t-and-f: DNFs: a growing trend?

2001-08-25 Thread Sandrak

Are there any statistics about the historical occurrence of DNFs in track
and field? (leaving aside rabbits)

Is it my imagination, or are they on the increase? The comment I knew I
wasn't going to win (or move on to the final), so why bother? seems to have
come up more frequently in the past few years. This is often couched in the
'why-bother-risking-(further)-injury' concept.  If DNFs are on the increase,
does it say something about a change in psychology among athletes or in the
culture of (professional) athletics?  Or sports in general. Or 'society' in
general (though it would be interesting to see if there are cross-cultural
differences in the rate of bailing a race).

Sandra






Re: t-and-f: DNFs: a growing trend?

2001-08-25 Thread Tom Derderian

Intriguing question: Let me suggest that if the reason for running is to
make money, DNF often makes sense, but if the reason is to prove how tough
you are, DNF is failure.
Tom Derderian
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 Are there any statistics about the historical occurrence of DNFs in track
 and field? (leaving aside rabbits)

 Is it my imagination, or are they on the increase? The comment I knew I
 wasn't going to win (or move on to the final), so why bother? seems to
have
 come up more frequently in the past few years. This is often couched in
the
 'why-bother-risking-(further)-injury' concept.  If DNFs are on the
increase,
 does it say something about a change in psychology among athletes or in
the
 culture of (professional) athletics?  Or sports in general. Or 'society'
in
 general (though it would be interesting to see if there are cross-cultural
 differences in the rate of bailing a race).

 Sandra







Re: t-and-f: DNFs: a growing trend?

2001-08-25 Thread JimRTimes


In a message dated 8/25/01 9:18:51 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Let me suggest that if the reason for running is to
make money, DNF often makes sense, but if the reason is to prove how tough
you are, DNF is failure.

I remember some great runner back in the 70s saying I NEVER drop out of a 
race, no matter how bad I'm hurting. Once you do it, it becomes easier each 
time. Interesting in light of Suzy FH's latest travails.

Jim Gerweck
Running Times



Re: t-and-f: DNFs: a growing trend?

2001-08-25 Thread koala

On Sat, 25 Aug 2001 23:34:01 EDT, you wrote:

I remember some great runner back in the 70s saying I NEVER drop out of a 
race, no matter how bad I'm hurting. Once you do it, it becomes easier each 
time. Interesting in light of Suzy FH's latest travails.

Jim Gerweck
Running Times

And a thousand high school coaches have passed down that wisdom
every since.
...in their best Winston Churchill voice never give up!...never surrender!...
battle them on the beaches!...battle them in the air!...

Yes, it can become habit forming, but I tend to think an occasional
DNF is not so bad, if worsening of an injury or 'laying you up' for
seveal weeks would be the result of continuing.
As long as it doesn't become a trend, and a bad habit.
Two DNF's in a row is an indicator...perhaps sitting out a few
weeks to recuperate and get therapy would be better that DNFing
time after time.

RT