Re: t-and-f: The Real Virtual Rabbits

2002-01-14 Thread David Dallman

  I don't like rabbits much (the human kind, that is). One reason I would
tolerate them is to prevent races developing into a jog and sprint like
the 1 km cycle races. But in this case the rabbit has to be prepared to
run on and win if necessary (remeber Tom Byers). Having seen a rabbit pull
out at 1200 metres in a women's 1500 metres a couple of years ago, I
wonder if this is always the case. To run a fast time, you don't need
rabbits, just a belief in yourself and the concentration to run at the
required pace.
 David Dallman


On Fri, 11 Jan 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 
 I would like to see a real virtual rabbit.  Something like the fake rabbit they
 use at dog tracks, but made for runners, speed skaters, swimmers, etc.  Maybe an
 electronic eye (or light) that could be set at any speed - NCAA standard,
 Olympic standard, world record, whatever.  It could be built into the inside
 rail of the track and set to lead you by 5  meters so you could glance down to
 see where you where in relation to the time.
 
 I would have loved this when I was competing.  I was always looking to get a
 mark and trying to find a competitive race or a race with a rabbit (the human
 kind).  The virtual rabbit could also help the human rabbits keep pace.  How
 many times do we see rabbits going out too fast or too slow.  Then when the
 human rabbits drop out you would still know where you were.  It might be the
 thing that could take record setting to the next level.
 
 
 Bob Henes
 
 
 

David Dallman
CERN - SIS





Re: t-and-f: The Real Virtual Rabbits

2002-01-13 Thread Steve Isham

Very true on the effect of watching the WR rabbits pull away in most every 
race.  How about multiple (and applicable) rabbits: one at WR pace, 
national record, meet record, NCAA record, or HS record, etc.  Perhaps the 
different rabbits could be color-coded to denote their difference.  As much 
as I'd like to see this, I doubt it will ever be implemented.  This belief 
comes from in most telecasts of distance races, we are lucky to see 10% of 
the race and technology of this scale would likely be limited to the big, 
televised meets.  Also, what about some yahoo who incorrectly programs a 
pace?  Oops!  Wouldn't that be a hoot to see.

Steve


From: david lesley [EMAIL PROTECTED]

The old professional track circuit in the early 70's had exactly this. They
set it at world record pace, and it was very discouraging to see it pull
way, way ahead of the runners.


David Lesley


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t-and-f: The Real Virtual Rabbits

2002-01-11 Thread robert . j . henes



I would like to see a real virtual rabbit.  Something like the fake rabbit they
use at dog tracks, but made for runners, speed skaters, swimmers, etc.  Maybe an
electronic eye (or light) that could be set at any speed - NCAA standard,
Olympic standard, world record, whatever.  It could be built into the inside
rail of the track and set to lead you by 5  meters so you could glance down to
see where you where in relation to the time.

I would have loved this when I was competing.  I was always looking to get a
mark and trying to find a competitive race or a race with a rabbit (the human
kind).  The virtual rabbit could also help the human rabbits keep pace.  How
many times do we see rabbits going out too fast or too slow.  Then when the
human rabbits drop out you would still know where you were.  It might be the
thing that could take record setting to the next level.


Bob Henes





Re: t-and-f: The Real Virtual Rabbits

2002-01-11 Thread James Dunaway



List:

Here goes the pacer lights thread again. third time in 5 years...

jim dunaway

At 03:46 PM 1/11/02 -0500, you wrote:


I would like to see a real virtual rabbit.  Something like the fake rabbit
they
use at dog tracks, but made for runners, speed skaters, swimmers, etc.
Maybe an
electronic eye (or light) that could be set at any speed - NCAA standard,
Olympic standard, world record, whatever.  It could be built into the inside
rail of the track and set to lead you by 5  meters so you could glance
down to
see where you where in relation to the time.

I would have loved this when I was competing.  I was always looking to get a
mark and trying to find a competitive race or a race with a rabbit (the human
kind).  The virtual rabbit could also help the human rabbits keep pace.  How
many times do we see rabbits going out too fast or too slow.  Then when the
human rabbits drop out you would still know where you were.  It might be the
thing that could take record setting to the next level.


Bob Henes






Re: t-and-f: The Real Virtual Rabbits

2002-01-11 Thread Tom Derderian



Subject: Re: t-and-f: The Real Virtual Rabbits


 The old professional track circuit in the early 70's had exactly this.
They
 set it at world record pace, and it was very discouraging to see it pull
 way, way ahead of the runners.

and soon they needed virtual spectators.
Tom D