Re: t-and-f: Rating track movies

2001-12-21 Thread goldbu1

ED,
I fully agree with you about Olympia (you are refreeing to Lennie Riefenstal's 
movie, aren't you?) even though the very fact of being Jewish sends a chill 
through my spine thinking when, where and by whom it was produced.

Uri Goldbourt


Quoting Ed Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Netters:
 Ed Koch's list of track films had a few omissions, one of them
 being
 The Human Comedy. where Mickey Rooney was a HS hurdler (if you can
 figure
 that one out---at least it was the low hurdles). It came out toward the
 end
 of WW II the scropt was by William Saroyan and it had a first class
 cast.
 Propabably rated about 3 stars.
 
 Can't believe the 3-star rating Maltin gave Personal Best, a
 piece
 of junk if ever there was one.
 
 I would rate the Geb movie over the one Pre movie I saw (can't
 remember by title, but it was the one with Donald Sutherland as
 Bowerman).
 It was unpretentious and as real as any movie about our sport can get,
 
 IMHO, Olympia stands by itself, the greatest sports
 documentary of
 all time, as well as a reflection, sometimes unintnded, of an Olympics
 whose
 histoiral setting will never be matched.
 
 Ed Grant.
 



Re: t-and-f: Rating track movies

2001-12-20 Thread Randall Northam

Can't remember what the movie was called but it featured Kenny Moore in the
nude! 
Of course the script demenaded it... there could not have been any other
reason.
Randall Northam




Re: t-and-f: Rating track movies

2001-12-20 Thread Martin J. Dixon

It was Personal Best which, as stated previously, didn't deserve 3 stars
Regards,


Martin



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 Can't remember what the movie was called but it featured Kenny Moore in
the
 nude!
 Of course the script demenaded it... there could not have been any other
 reason.
 Randall Northam




Re: t-and-f: Rating track movies

2001-12-20 Thread Edward Koch

The second  Pre movie is Without Limits which is on the list.

Ed Koch


-Original Message-
From: Ed Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: track net [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Thursday, December 20, 2001 12:05 PM
Subject: t-and-f: Rating track movies


Netters:
Ed Koch's list of track films had a few omissions, one of them
being
The Human Comedy. where Mickey Rooney was a HS hurdler (if you can figure
that one out---at least it was the low hurdles). It came out toward the end
of WW II the scropt was by William Saroyan and it had a first class cast.
Propabably rated about 3 stars.

Can't believe the 3-star rating Maltin gave Personal Best, a
piece
of junk if ever there was one.

I would rate the Geb movie over the one Pre movie I saw (can't
remember by title, but it was the one with Donald Sutherland as Bowerman).
It was unpretentious and as real as any movie about our sport can get,

IMHO, Olympia stands by itself, the greatest sports documentary
of
all time, as well as a reflection, sometimes unintnded, of an Olympics
whose
histoiral setting will never be matched.

Ed Grant.





Re: t-and-f: Rating track movies

2001-12-20 Thread Randall Northam

on 20/12/01 14:52, Tom Derderian at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What was he doing while he was nude? Or what was Marial Hemingway doing to
 him?  Tell the list. I dare you.
 Tom
I truly don't remember. The movie was so bad I was half asleep but then the
sight of a valued member of the press corp as well as an outstanding runner
in the buff was such a shock I can't remember. What's worse is that I can't
remember if Ms Hemmingway was in the altogether as well.
Randall Northam




Re: t-and-f: Rating track movies

2001-12-20 Thread GHTFNedit

In a message dated Thu, 20 Dec 2001  2:04:08 PM Eastern Standard Time, Randall Northam 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Can't remember what the movie was called but it featured Kenny Moore in the nude! 
 Of course the script demenaded it... there could not have been any other reason.

Ahh, but one of the scenes led to one of the best lines in track history (not that it 
ever got any public play). That's the scene where Kenny is taking a whiz (can't recall 
if he's nude or not) and Mariel Hemingway comes up behind him, puts her arms around 
his waste and takes care of the mechanics.

The next spring, at the Stanford Invitational, Daley Thompson was in town (this was in 
the days when he trained in SoCal in March and April) and the first thing he said--not 
exactly sotto voce--when their paths crossed was, Hey, Kenny! Loved the movie; big 
role, small part.

gh




Re: t-and-f: Rating track movies

2001-12-20 Thread Martin J. Dixon

Muriel Hemingway was in actual fact doing it to Patrice Donnelly.
Regards,


Martin



- Original Message -
From: Randall Northam [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Tom Derderian [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Thursday, December 20, 2001 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: t-and-f: Rating track movies


 on 20/12/01 14:52, Tom Derderian at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  What was he doing while he was nude? Or what was Marial Hemingway doing
to
  him?  Tell the list. I dare you.
  Tom
 I truly don't remember. The movie was so bad I was half asleep but then
the
 sight of a valued member of the press corp as well as an outstanding
runner
 in the buff was such a shock I can't remember. What's worse is that I
can't
 remember if Ms Hemmingway was in the altogether as well.
 Randall Northam