-0260
> (303) 492-3248
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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> 

t-and-f: usatf - volunteers

[Jim McLatchie]

If one looks around they will see that there is a lack of young 
officials working track meets. Running clubs have a tough time getting 
athletes to compete after their college eligibility has ended. The youth 
of today is completely different from what it was in the seventies and 
eighties. I have watched kids compete through the high school and 
college scene and then disappear. Our local club has approximately 60 
members of which the majority have been associated with the club for a 
period of more than 15 years. In the age group 20-29 we are lucky if we 
have half dozen.
One will hear periodically "we need someone to volunteer." If you look 
at the volunteers, its the same old faces. "How many people want to give 
up 'their' time to get slapped up side the head by the paid few?" Nearly 
all of the committees within USATF are run by "non-paid" personnel, and 
though the intentions of the majority is to do the best for the 
discipline that they are associated with. In most cases it is a uphill 
battle due to the fact that there is no funding available to develop a 
"grassroots" system, development camps or specialized training.
After a while the volunteer gets burned out and "says to hell with it."
Maybe we need to subsidize the personnel who volunteer their time to run 
committees, sub-committees and coach.

What do you think