Re: t-and-f: Scientific Facts for Suzy

2000-10-06 Thread John Lunn

It is most interesting that there are types of "facts". Here we have" scientific"
facts, others talk about " true" facts, and we have the ever present "known" fact.
Is there a difference between these types of facts?
I thought that science is a proceedure that one uses to reach a conclusion, but
that the conclusion is not fact.Certainly the "facts" that I grew up with are not
"facts" today.
The fact is   I love to watch Suzy run.
John Lunn

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 This was passed on to me from Coach Jim Hunt, All American Long Distance
 Running Coach --

 From "Dr. Hunt!"  Bill, you asked for it.  Suzy Favor Hamilton collapsed in
 the finals of the Olympic 1500 due to complete glycogen depletion.
 Suzy does not possess the basic speed that some of the other competitors
 possess.  In order to run as fast as she was attempting to do, she had to run
 at a
 velocity that was too high of a percentage of her basic performance speed for
 too long.  The glycogen demanded by her muscles to do the work that the brain
 was commanding of them was completely depleted.
 As to the dehydration effect, it takes 4 lb. of water to produce 1 lb. of
 glycogen.  Oxygen must mix with glycogen in order to produce energy.
 Glycogen is stored in the liver, muscle cells and blood stream and must
 receive oxygen in the amount
 demanded by the working muscles to continue to work at a desired level.
 When stored glycogen is depleted, the body will attempt to make more.  The
 process of making glycogen requires a large quantity of water which would
 lead to further dehydration.
 In addition to the depletion of fluid, her body could not deliver
 sufficient oxygen to produce the muscular contractions that her central
 nervous system was commanding.  Suzy could not extract enough oxygen from the
 air and deliver it to the working muscles in the amount necessary to be able
 to continue with the high rate of velocity that she needed to run.
 In Suzy's attempt to run for 4:00 at a velocity of 6.25 meters per
 second, complicated by the lack of body fluids, her heart rate soared to a
 new maximum causing her body temperature to rise to possibly as high as 105
 degrees-106 degrees.  Her body's cooling system was not prepared to dissipate
 this much heat.  This high temperature coupled with the panic of seeing her
 competitors fly by her caused her body to go into traumatic shock.  Traumatic
 shock causes the large arteries to expand, literally robbing the working
 muscles and the brain of oxygen carrying blood.
 When traumatic shock occurs, the mechanisms causes the body to go into a
 prone position in an attempt to restore oxygen to the brain.  Once in a prone
 position, enough oxygen returned to her brain for her to muster the energy to
 stand up.
 Her tremendous desire to win had programmed her body to move forward to
 the finish line.  When Suzy reached the finish line the energy again was
 completely depleted.
 At this point, her body's protective mechanisms caused her to collapse
 again into a prone position.  After several minutes of intravenous fluids,
 electrolyte restoration she was able to quietly leave through the back door
 without any further assistance.
 This traumatic experience will most likely make it extremely difficult
 for Suzy
 to ever push her body hard enough again to get close to world record time.
 Her central nervous system will never forget the torture that her body went
 through and the protective organisms of her body will resist any attempt to
 duplicate this act in the future.
 Alberto Salazar was an exceptionally determined athlete who could
 withstand severe pain for long periods of time.  He was able to force his
 body to work to near death in two separate marathons before his body said "no
 more, Al."
 Good luck Suzy.  We all appreciate what you have done for track and field.

 "makes sense to me!"

 Bill "maddog" Scobey




t-and-f: Scientific Facts for Suzy

2000-10-05 Thread MaggieMaePup

This was passed on to me from Coach Jim Hunt, All American Long Distance 
Running Coach --


From "Dr. Hunt!"  Bill, you asked for it.  Suzy Favor Hamilton collapsed in 
the finals of the Olympic 1500 due to complete glycogen depletion.  
Suzy does not possess the basic speed that some of the other competitors 
possess.  In order to run as fast as she was attempting to do, she had to run 
at a
velocity that was too high of a percentage of her basic performance speed for 
too long.  The glycogen demanded by her muscles to do the work that the brain 
was commanding of them was completely depleted.  
As to the dehydration effect, it takes 4 lb. of water to produce 1 lb. of 
glycogen.  Oxygen must mix with glycogen in order to produce energy.  
Glycogen is stored in the liver, muscle cells and blood stream and must 
receive oxygen in the amount
demanded by the working muscles to continue to work at a desired level.
When stored glycogen is depleted, the body will attempt to make more.  The
process of making glycogen requires a large quantity of water which would 
lead to further dehydration.  
In addition to the depletion of fluid, her body could not deliver 
sufficient oxygen to produce the muscular contractions that her central 
nervous system was commanding.  Suzy could not extract enough oxygen from the 
air and deliver it to the working muscles in the amount necessary to be able 
to continue with the high rate of velocity that she needed to run.  
In Suzy's attempt to run for 4:00 at a velocity of 6.25 meters per 
second, complicated by the lack of body fluids, her heart rate soared to a 
new maximum causing her body temperature to rise to possibly as high as 105 
degrees-106 degrees.  Her body's cooling system was not prepared to dissipate 
this much heat.  This high temperature coupled with the panic of seeing her 
competitors fly by her caused her body to go into traumatic shock.  Traumatic 
shock causes the large arteries to expand, literally robbing the working 
muscles and the brain of oxygen carrying blood.  
When traumatic shock occurs, the mechanisms causes the body to go into a 
prone position in an attempt to restore oxygen to the brain.  Once in a prone 
position, enough oxygen returned to her brain for her to muster the energy to 
stand up.  
Her tremendous desire to win had programmed her body to move forward to 
the finish line.  When Suzy reached the finish line the energy again was 
completely depleted. 
At this point, her body's protective mechanisms caused her to collapse 
again into a prone position.  After several minutes of intravenous fluids, 
electrolyte restoration she was able to quietly leave through the back door 
without any further assistance.  
This traumatic experience will most likely make it extremely difficult 
for Suzy
to ever push her body hard enough again to get close to world record time.  
Her central nervous system will never forget the torture that her body went 
through and the protective organisms of her body will resist any attempt to 
duplicate this act in the future.  
Alberto Salazar was an exceptionally determined athlete who could 
withstand severe pain for long periods of time.  He was able to force his 
body to work to near death in two separate marathons before his body said "no 
more, Al."  
Good luck Suzy.  We all appreciate what you have done for track and field.

"makes sense to me!"

Bill "maddog" Scobey



Re: t-and-f: Scientific Facts for Suzy

2000-10-05 Thread Mpplatt

In a message dated 10/5/00 8:56:38 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 This was passed on to me from Coach Jim Hunt, All American Long Distance 
  Running Coach --
  
  
  From "Dr. Hunt!"  Bill, you asked for it.  Suzy Favor Hamilton collapsed 
in 
  the finals of the Olympic 1500 due to complete glycogen depletion.  
  Suzy does not possess the basic speed that some of the other 
competitors 
 
  possess.  In order to run as fast as she was attempting to do, she had to 
 run 
  at a
  velocity that was too high of a percentage of her basic performance speed 
 for 
  too long.  The glycogen demanded by her muscles to do the work that the 
 brain 
  was commanding of them was completely depleted.  
  As to the dehydration effect, it takes 4 lb. of water to produce 1 lb. 
 of 
  glycogen.  Oxygen must mix with glycogen in order to produce energy.  
  Glycogen is stored in the liver, muscle cells and blood stream and must 
  receive oxygen in the amount
  demanded by the working muscles to continue to work at a desired level.
  When stored glycogen is depleted, the body will attempt to make more.  
 The
  process of making glycogen requires a large quantity of water which would 
  lead to further dehydration.  
  In addition to the depletion of fluid, her body could not deliver 
  sufficient oxygen to produce the muscular contractions that her central 
  nervous system was commanding.  Suzy could not extract enough oxygen from 
 the 
  air and deliver it to the working muscles in the amount necessary to be 
able 
 
  to continue with the high rate of velocity that she needed to run.  
  In Suzy's attempt to run for 4:00 at a velocity of 6.25 meters per 
  second, complicated by the lack of body fluids, her heart rate soared to a 
  new maximum causing her body temperature to rise to possibly as high as 
105 
  degrees-106 degrees.  Her body's cooling system was not prepared to 
 dissipate 
  this much heat.  This high temperature coupled with the panic of seeing 
her 
  competitors fly by her caused her body to go into traumatic shock.  
 Traumatic 
  shock causes the large arteries to expand, literally robbing the working 
  muscles and the brain of oxygen carrying blood.  
  When traumatic shock occurs, the mechanisms causes the body to go into 
a 
 
  prone position in an attempt to restore oxygen to the brain.  Once in a 
 prone 
  position, enough oxygen returned to her brain for her to muster the energy 
 to 
  stand up.  
  Her tremendous desire to win had programmed her body to move forward 
to 
  the finish line.  When Suzy reached the finish line the energy again was 
  completely depleted. 
  At this point, her body's protective mechanisms caused her to collapse 
  again into a prone position.  After several minutes of intravenous fluids, 
  electrolyte restoration she was able to quietly leave through the back 
door 
  without any further assistance.  
  This traumatic experience will most likely make it extremely difficult 
  for Suzy
  to ever push her body hard enough again to get close to world record time. 
 
  Her central nervous system will never forget the torture that her body 
went 
  through and the protective organisms of her body will resist any attempt 
to 
  duplicate this act in the future.  
  Alberto Salazar was an exceptionally determined athlete who could 
  withstand severe pain for long periods of time.  He was able to force his 
  body to work to near death in two separate marathons before his body said "
 no 
  more, Al."  
  Good luck Suzy.  We all appreciate what you have done for track and 
 field.
  
  "makes sense to me!"
  
  Bill "maddog" Scobey

Good gosh, there is no shame in losing a race. Why all the explanations and 
double talk. Fancy explanations will only tarnish her image. She got passed, 
threw in the towel, and went down.  

Mike Platt