t-and-f: Naoko Takahashi interview after Berlin

2001-09-30 Thread K Ken Nakamura

Here is the excerpts from Naoko Takahashi's interview after she became the
first woman to run under magical 2:20 barrier in the marathon in Berlin
(from Asahi newspaper)


Where did you thought you will set the record.
Naoko:  When I went through the half way, I thought sub 2:20 was possible. 

Was there any difficult moment during the race? 
Naoko:  It was the great course.  Because of the help I got from my pacers
and guards it was easy to run.  The rain also kept my body from
overheating.  However, head wind bothered me.  Even as the course wind
through the street of Berlin, the wind was always against me.  

We heard you trained extremely hard.  How much distance did you run? 
Naoko:  Even on the long training day, it was no more than 70-80Km a day. 
I knew that if I don't do this training, good results will not follow. 

Koide:  Our goal was to run 2:18:32.  However, because of the head wind
during the first 5Km, I think she lost 20 seconds.  

Naoko:  The final 2Km was very hard for me. 

Koide:  If she train for the final 2Km, then she can cut another 1 minute
from the record.  

Now, I would like to solicit opinions (which this list is never short on).

What is the significance of first sub 2:20?  

Now that Takahashi became the first to break 2:20 in addition to being the
reigning 
Olympic champion.  
What is her place in the all-time great list, say compared to Mota, Benoit,
Waitz or Kristiansen.  
She is far ahead of her comtemporary, but what about compared to the best
of the past?  

K. Ken Nakamura 



Re: t-and-f: Naoko Takahashi interview after Berlin

2001-09-30 Thread Tom Derderian

I read the interview Ken kindly sent along.  It I saw:

"It was the great course.  Because of the help I got from my pacers
> and guards it was easy to run. "

Then Ken asks,

Now, I would like to solicit opinions (which this list is never short on).

What is the significance of first sub 2:20?

I think the list will comment on the use of pacers and guards. Is such use
really racing?  Or do we see the sub 2:20 as an interesting time trial and
Takahashi's Olympic victory as a "real" race.
Those are my unguarded remarks.
Tom Derderian




Re: t-and-f: Naoko Takahashi interview after Berlin

2001-09-30 Thread Ed and Dana Parrot

> What is the significance of first sub 2:20?
>
> I think the list will comment on the use of pacers and guards. Is such use
> really racing?  Or do we see the sub 2:20 as an interesting time trial and
> Takahashi's Olympic victory as a "real" race.
> Those are my unguarded remarks.

We view the sub-2:20 as what it is - the fastest time ever by a woman.  A
great accomplishment.  Should we keep separate lists for mixed gender races,
women's only races, and maybe even semi-women's only races like London?
Sure, if people will read them.  I'd look at them and move on to reading the
results of competitions, where margins of victory, notable names, and race
reports keep my interest a whole lot better.

I'd be a lot more excited watching or hearing about a marathon with 5 lead
changes in the last mile than I would about a woman running 2:19.  They are
both great "races" however.  I certainly don't feel the need to place a
value judgement on which is "better".

But that's me - I've been called weird before.

- Ed Parrot




Re: t-and-f: Naoko Takahashi interview after Berlin

2001-09-30 Thread Doug Fry

Since there is no world record at stake, I don't think there is any issue
with the result.

What interested me more, was her training distances.

There are a lot of mixed races, in which women can be paced by men and vice
versa.
We also see the Golden League and other Grand Prix events on the track,
where there are more than one pacemaker, and we don't even blink an eye at
the practice.

The only worry I have with track pacemaking is that it's often unknown to
the track spectators.
If it's good enough for TV commentators to know that a pacemaker is in a
race with certain instructions, then the paying spectators should also be
told by ground announcers.


FWIW
***

> What is the significance of first sub 2:20?
>
> I think the list will comment on the use of pacers and guards. Is such use
> really racing?  Or do we see the sub 2:20 as an interesting time trial and
> Takahashi's Olympic victory as a "real" race.
> Those are my unguarded remarks.

We view the sub-2:20 as what it is - the fastest time ever by a woman.  A
great accomplishment.  Should we keep separate lists for mixed gender races,
women's only races, and maybe even semi-women's only races like London?
Sure, if people will read them.  I'd look at them and move on to reading the
results of competitions, where margins of victory, notable names, and race
reports keep my interest a whole lot better.

I'd be a lot more excited watching or hearing about a marathon with 5 lead
changes in the last mile than I would about a woman running 2:19.  They are
both great "races" however.  I certainly don't feel the need to place a
value judgement on which is "better".

But that's me - I've been called weird before.

- Ed Parrot


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